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#1 2013-10-04 00:36:35

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Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

As opposed to taking an industry certification test? 
Or does it simply remind you of how simple/why you continue to use linux?


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#2 2013-10-04 00:40:52

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

For me, Linux forums are a way of sharing skills/knowledge and picking up new ones. I also learn things better when trying to explain them to others.

I've never taken a certification test, so I can't comment on how forums relate to those.


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#3 2013-10-04 00:47:57

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

WorMzy wrote:

For me, Linux forums are a way of sharing skills/knowledge and picking up new ones. I also learn things better when trying to explain them to others.

I've never taken a certification test, so I can't comment on how forums relate to those.

+1

Forum activity can help you stay in the loop or motivate you to e.g. read up on something.

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#4 2013-10-04 00:56:26

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

karol wrote:
WorMzy wrote:

For me, Linux forums are a way of sharing skills/knowledge and picking up new ones. I also learn things better when trying to explain them to others.

I've never taken a certification test, so I can't comment on how forums relate to those.

+1

Forum activity can help you stay in the loop or motivate you to e.g. read up on something.

+2

It isn't just motivation, though. It is also a way of figuring out which questions to ask. That is, it doesn't even occur to me that some things are possible or problematic which others ask about, so it is a way of getting a better sense of how the system works.

Also, I don't get to discuss any of this stuff with anybody in person. (I was going to say 'real' and in a sense that's true, too.) So it is also a way of not feeling quite so isolated as a Linux user - of feeling less of a freak.


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#5 2013-10-04 01:12:07

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

WorMzy wrote:

I've never taken a certification test, so I can't comment on how forums relate to those.

It's just a general question of which would give the more satisfaction or has already given satisfaction.


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#6 2013-10-04 01:34:49

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

It confirms my awesomeness.

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#7 2013-10-04 02:21:15

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

Allan wrote:

It confirms my awesomeness.

That's a fact. I think it gives me an idea of where I stand in terms of competence, at least. But as others have mentioned, it mostly serves the purpose of keeping me in the loop.

All the best,

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#8 2013-10-04 02:27:33

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

cfr wrote:

... So it is also a way of not feeling quite so isolated as a Linux user - of feeling less of a freak.

Don't worry, we all still think you're a freak.

But on topic, I don't know much about any of the certifications, but regular forum participation does give a pretty clear picture of how you "stack up" against other linux users.  Sometimes I feel good that I can help solve someone else's problem; other times I feel like a fool for getting something completely wrong.  That said, the comparison here is against other archlinux users.  If you ever want to feel brilliant, go hang out in the *buntu boards for a while.

[Note - this is not disrespecting another forum or distro as I mean no insult to either those distros or their communities.  Rather I'm referring only to the fact that those distros are much more noob-freindly and don't require the investment of learning from a user as arch does.]


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#9 2013-10-04 02:40:30

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

Allan wrote:

It confirms my awesomeness.

Doesn't everything? smile


nomorewindows wrote:
WorMzy wrote:

I've never taken a certification test, so I can't comment on how forums relate to those.

It's just a general question of which would give the more satisfaction or has already given satisfaction.

Helping people, in whatever way you can and to the extent of whatever your ability, is always more satisfying than some personal acheivement. Also, contributing to Arch is the only way to bask in Allan's awesomeness...


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#10 2013-10-04 03:14:13

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

I am here for two reasons.

1. To help others freely with my knowledge of Linux.
2. To realize, on a daily basis, how much I don't know based on knowledge shared freely here by others.

Edit:  BTW, as one who hires (and fires) engineers, I could give a rip about certificates.  OTOH, a BS degree is imperative.

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#11 2013-10-04 04:48:12

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

'Cause I want...

No, no pun intended


Well, I suppose that this is somekind of signature, no?

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#12 2013-10-04 13:02:18

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

Allan wrote:

It confirms my awesomeness.

I heard the certificates are there because of insurance reasons.  So if someone doesn't have insurance or a warranty, then I can mess it up just as bad as anyone else can. 
The forums are here just in case Allan broke it.


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#13 2013-10-04 13:35:17

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

Allan sucks.

Jristz wrote:

'Cause I want...

No, no pun intended

I love you, Jristz. big_smile

To answer the original question, I wrote about why I post here a while back on my blog: http://archlinux.me/drcouzelis/2013/05/ … st-update/ Good memories. smile

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#14 2013-10-04 15:51:18

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

I almost forgot that Phrak was still having problems securing his system, so I guess the forums would be good for that too. 
Where's a certified person when you need one?

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#15 2013-10-04 18:00:39

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

drcouzelis wrote:

To answer the original question, I wrote about why I post here a while back on my blog: http://archlinux.me/drcouzelis/2013/05/ … st-update/ Good memories. smile

Nice post!


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#16 2013-10-04 18:47:25

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

cfr wrote:

I don't get to discuss any of this stuff with anybody in person. (I was going to say 'real' and in a sense that's true, too.) So it is also a way of not feeling quite so isolated as a Linux user - of feeling less of a freak.


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#17 2013-10-04 21:28:32

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

The only thing that I've really learned about my skills based on my contributions here is that I use Google too much...

@Allan is awesome. You can see the awesomeness oozing from every word typed here.


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#18 2013-10-05 01:56:56

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

ewaller wrote:

OTOH, a BS degree is imperative.

You wouldn't consider an Oxford graduate, then?


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#19 2013-10-05 02:54:33

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

cfr wrote:
ewaller wrote:

OTOH, a BS degree is imperative.

You wouldn't consider an Oxford graduate, then?

Well, yes, I would.   To me, a degree indicates a level of self motivation and personal discipline.  I find that people with fresh technical degrees really know their tech and have the demonstrated the ability to navigate the politics that  must me dealt with on the path to becoming a useful engineer.


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#20 2013-10-05 03:37:03

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

Just Oxford only gives BAs. (For some reason best known to themselves.)


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#21 2013-10-05 03:39:44

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

cfr wrote:

Just Oxford only gives BAs. (For some reason best known to themselves.)


Obviously because the Sciences are subordinate to the Arts... tongue


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#22 2013-10-05 03:47:24

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

cfr wrote:

Just Oxford only gives BAs. (For some reason best known to themselves.)

I understood that, but I guess that understanding was not explicit in my response.  smile
A person with a BA that includes advanced math and physical science would past muster.


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#23 2013-10-05 04:09:32

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

drcouzelis wrote:

Nice collection of links!

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#24 2013-10-05 06:05:14

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

well, practical experience is obviously useful. I have seen "certified" people just not able to think about something how to do something while I have already formulated the solution in my mind big_smile

hell, in my company, I have infra guys with a lot of experience working on Unix but never heard of rsync/tmux/screen and a whole lot of other awesome programs.
reason ? they just use Unix for a job and only within the limit required. No *nix once outside office and they're certified smile


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#25 2013-10-05 12:24:45

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Re: Does your contribution to the forums give you an idea of your skills?

jasonwryan wrote:
cfr wrote:

Just Oxford only gives BAs. (For some reason best known to themselves.)


Obviously because the Sciences are subordinate to the Arts... tongue

The aesthetics of Architecture is more important than the underlying Engineering.


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