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#26 2017-06-29 23:01:54

seth
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Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

(Your $HOME exists and looks writable, / isn't mounted noexec or vfat/ntfs)

So /usr/bin/pcmanfm-qt exists and is executable, but running "pcmanfm-qt" yells "-bash: pcmanfm-qt: command not found"?

echo $PATH
/usr/bin/pcmanfm-qt &

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#27 2017-06-29 23:56:02

jmak
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Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

seth wrote:

(Your $HOME exists and looks writable, / isn't mounted noexec or vfat/ntfs)

So /usr/bin/pcmanfm-qt exists and is executable, but running "pcmanfm-qt" yells "-bash: pcmanfm-qt: command not found"?

echo $PATH
/usr/bin/pcmanfm-qt &

Here is the output of “echo $PATH”:

/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl

When I executed the “/usr/bin/pcmanfm-qt &” command pcmanfm was launched. I could easily move it around the screen, but once again the icons and the menu were unresponsive. When I rolled over the folders icons like Pictures, Downloads and so on the labels came up showing the name of the folders, but when I clicked the folder icons nothing happened. The same thing with the pcmanfm menu like File, View and so on.

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#28 2017-06-30 06:03:09

seth
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Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

To make this absolutely clear: calling "pcmanfm-qt &" does *NOT* work but "/usr/bin/pcmanfm-qt &" does depite the $PATH clearly includes /usr/bin ??

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#29 2017-06-30 11:24:19

jmak
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Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

seth wrote:

To make this absolutely clear: calling "pcmanfm-qt &" does *NOT* work but "/usr/bin/pcmanfm-qt &" does depite the $PATH clearly includes /usr/bin ??

seth,

Both commands work. Before writing this, I logged in once again in lxqt startx environment executed "pcmanfm-qt &" and it worked. I can confirm that both commands work.

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#30 2017-06-30 15:32:25

seth
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Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

Ok, so get an xterm running and can call pcmanfm-qt from there, but if you run "startlxqt" you only get a semi-operative desktop environment?

From that xterm, run and dump

echo $XDG_SESSION_ID
loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID
loginctl session-status
loginctl user-status
echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS

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#31 2017-06-30 17:09:34

jmak
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Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

seth wrote:

Ok, so get an xterm running and can call pcmanfm-qt from there, but if you run "startlxqt" you only get a semi-operative desktop environment?

From that xterm, run and dump

echo $XDG_SESSION_ID
loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID
loginctl session-status
loginctl user-status
echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS

echo $XDG_SESSION_ID

c1

loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID

Id=c1
User=1000
Name=mak
Timestamp=Fri 2017-06-30 12:39:44 EDT
TimestampMonotonic=17890419
VTNr=1
Seat=seat0
TTY=tty1
Remote=no
Service=login
Scope=session-c1.scope
Leader=223
Audit=0
Type=tty
Class=user
Active=yes
State=active
IdleHint=no
IdleSinceHint=1498840784948738
IdleSinceHintMonotonic=17880157
LockedHint=no

loginctl session-status

c1 - mak (1000)
	   Since: Fri 2017-06-30 12:39:44 EDT; 6min ago
	  Leader: 223 (login)
	    Seat: seat0; vc1
	     TTY: tty1
	 Service: login; type tty; class user
	   State: active
	    Unit: session-c1.scope
		  |-223 login -- mak
		  |-339 -bash
		  |-344 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx
		  |-366 xinit /home/mak/.xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc :0 vt1 -auth /tmp/serverauth.oCIwpGRvoE
		  |-367 /usr/lib/xorg-server/Xorg -nolisten tcp :0 vt1 -auth /tmp/serverauth.oCIwpGRvoE
		  |-369 xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper intel_backlight
		  |-372 xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login
		  |-377 twm
		  |-378 xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1
		  |-379 xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51
		  |-380 xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0
		  |-384 bash
		  |-385 bash
		  |-386 bash
		  |-392 pcmanfm-qt
		  `-420 loginctl session-status

Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[1]: Started Session c1 of user mak.
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost login[223]: LOGIN ON tty1 BY mak

loginctl user-status

mak (1000)
	   Since: Fri 2017-06-30 12:39:44 EDT; 7min ago
	   State: active
	Sessions: *c1
	  Linger: no
	    Unit: user-1000.slice
		  |-session-c1.scope
		  | |-223 login -- mak
		  | |-339 -bash
		  | |-344 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx
		  | |-366 xinit /home/mak/.xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc :0 vt1 -auth /tmp/serverauth.oCIwpGRvoE
		  | |-367 /usr/lib/xorg-server/Xorg -nolisten tcp :0 vt1 -auth /tmp/serverauth.oCIwpGRvoE
		  | |-369 xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper intel_backlight
		  | |-372 xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login
		  | |-377 twm
		  | |-378 xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1
		  | |-379 xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51
		  | |-380 xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0
		  | |-384 bash
		  | |-385 bash
		  | |-386 bash
		  | |-392 pcmanfm-qt
		  | `-427 loginctl user-status
		  `-user@1000.service
		    |-dbus.service
		    | `-376 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation
		    `-init.scope
		      |-331 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user
		      `-332 (sd-pam)

Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Listening on GnuPG cryptographic agent and passphrase cache (access for web browsers).
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Reached target Timers.
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Listening on D-Bus User Message Bus Socket.
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Reached target Sockets.
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Reached target Basic System.
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Starting Update XDG user dir configuration...
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Started Update XDG user dir configuration.
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Reached target Default.
Jun 30 12:39:44 myhost systemd[331]: Startup finished in 33ms.
Jun 30 12:39:51 myhost systemd[331]: Started D-Bus User Message Bus.

echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS

unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus

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#32 2017-06-30 19:59:02

seth
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Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

That's all fine... but if you startlxqt from the xterm it doesn't respond? Any suspicious output in the xterm (when trying to do some)?
Can you open files from pcmanfm-qt by eg. clicking them?
Interact with the pcmfm instance otherwise (open the settings dialog etc.)?

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#33 2017-06-30 20:47:39

jmak
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Posts: 453

Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

seth wrote:

That's all fine... but if you startlxqt from the xterm it doesn't respond? Any suspicious output in the xterm (when trying to do some)?
Can you open files from pcmanfm-qt by eg. clicking them?
Interact with the pcmfm instance otherwise (open the settings dialog etc.)?

When I launch startlxqt in xterm terminal, it does respond, it waits about 10-15 seconds and launches the lxqt environment with the panel and the icons unresponsive. So, I can do nothing other than rolling over the icons.

When I launch pcmanfm I can drag it around the screen and I can even scroll with two fingers fine. But when I click on the menues in top row or the folder and file icons there is no response. This is very strange.

All four desktop environments I tried so far suffered from the exact same issue.

EDIT: First, I thought it was some hardware issue. But this is not possible because Manjaro gnome and Antergos kde run fine on this machine both being an arch based distro

EDIT: If you need some output from Manjaro or Antergos system for comparison purposes let me know.

Last edited by jmak (2017-06-30 20:58:53)

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#34 2017-07-02 18:23:00

jmak
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Registered: 2008-12-21
Posts: 453

Re: KDE installation on a new laptop failed[SOLVED]

Hello,

Thanks to everyone (especially to seth) for helping me solving this misterous issue of semi-responsive desktop that I ended up with after a fresh install.

Actually, the solution was very simple; we looked for the problem in wrong place. The problem was the touchpad.

I created a generic “90-libinput.conf” file, put it in the “/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d” directory and the desktop started working immadietly.

The installer doesn’t generate libinput.conf file and it seems that some laptop models need this file to operate properly.

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