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#1 2008-11-30 17:11:10

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cool update to the lastest xorg :p

today read that Xorg 7.4 moves to extra, and update, after that finally can use opengl with kwin, before can only use xrender and can watch videos at fullscreen without problems and the effects looks really nice now tongue

and dont understend hotplug so disable with the help of the wiki.

only one thing about the update: libdrm looks like still is in testing and have to compile from abs, the same about xproto.

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#2 2008-11-30 17:22:12

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

Since this update I cannot use keytouch as always, that is, my keys are not working sad
I am googling about that right now...


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#3 2008-11-30 17:26:26

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

you can disable hotplug, just read the wiki.

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#4 2008-11-30 17:38:17

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

Now to get catalyst working with it. Currently, X won't even start.

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#5 2008-11-30 17:49:55

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

Xorg fails to start with the RgbPath set. You should comment this in your xorg.conf:

Section "Files"
        # RgbPath         "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
EndSection

Also, for me, the keyboard is horribly broken. Arrow keys, delete key, etc. all don't work. Keyboard layouts as chosen in KDE via system settings do not work, either. hmm

Haha, the systray in KDE is broken, too. I have eight batteries. lol

Last edited by mutlu_inek (2008-11-30 17:52:11)

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#6 2008-11-30 17:58:04

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

mutlu_inek wrote:

Xorg fails to start with the RgbPath set. You should comment this in your xorg.conf:

Section "Files"
        # RgbPath         "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
EndSection

I've tried that, it just doesn't start. I'll make a thread.

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#7 2008-11-30 18:02:43

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

And for catalyst some time you need to remove /etc/ati/amdpcsdb and run aticonfig to recreate it. If you got some seg. faults on start for me removing Text.*Render and Text.*2D solved (I dont remember the options name)...

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#8 2008-11-30 18:05:45

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

mutlu_inek wrote:

Also, for me, the keyboard is horribly broken. Arrow keys, delete key, etc. all don't work. Keyboard layouts as chosen in KDE via system settings do not work, either. hmm

Actually, it was due to the KDE settings. You need to choose "Evdev-managed keyboard" as the keyboard model in the keyboard layout KCM.

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#9 2008-11-30 18:14:19

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

mutlu_inek wrote:

Haha, the systray in KDE is broken, too. I have eight batteries. lol

Ok, solved. Even better, now I don't have any systray artifacts any more. smile This concerns the intel driver.

I had to comment

Section "Device"
#       Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
EndSection

See http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170283

Edit:
Oh, nice! For me, for the first time xorg runs just as well without an xorg.conf. Including all the compositing bling. This just means less potential errors. smile

Edit2:
Any 3D on my intel is horribly broken since TTM is not supported and GEM will only be in the 2.6.28 kernel:

$ glxgears 
Failed to initialize TTM buffer manager.  Falling back to classic.
229 frames in 5.0 seconds = 45.673 FPS

2D compositing works fine, though.

Last edited by mutlu_inek (2008-11-30 19:18:15)

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#10 2008-11-30 19:17:06

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

Cypher wrote:

you can disable hotplug, just read the wiki.

It works now, but is there any way to get keytouch working again with hotplug?


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#11 2008-11-30 19:24:27

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

After that xorg update, I had to remove xorg.conf, because it didin't work at all. I managed to get it work after command: "Xorg -configure", but I lost my keyboard layout totally. I edited layout options for xorg.conf, but it didin't solve the problem.

After editing GNOME layout-settings, I managed to get it work better, but it still won't work properly: ä's (a with dots, if can't see) don't work. tongue

Last edited by Eboy (2008-11-30 19:25:09)

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#12 2008-11-30 19:32:15

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

Eboy wrote:

I edited layout options for xorg.conf, but it didin't solve the problem.

Did you read: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … otplugging ?

If you want to set the keyboard in Gnome, this may help you: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=59931

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#13 2008-11-30 19:35:12

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

BinkyTheClown wrote:

It works now, but is there any way to get keytouch working again with hotplug?

Yes, there is. You must:

1. remove or comment all input device configuration in xorg.conf
2. configure hal so that it can inform X correctly. This is the though part. For my case (abnt2 keyboard, Brasil), i used the following files:

-- /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi -- don't include this line

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- -->
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>
    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keymap">
      <append key="info.callouts.add" type="strlist">hal-setup-keymap</append>
    </match>

    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys">
      <merge key="input.xkb.rules" type="string">base</merge>

      <!-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to
           keyboard otherwise). -->
      <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">keyboard</merge>
      <match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name"
             string="Linux">
        <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">evdev</merge>
      </match>

      <merge key="input.xkb.layout" type="string">br</merge>
      <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">abnt2</merge>
    </match>
  </device>
</deviceinfo>

-- end of file --

You must configure your keyboard correctly. Your current xorg.conf will be the right reference for you.

