I could just as well edit the .xfce4 files to do the same as I did in 4.0.
But, after compiling the CVS version from their website, I really didn't notice too many differences (worth the upgrade, IMHO). The most noticeable were:
1. More GUI settings for all desktop features, like "resolution", "screensaver", "hinting" and "anti-aliasing", and some others. However, I can do the same currently with config files.
2. Gradient support for screen backdrop. Pretty nice.
3. Better Session Management support.
4. Automatically picks up Gnome/KDE apps and configures in Desktop menu.
5. Icons in Desktop Menu.
* Overall, the CVS version they have out currently is pretty nice, but I went back to 4.0. I think I'll wait til they release it and AL'ers make a package for it.
Oh yeah, in addition...the 4.2 version has a buggy "xffm" in my opinion. You will even get an error compiling it and you have to downgrade to avoid your console filling up with debug messages. The version they recommend currently seems to give me a "signal 11" as well. I guess that's what you can expect from CVS versions.
]]>On to the replacements though. I really recommend rox. I know it's spacial, but I've gotten used to it, and it really is pretty nice to use. Very fast and snappy as well. Don't think it's ever crashed on me.
Give it a try, it's in pacman repository.
Later,
Isamoor
]]>Yeah, XFCE 4.2 looks so amazing, cant wait for it. My biggest gripe was always the fact that the File Manager was so crappy in my opinion but that appears to be getting an over-haul... a file manager like Nautilus is all I ask and ill use XFCE in a heartbeat, Gnome feels clunky a lot but it seems to be the best right now.
Yea that's what I'm sayin... does anyone know of a decent GTK/GTK2 file manager that is similar to windows explorer? I use XFCE4 but the file manager just flat out blows.
I heard something about xfe, it seems like what we might be looking for. But I don't think I could get it to compile last time I tried. It uses FOX gui toolkit and something was going on with fox and xfe not wanting to compile.
]]>In my case are k3b and nautilus the apps I need from them, so I have to load both kde and gnome libraries. It's shit.
yes, i stoped using nautilus exactly because of this; but unfortunately i use other gnome stuff, so i load both too (out of fluxbox - or lately now more and more xfce4)
]]>dp wrote:kakabaratruskia wrote:XFCE is the linux desktop that does things right. I think kde, and especially gnome, are going the wrong way.
what do you mean by "wrong"?
i for example like to use konqueror also from fluxbox or xfce4, but booting the whole kde is very rare, as this huge thing has really momentum :-)
Both of them, KDE and GNOME, have lot's of bugs (gnome specially, crashes a lot) and I hate that they have their own three terabyte library, cause it makes them eat a lot of RAM, especially when you mix apps.
that's extremly true - but some of the apps are very usefull - so if there is enough harddisk space to install them, you can use fluxbox or xfce4 or something else that is light and run out if it e.g. konqueror or some other nice part of kde/gnome
i agree with you fully that starting a fully featured kde or gnome is
1) using too much ram
2) takes long
3) is in most cases not needed
4) kde and both need cleanup
kakabaratruskia wrote:XFCE is the linux desktop that does things right. I think kde, and especially gnome, are going the wrong way.
what do you mean by "wrong"?
i for example like to use konqueror also from fluxbox or xfce4, but booting the whole kde is very rare, as this huge thing has really momentum :-)
Both of them, KDE and GNOME, have lot's of bugs (gnome specially, crashes a lot) and I hate that they have their own three terabyte library, cause it makes them eat a lot of RAM, especially when you mix apps.
]]>I meant the pics in your sigg dp.
the actual avatar shows a Parus major (de: Kohlmeise, en: Great Tit, fr:Mésange charbonnière)
the last signature
was a Xylocopa violacea (de: Holzbiene, en: Carpenter Bee, fr:l'Abeille charpentière) in flight
Konqi also got problems with "position:fixed" but that is maybe the heaviest feature there is on the market.;)
yes, that's true - also Safari or some Mozillas have big trouble with this (IE i do not compare, as they do not even try to respect w3 standards)
Sweden plays against Bulgaria on monday, heja Sverigeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Go Sweden!
Edit: Maybe an explanation of your new sigg would be helpful.;) in max three sentences.:)M.L Gore wrote:Words are very unnecessary
they can only do harm
yea, good luck on monday - "heja Sverige" - as we need good oponents for the final :-)
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