I've been having this problem:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=142481
hope you guys can help, thanks in advance!
]]>Why don't we start a Trinity 3.5.13 installation and setup topic.
Started: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1057721
I've been sick or I would have installed it on my system by now.
When I do install it, I plan on taking massive notes and would post them if you thought it would be worth while.
Of course it would be from the point of view of a Arch newbie doing a first time install of both Arch and Trinity
Keith
Ok, why not? Post them in the new topic I created. Maybe they will help even my with maintaining of the pkgbuilds?
]]>I've been sick or I would have installed it on my system by now.
When I do install it, I plan on taking massive notes and would post them if you thought it would be worth while.
Of course it would be from the point of view of a Arch newbie doing a first time install of both Arch and Trinity
Keith
]]>l0ner wrote:Yet I have 3 different installations of trinity, 1 on my laptop, 2 on virtual machines. On virtual machines trinity was installed from scratch, on a fresh arch install, pulling only dependencies required by trinity, and this did not happened to me.
Anyway, why are you linking to /opt/kde3 when trinity (at least form the latest PKGBUILDS) is installed to /opt/trinity ?
I assume you are trying this on trinity, and not on kdemod3?No this is on kdemod3, with packages pulled from http://vgafib.upc.es/kdemod3/$arch -- hmm. I just reread some of this thread, and it seems I may be out of date, eh?
Well, the thread is about kdemod3, so technically you are not really outdated. The best way to get everything staright would be either create new topic covering only problems with trinity, or state in every post about which wersion one is talking about.
Sorry about that; I'll try to switch to trinity and see if the pcre thing is true of the latest version.
Well, the pkgbuilds for trinity provide only the kdebase at the moment. I'm still working on the pkgbuilds for other things that come from kdegames, kdegraphics and so on... So if you need applications that come from those, I advise you not to update unless I've finished them. When I do so, I'll upload them to aur.
]]>Yet I have 3 different installations of trinity, 1 on my laptop, 2 on virtual machines. On virtual machines trinity was installed from scratch, on a fresh arch install, pulling only dependencies required by trinity, and this did not happened to me.
Anyway, why are you linking to /opt/kde3 when trinity (at least form the latest PKGBUILDS) is installed to /opt/trinity ?
I assume you are trying this on trinity, and not on kdemod3?
No this is on kdemod3, with packages pulled from http://vgafib.upc.es/kdemod3/$arch -- hmm. I just reread some of this thread, and it seems I may be out of date, eh?
Sorry about that; I'll try to switch to trinity and see if the pcre thing is true of the latest version.
I admit I haven't been reading every message in this thread; I was using that vgafib URL from before, and whenever something stops working for me I come here and skim for updated URL's. Last time I did that I think I saw this message: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 3#p1018333 and assumed that vgafib was still the most current URL.
Maybe the first post in this thread should be changed to a frequently-updated brief summary of "Here's what you do if you want KDE 3" -- and it'd be nice if it were stickied too, perhaps.
Or are we an unpopular bunch because the KDE 4 crowd thinks of us as counter-revolutionary reactionaries?
~Felix.
]]>Thanks l0ner
That was a fantastic job of answering all my questions.
Tomorrow I will do the pacman -Sy thing and then update to the most recent version of Arch.
After that i will check for libutempter and install it if it is not already installed. Hal is already installed and should not be a problem.
Then I will restart the kdebase install.
I would like to make a local repository in my external usb hard drive, that would contain everything needed to do a full install of Arch, Trinity and other programs. I don't need any details on how to do it right now but would you know if setting something up like that is difficult?
The reason I want to do this is so I can go to areas in Panama that do not have "high speed" internet but do have low speed internet and install the software on local computers there. Then the locals could use the 128 kb wireless links to get email, and do a little surfing of the web.
Thanks for the help
Keith
I don't know how difficult it is, since I never had necessity to do so.
Just did pacman -Syu again, and some more things are broken -- kwrite won't start and konqueror complains it can't find libpcre.so.0 when opening a new tab (but works otherwise).
Symlinking (ln -s /usr/lib/libpcre.so /opt/kde3/lib/libpcre.so.0) appears to fix both problems, so a temporary fix would be to just add that symlink to the packages.
Strange, but noted. When I find some time I'll try to reproduce this. Yet I have 3 different installations of trinity, 1 on my laptop, 2 on virtual machines. On virtual machines trinity was installed from scratch, on a fresh arch install, pulling only dependencies required by trinity, and this did not happened to me.
Anyway, why are you linking to /opt/kde3 when trinity (at least form the latest PKGBUILDS) is installed to /opt/trinity ?
