Overheating problem while whatching video with browsers

darchZero · 2017-11-19 11:05:58

asus x550ln laptop

Kernel: x86_64 Linux 4.13.12-1-ARCH
CPU: Intel Core i5-4200U @ 4x 2.6GHz [58.0°C]
GPU: intel / Nvidia840M (bumblebe property drivers installed
RAM: 3297MiB / 7431MiB

no flash installed.

while watching video with browsers (chrome/chromium/firefox(57) ) laptop overheating every time. there is no problem with debian based distrubution only manjaro and arch.

seth · 2017-11-19 13:46:33

What is "overheating"? CPU? GPU?
How's CPU load when playing what video with which browser?
Chromium doesn't support vdpau by default, "debian based" is probably ubuntu and they might have flipped the compile flag: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/is … ?id=137247

darchZero · 2017-11-19 13:56:56

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0: +43.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +40.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +43.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +43.0°C (crit = +103.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan: 2000 RPM
temp1: +43.0°C

pch_haswell-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +40.5°C

in normal load pc like this but whenever i open video on browsers all temps are going 60 and fan 3000rpm i tried chrome chromium also new firefox yes as i sad debian based distrubions and debian doesnt have this problem, i think firefox suppors vdpau but firefox has same problem, and now currently im using firefox.

seth · 2017-11-19 15:29:17

Not according to the wiki:: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ha … celeration. Some NPAPI plugins did, but they're now dead (so older FF versions might not have exposed this because you've eg. been using the flash plugin, that's why I asked *what* videos)

darchZero · 2017-11-19 17:45:49

for example some tv series videos http://sezonlukdizi.net/the-punisher/1- … bolum.html with firefox/chrome/chromium and youtube videos to.( not as much as the link i gave this link cause temp 60 youtube causes 55 degree)

progandy · 2017-11-19 19:14:07

55-60 degreees is pretty normal for HTML5 video playback in a browser for me. If i watch longer videos, I sometimes use the Video DownloadHelper to copy the URL and then run it with mpv from a terminal.
send to mpv might be a better way, but I did not test it yet.
Edit: For youtube I have mpv with youtube-dl

Last edited by progandy (2017-11-19 19:20:25)

darchZero · 2017-11-19 22:14:56

60 degree is my almost fully load temps i am using this laptop daily so... i ll try mpv but it doesnt solve the real issue.

seth · 2017-11-19 22:55:03

In your "debian based distro", run chromium, enter "about://flags" and check the value for "Hardware-accelerated video decode "

i_love_r34 · 2017-11-19 23:12:25

I recommend to use UXA instead of SNA if you're using xf86-video-intel. Or removing the xf86-video-intel and use glamor.

darchZero · 2017-11-19 23:14:05

it says:

Hardware-accelerated video decode Mac, Windows, Chrome OS, Android
Hardware-accelerated video decode where available. #disable-accelerated-video-decode
Sorry, this experiment is not available on your platform.

and now my chromium has same

darchZero · 2017-11-19 23:14:55

i_love_r34 wrote:

I recommend to use UXA instead of SNA if you're using xf86-video-intel. Or removing the xf86-video-intel and use glamor.

i ll try and report here.

Batou · 2017-11-20 07:36:50

Chromium/Chrome for Linux does not support HW video decoding yet. I believe they're working on it.

If performance is an issue, use this extension to force H.264 video which all CPUs are well optimized to handle: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta … kgioiakgal

You can also use mpv to play Youtube/vimeo etc directly from the command line and mpv can use HW decoding.

Last edited by Batou (2017-11-20 07:37:59)

seth · 2017-11-20 07:55:27

darchZero wrote:

it says:

Sorry, this experiment is not available on your platform.
and now my chromium has same

So arch and debian use software video decoding. Check whether the CPU load is about the same (I assume this is the same hardware because otherwise the temperature comparism is of course moot)
Also relevant may be how fans are configured and whether you're invoking the nvidia GPU on one or the other, whether one is running wayland and the other is running xorg as display server, iow: you need to provide A LOT of data comparing the systems to identify why the temperature behavior is different.

@Batou
There're patches to enable VAAPI (and iirc even vdpau) on chromium floating around since years, it's enabled on ChromeOS. This will *never* be supported upstream.

darchZero · 2017-11-20 10:04:21

seth wrote:

darchZero wrote:
it says:

Sorry, this experiment is not available on your platform.
and now my chromium has same
So arch and debian use software video decoding. Check whether the CPU load is about the same (I assume this is the same hardware because otherwise the temperature comparism is of course moot)
Also relevant may be how fans are configured and whether you're invoking the nvidia GPU on one or the other, whether one is running wayland and the other is running xorg as display server, iow: you need to provide A LOT of data comparing the systems to identify why the temperature behavior is different.

@Batou
There're patches to enable VAAPI (and iirc even vdpau) on chromium floating around since years, it's enabled on ChromeOS. This will *never* be supported upstream.

i get that thank you i will collect data and compera differences , i gave up chrome/chromium now my default browser is firefox quantum bc its awesome now, is there any firefox suggestions that i use?
and the other thing i liked very much watching videos with mpv mplayer or smplayer stream is there any way to watch every video on mpv or smplayer i click in firefox ? even twitter facebook youtube included?

i_love_r34 · 2017-11-20 19:06:55

You can use this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo … assistant/
But this is only available on Firefox with the old addon API (56 or less version).

Batou · 2017-11-20 22:59:57

seth wrote:

@Batou
There're patches to enable VAAPI (and iirc even vdpau) on chromium floating around since years, it's enabled on ChromeOS. This will *never* be supported upstream.

Oh, OK. Given how the new build of Chromium is now superb and no longer ridden with bugs, I wonder if maintainer will link vaapi and vdpau in...

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