For the synaptics touchpad:

-- /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi --

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>
    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.touchpad">
      <match key="info.product" contains="Synaptics TouchPad">
        <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">synaptics</merge>
    <!-- Arbitrary options can be passed to the driver using
         the input.x11_options property since xorg-server-1.5. -->
    <!-- EXAMPLE:
    -->
        <merge key="input.x11_options.AlwaysCore" type="string">true</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.Protocol" type="string">auto-dev</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.Emulate3Buttons" type="string">true</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.SHMConfig" type="string">false</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.LeftEdge" type="string">1700</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.RightEdge" type="string">5300</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.TopEdge" type="string">1700</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.BottomEdge" type="string">4200</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.FingerLow" type="string">25</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.FingerHigh" type="string">30</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.MaxTapTime" type="string">180</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.VertEdgeScroll" type="string">true</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.HorizEdgeScroll" type="string">true</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.CornerCoasting" type="string">true</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.CoastingSpeed" type="string">0.30</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.VertScrollDelta" type="string">100</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.HorizScrollDelta" type="string">100</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.MinSpeed" type="string">0.10</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.MaxSpeed" type="string">0.60</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.AccelFactor" type="string">0.0020</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.VertTwoFingerScroll" type="string">true</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.HorizTwoFingerScroll" type="string">true</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton1" type="string">1</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton2" type="string">2</merge>
        <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton3" type="string">3</merge>
      </match>
      <match key="info.product" contains="AlpsPS/2 ALPS">
      </match>
      <match key="info.product" contains="appletouch">
      </match>
      <match key="info.product" contains="bcm5974">
      </match>
    </match>
  </device>
</deviceinfo>

-- end of file --

3. Restart hal
4. Restart X

Everything should be working. Hope that helps.


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#14 2008-11-30 20:47:52

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

I did the steps above -edited /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi file, restarted hal and X- but the problem persists. My multimedia stop key acts like if it was the volume down key, and so :'(

My keyboard is an English one.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- -->
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>
    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keymap">
      <append key="info.callouts.add" type="strlist">hal-setup-keymap</append>
    </match>
    
    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys">
      <merge key="input.xkb.rules" type="string">base</merge>
      
      <!-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to
           keyboard otherwise). -->
      <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">keyboard</merge>
      <match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name"
             string="Linux">
        <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">evdev</merge>
      </match>
      
      <merge key="input.xkb.layout" type="string">us</merge>
        <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">pc105</merge>
    </match>
  </device>
</deviceinfo>

Last edited by BinkyTheClown (2008-11-30 21:53:52)


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#15 2008-11-30 21:02:44

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

BinkyTheClown wrote:

Since this update I cannot use keytouch as always, that is, my keys are not working sad
I am googling about that right now...

That happened to me however, X started to recognized my functions keys as actual keys! Run xev and see if a keycode appears when you hit one of your function keys (Fn + F10 or w/e)


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#16 2008-11-30 21:10:32

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

pyther wrote:
BinkyTheClown wrote:

Since this update I cannot use keytouch as always, that is, my keys are not working sad
I am googling about that right now...

That happened to me however, X started to recognized my functions keys as actual keys! Run xev and see if a keycode appears when you hit one of your function keys (Fn + F10 or w/e)

xev reports a keycode smile Thanks for the idea.


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#17 2008-11-30 21:12:36

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

No problem wink


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#18 2008-11-30 22:27:11

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

Had no problem at all. Just read the messages when you use pacman, for example stuff like this:

[2008-11-25 21:43]   Input device handling has changed in xorg-server 1.5.
[2008-11-25 21:43]   Please read http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging.

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#19 2008-11-30 22:33:53

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

Well, I am using xbindkeys for the moment, but I miss the nice keytouch's OSD when changing volume sad


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#20 2008-11-30 22:35:17

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

I wont be updating until i resolve the driver issues, nvidia-71xx isn't supported by the new xorg, so I'm SOL without using the open source drivers or vesa.

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#21 2008-11-30 23:42:07

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

Guys, how about configs usb mouse?

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#22 2008-12-01 00:21:00

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

sashko wrote:

Guys, how about configs usb mouse?

Plug it in. tongue

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#23 2008-12-01 00:24:06

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

sashko wrote:

Guys, how about configs usb mouse?

Well I'm using hotplugging and my xorg section looks like this:

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier   "Mouse0"
    Driver       "evdev"
    Option  "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Does anyone know if that is even needed?


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#24 2008-12-01 00:25:58

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

pyther wrote:

Does anyone know if that is even needed?

It is not needed. Moreover, you can probably even run X without xorg.conf... but don't just delete it. tongue

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#25 2008-12-01 01:13:11

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Re: cool update to the lastest xorg :p

pyther, thank you!

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