I assume you are trying this on trinity, and not on kdemod3?
Symlinking (ln -s /usr/lib/libpcre.so /opt/kde3/lib/libpcre.so.0) appears to fix both problems, so a temporary fix would be to just add that symlink to the packages.
]]>In konqueror, when you double-click an icon, there is a brief "zooming" animation before it responds. The setting for this is in kcontrol (not konqueror), and it's not under any of the usual places you'd look for animations or effects settings. It's under Peripherals(?!) > Mouse > General > "Visual feedback on activation"
Now folders open instantly instead of having to wait for that stupid animation
]]>That was a fantastic job of answering all my questions.
Tomorrow I will do the pacman -Sy thing and then update to the most recent version of Arch.
After that i will check for libutempter and install it if it is not already installed. Hal is already installed and should not be a problem.
Then I will restart the kdebase install.
I would like to make a local repository in my external usb hard drive, that would contain everything needed to do a full install of Arch, Trinity and other programs. I don't need any details on how to do it right now but would you know if setting something up like that is difficult?
The reason I want to do this is so I can go to areas in Panama that do not have "high speed" internet but do have low speed internet and install the software on local computers there. Then the locals could use the 128 kb wireless links to get email, and do a little surfing of the web.
Thanks for the help
Keith
]]>l0ner
I just tried to finish a previous installation of trinity-kdebase. This was because that installation terminated in the middle of the install--when Trinity's server died in December.
When I tried it a couple of days ago, I got a lot of "mirror not found" messages for:
libraw1394
cifs-utils
smbclientand then the AUR install shuts down.
Did you do pacman -Sy before trying to resume building trinity? Packages you listed come from the arch repos and are not part of trinity (but they are trinity dependencies). When they got updated the version change, and thus change the filename of package in arch repo. If you have outdated local package list, pacman will search for package versions that don't exist anymore.
1 - I need to remove the previously atemped install files and start all over?
Theoretically no, since no changes were made to the package groups and names. But you should update them. That means rebuilding them. Removal, unless you want to be really sure everything goes fine, shouldn't be necessary.
Please note that the trinity internal dependencies were changed so some of previously installed packages will become useless. The current dependency chain up to trinity-kdebase is: trinity-qt3, trinity-tqtinterface, trinity-arts, trinity-dbus-tqt, trinity-kdelibs, trinity-kdebase.
2 - If you can still install all of Trinity by installing trinity-kdebase?
Yes, unless you use our split-pkgbuild available in trinity git. You won't get though the applications provided by trinity-extras packages (again, look at trinity git repository tde-packaging) [http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde- … rch/3.5.13].
3 - If the trinity-kdebase install works "as is" or if you need to do anything special to make it work?
You will need hal, hal-info and libutempter from aur. First one is needed for trinity-kdebase, last one is needed for trinity-kdelibs.
4 - If I need to install the Arch Febuary updates before I install the current version of Trinity?
Honestly, dunno, since I test the pkgbuilds on up-to-date system. I know that you need to recompile trinity after updating (problems with libpng) but otherwise everything should work.
]]>I just tried to finish a previous installation of trinity-kdebase. This was because that installation terminated in the middle of the install--when Trinity's server died in December.
When I tried it a couple of days ago, I got a lot of "mirror not found" messages for:
libraw1394
cifs-utils
smbclient
and then the AUR install shuts down.
To save me a lot of time testing things over a slow internet connection, could you tell me if:
1 - I need to remove the previously atemped install files and start all over?
2 - If you can still install all of Trinity by installing trinity-kdebase?
3 - If the trinity-kdebase install works "as is" or if you need to do anything special to make it work?
4 - If I need to install the Arch Febuary updates before I install the current version of Trinity?
Keith
]]>I have managed to get everything running again. You will need the following:
(1) install libpng14 from AUR (this was the big culprit)
Or just recompile against new libpng. I wouldn't say, that Arch broke anything.
]]>(1) install libpng14 from AUR (this was the big culprit)
(2) downgrade audiofile from 3.3 -> 3.2 (breaks sound and basket notepads)
you will have to find the audiofile-3.2 binary, it will not rebuild from the 3.2 PKGBUILD without modifying the Makefile to add -lm. Hopefully I will have time this summer to jump back into 3.5.13.
]]>If you install it first you will not have the dependency problem.
Whether it would work for any other flavor of KDE3, I have no idea.
I got it from Calvin on the Trinity site.
If you want it, and if there is somewhere on this forum to post it, just point me to the info on "how and where" and I will post it there.
If not, I could put it up on MediaFire.com and you could download it from there and I would post the link here.
kwd
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