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#1 2010-12-26 16:31:31

Fleet
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Rip to flac

Hi,

I have just installed mpd and ncmpcpp, but I need to rip my whole music collection to flac. How would you suggest I do this and what tools work well? I am also curious about how I should add album/track information etc. appropriately.

Sincerely, Fleet

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#2 2010-12-26 16:33:03

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Re: Rip to flac

I use abcde (CLI)

pacman -S abcde
abcde -o flac

If you have more than one drive then its

abcde -d /dev/<drive> -o flac

Edit, if you use abcde you can create a config file in ~/.abcde.conf using http://andrews-corner.org/abcde.html#flac as a template

Last edited by SS4 (2010-12-26 16:41:02)


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#3 2010-12-26 16:40:31

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Re: Rip to flac

Try out something like RubyRipper which was just promoted to Community from AUR, it does all that for you.

(there are several programs that do this but this seems like a good moment to plug it wink)


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#4 2010-12-26 17:00:24

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Re: Rip to flac

I use cdparanoia to rip (set read speed to lower if there are errors on ripping) and then flac to convert to flac:

cdparanoia --abort-on-skip --batch --output-wav --force-read-speed 16
flac -V -8 --delete-input-file

I now will shamelessly recommend my menu-driven bash script for tagging FLAC files nice and easily from the command line...see my signature tongue no idea how it compares to the above mentioned tools though.

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#5 2010-12-26 17:10:54

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Re: Rip to flac

Thank you for your answers. Can ncmpcpp name tracks by itself or does the tracks need to be named with a special convention to be used with ncmcpp?

EDIT: nice dyscoria, I will look at that bash script.

Last edited by Fleet (2010-12-26 17:11:58)

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#6 2010-12-26 17:19:28

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Re: Rip to flac

ncmpcpp can be used to rename and tag music files, but therefore I'd recommend a real tagger like flack (don't know that, but I guess it's good wink ) or easytag or something like that.
I also use abcde to rip my cds, rubyripper is very good, but it didn't work here a while ago, so I chose to stay with abcde, which never failed.

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#7 2010-12-27 20:43:56

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Re: Rip to flac

I've decided to try out EAC under wine. Do you know how to set it up or any guides for that (flac, cue sheets, naming)?

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#8 2010-12-27 22:06:28

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Re: Rip to flac

EAC under wine can be set up using exactly the same guides to usage as are used under Windows.  I have used it and Rubyripper, recently, to convert approximately 700 CDs to flac.  Both are good programs and both have minor annoyances.

The best howtos and guides for me, when setting up EAC, were the Hydrogenaudio wiki and the Hydrogenaudio forums.

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#9 2010-12-27 22:08:55

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Re: Rip to flac

Grip is another good linux-native ripper/tagger.  I highly recommend it.

EDIT: Wow, abcde is amazing!  Thanks for posting that url, SS4.

pacman -Rs grip

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#10 2010-12-27 22:13:08

Army
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Re: Rip to flac

I think there are plenty of howtos out there in the web, there won't be many EAC users here I guess, since we have abcde and rubyripper, two excellent rippers + many other good rippers, which I don't know. Oh wait, grip, that's the one I used when I used Ubuntu and liked graphical interfaces, which I don't do anymore wink

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#11 2010-12-27 22:15:40

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Re: Rip to flac

KDE users may enjoy the audiocd: ioslave. Works well, I ripped several CD-s with that.

update: I forgot to add, it handles CDDB automatically.

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#12 2010-12-28 00:13:15

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Re: Rip to flac

I also use rubyripper, as it seems to offer the best assurance for accuracy (it rips tracks twice and compares md5 sums or something like that. . .). It offers a nice cli, which I usually use.

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#13 2010-12-28 01:00:56

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Re: Rip to flac

EAC here as it arguably still has the best error-detection and handling.. besides it's a nice piece of legacy software...
It works pretty well with wine as mentioned.

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#14 2010-12-28 01:44:48

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Re: Rip to flac

SanskritFritz wrote:

KDE users may enjoy the audiocd: ioslave. Works well, I ripped several CD-s with that.

update: I forgot to add, it handles CDDB automatically.

Do you just copy and paste as per a normal file via dolphin?


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#15 2010-12-28 13:29:59

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Re: Rip to flac

SS4 wrote:
SanskritFritz wrote:

KDE users may enjoy the audiocd: ioslave. Works well, I ripped several CD-s with that.

update: I forgot to add, it handles CDDB automatically.

Do you just copy and paste as per a normal file via dolphin?

That's the intended way to use the kio slaves (or are they now called ioslaves?)

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#16 2010-12-28 14:01:28

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Re: Rip to flac

EAC user here. Set it up in wine, configured it after doing a trial run in Windows (the wine EAC set exactly the same options as the Windows one, so I left them as they were).

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#17 2010-12-28 14:06:26

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Re: Rip to flac

just another one (gtk): Asunder

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#18 2010-12-28 22:09:27

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Re: Rip to flac

Tried out EAC (0.99 prebeta 5), it works really well in wine - the 1.0 beta 1 version fails. I'm trying out abcde aswell. But I am unsure how to get mkcue or similar to work with abcde to generate a cue sheet.

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#19 2010-12-28 22:14:46

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Re: Rip to flac

abcde -a default,cue

-1 -- encode as single file
-a -- options

You do need mkcue from the AUR though

edit: the -1 may not be necessary, I'm just testing it at the moment (using let there be rock if anyone is interested tongue)

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#20 2011-02-25 21:02:15

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Re: Rip to flac

I hate to be ressing an old topic, but why would one encode an audio cd as a single file, what is the advantage of this?

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#21 2011-02-25 22:00:13

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Re: Rip to flac

Fleet wrote:

I hate to be ressing an old topic, but why would one encode an audio cd as a single file, what is the advantage of this?

One advantage is the gaps or lack of gaps between tracks are preserved.  Abbey Road by the Beatles and many classical albums are examples where some tracks, but not all, have originally had no gaps between them.  You play back the album as the artist or producer intended it to be heard when you record the CD as a single file.

Preserving the gaps is probably less important with modern popular music, where the artists and producer are aware that the song will most probably be heard as a single song isolated from others on the album.

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#22 2011-02-25 22:20:38

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Re: Rip to flac

thisoldman wrote:
Fleet wrote:

I hate to be ressing an old topic, but why would one encode an audio cd as a single file, what is the advantage of this?

One advantage is the gaps or lack of gaps between tracks are preserved.  Abbey Road by the Beatles and many classical albums are examples where some tracks, but not all, have originally had no gaps between them.  You play back the album as the artist or producer intended it to be heard when you record the CD as a single file.

Modern players and formats can handle gapless playback fine if even you don't rip it to one file. (flac, ogg etc).

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#23 2011-02-26 01:08:27

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Re: Rip to flac

I'm shpwing my age.

Gapless is not quite the same as the recording with sometimes a gap and sometimes not.  Some players also have an audible artifact between songs.  But I'm very picky about music.

I'm one of those people who can distinguish, sometimes, the difference between 220 kbps and 256 kbps mp3s.  Unfortunately, I have enough music and audio training that I can't just have songs as a background.  If music is playing, I'm deconstructing it: not just what the musicians were playing but what kind of microphone was placed where, what guitar amps were probably used, what effects were added and when...

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#24 2011-02-26 05:04:34

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