I'm the hoelzro from the identica discussion (wow, it's been over four years since I last logged in). I'm still interested in assembling a team to work on this, and I think this forum would be a more effective place to do so. Is anyone still interested in helping?
-Rob
]]>@Spyhawk: Thanks, I'll give pacaur a try.
]]>I had switched from yaourt to clyde, and the better performance was not the only thing I quickly came to love about clyde...
Another important thing (to me) is that it's much less annoying than yaourt used to be.
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So, my question is... is yaourt still like that, or has it changed in that regard too?
I'd say that I fully agree with you, all you said were the reasons why I really prefered clyde over yaourt. Unfortunately, yaourt hasn't become "less annoying" to use over time (it personally gives me headache), but yes, yaourt was designed many years ago and many others aur helper have been designed since then, although yaourt is still widely used in the French community where it originated from. But afaik, no other aur helper is as feature rich as yaourt/clyde. You only have to ask yourself if you really need those features, or if they are just extra bloat.
If not, which of the other AUR helpers (preferably with pacman-syntax so I don't have to re-learn, and preferably with nice colorful output like clyde) are less annoying?
I might be *very* biased here, but pacaur was designed specially is this regard: fast workflow, uncluttered interface.
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Damn, so much hate! I agree with most of the things you are writing but I think that you are very hard against an application (and it´s developer) from at least 2006, how many AUR wrapper did we have then? Maybe we should be grateful and just move on?
And, you can use alias if the syntax is to annoying.
]]>If you really like Clyde interface, you might have a look at yaourt. Clyde originally started as a replacement for yaourt due to its poor performance, but yaourt gained lot of speed since it switched to a C backend.
I had switched from yaourt to clyde, and the better performance was not the only thing I quickly came to love about clyde...
Another important thing (to me) is that it's much less annoying than yaourt used to be.
In yaourt, the number of "Yes/No [ENTER]" prompts I had to answer for every single AUR package I wanted to install was simply ridiculous. And to make it even trickier, they made it so that you had to answer "Y [ENTER]" to some and "N [ENTER]" to other questions in order to continue with the installation.
I clyde, after clyde -S packagename I only have to press "y" twice (don't even have to press ENTER), and then (after having looked over the packagebuild contents) "[CTRL]+X" to close the editor, and then no more interruptions.
Also, I really hated yaourt's behavior of not installing the package I explicitly requested on the command line, but instead showing me a list of all packages that contain this string and forcing me to enter the number for the package I intended. Not only because this amounted to additional keyboard input, but also because sometimes, the intended package (which matched the package name I entered 100%) was buried between many dozens of other, partly-matching "search results" which made it a hassle to even find it.
So, my question is... is yaourt still like that, or has it changed in that regard too?
If not, which of the other AUR helpers (preferably with pacman-syntax so I don't have to re-learn, and preferably with nice colorful output like clyde) are less annoying?
]]>I can vouch for cower as a great option, aurget also works well (is pretty simple as well), and paktahn is a great option as well. Paktahn is written in lisp which scares some people, but its been around a while and still works well.
Id say it depends on what aspect of clyde you like as to what choice you might make. Cower and Aurget are more simple, while Paktahn is more of a yaourt replacement.
Personally I use Cower at times and Paktahn at times- that is, once I started having Clyde issues.
Sad to see the project go (unless someone grabs the torch)- thanks so much for your work on this project.
]]>Do you need lot of features? Try yaourt (the most similar to clyde I believe)
Do you need a minimalist aur helper? Try cower, powaur.
Do you need an aur helper with minimal dependencies? Try packer, aurget, cower, powaur, pbfetch.
Do you need a fast workflow? Try pacaur
Do you need an aur helper that do not duplicate pacman command? Try packer, aurget.
Do you need full customizepkg support? Try yaourt, aurget.
And if you don't find an aur helper that perfectly meets your needs, try coding one
Also, I wouldn't have posted this here if clyde was still in active development, but now that clyde is on hold and since a user recently asked for other fast aur client recommendations, then I thought that it was allright...
]]>Clyde is stated to be very fast, and it should as it's using C and lua, but in my quick tests, where I just now installed clyde-git and ran 'time clyde -Ss musca' and then 'time packer -Ss musca', then here's the result: (packer is just bash with curl and standard utils):
clyde -Ss musca >> time.txt 0.47s user 0.04s system 21% cpu 2.326 total packer -Ss musca >> time.txt 0.40s user 0.01s system 19% cpu 2.061 total
Maybe because clyde gives you nice colors and shows how many votes each package has.
]]>clyde -Ss musca >> time.txt 0.47s user 0.04s system 21% cpu 2.326 total
packer -Ss musca >> time.txt 0.40s user 0.01s system 19% cpu 2.061 total
From previous tests I did a couple of weeks ago, then I know that aurget is on par with packer, and yaourt is about 40% quicker, and the same with pacaur and powaur, as they either use C backends(yaourt=package-query, and pacaur=cower) or are in C(powaur)...
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if I knew how to code better, I would do it...
maybe we could start a fund as incentive for someone to continue developement?
does anyone have any suggestions for an AUR helper that is as fast and pretty as clyde? (if no one takes up the gauntlet)
If you really like Clyde interface, you might have a look at yaourt. Clyde originally started as a replacement for yaourt due to its poor performance, but yaourt gained lot of speed since it switched to a C backend.
Anyway, sad to see Clyde going... I honestly hope someone will take care of it, I have used it myself for a very long time.
@pogeymanz, SanskritFritz> pacaur, what is that?
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