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#1 2009-09-26 14:42:25

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VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

Why there is no x86_64 build of virtualbox in repo? Is there a some issue with 64bit build of it?


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#2 2009-09-26 14:48:23

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

Search the forums; you cannot build virtualbox on a native x86_64 system.

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#3 2009-09-26 14:49:01

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

i think i've said that for couples of times on the forum.
virtualbox-ose is not a native 64 bit application because needs multilib gcc and archlinux doesn't provide that.

Checking for libcap library: found, OK.
Checking for compiler.h: compiler.h not found, OK.
Checking for 32-bit support: 
  Cannot compile 32-bit applications (missing headers and/or libraries)!

if you really want it, submit feature requests on virtualbox bugtracker. we can't do anything about that.

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#4 2009-09-26 22:31:32

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

You can however install virtualbox_bin

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#5 2009-09-26 23:45:33

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

wonder wrote:

i think i've said that for couples of times on the forum.
virtualbox-ose is not a native 64 bit application because needs multilib gcc and archlinux doesn't provide that.

Checking for libcap library: found, OK.
Checking for compiler.h: compiler.h not found, OK.
Checking for 32-bit support: 
  Cannot compile 32-bit applications (missing headers and/or libraries)!

if you really want it, submit feature requests on virtualbox bugtracker. we can't do anything about that.

Thank you for explanation. And yes, I do really need some free app for virtualization, and I cannot use VirtualBox-bin for free because of its license. Anyway, thanx, I can always buy vmware workstation or virtualbox commercial license.


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#6 2009-09-27 20:17:04

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

hokum_rus wrote:

Thank you for explanation. And yes, I do really need some free app for virtualization, and I cannot use VirtualBox-bin for free because of its license. Anyway, thanx, I can always buy vmware workstation or virtualbox commercial license.

You can use the gcc-multilib package from AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28545, that should make it possible to build VirtualBox on x86_64. The trick is that you actually need the gcc-multilib packages installed in order to build gcc-multilib... To solve that chicken/egg problem you can download (a sligthly outdated) pre-built package from a link in the comments on the AUR page.

Hope this helps smile

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#7 2009-09-28 16:05:06

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

i did some packages and i want feedback. please remove any lib32 packages that you have (just to be sure that the testing is valid)  and play with virtualbox.

here are them: http://archlinux.ro/~ioni/vbox/

p.s they are built against kernel 2.6.31

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#8 2009-09-28 22:56:47

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

wonder wrote:

p.s they are built against kernel 2.6.31

kernel form testing repo?


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#9 2009-09-29 07:58:58

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

hokum_rus wrote:
wonder wrote:

p.s they are built against kernel 2.6.31

kernel form testing repo?

yep


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#10 2009-09-29 20:02:38

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

wonder wrote:
hokum_rus wrote:
wonder wrote:

p.s they are built against kernel 2.6.31

kernel form testing repo?

yep

Ok, I'll try it as soon as I will run new kernel


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#11 2009-09-29 21:49:11

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

hokum_rus wrote:

And yes, I do really need some free app for virtualization, and I cannot use VirtualBox-bin for free because of its license. Anyway, thanx, I can always buy vmware workstation or virtualbox commercial license.

That is wrong.

You can use virtualbox-bin for free.

It is not a commercial product.

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#12 2009-09-29 22:12:27

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

wantilles wrote:
hokum_rus wrote:

And yes, I do really need some free app for virtualization, and I cannot use VirtualBox-bin for free because of its license. Anyway, thanx, I can always buy vmware workstation or virtualbox commercial license.

That is wrong.

You can use virtualbox-bin for free.

It is not a commercial product.

He is correct! The virtualbox_bin packages is released under this license: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL
If you read it you will noticed that it is only free to use for personal use, academic use, or evaluation purposes. So if you want to use it in a commercial setting you have to pay to use it.

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#13 2009-09-29 22:19:49

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

wonder wrote:

i did some packages and i want feedback. please remove any lib32 packages that you have (just to be sure that the testing is valid)  and play with virtualbox.

here are them: http://archlinux.ro/~ioni/vbox/

p.s they are built against kernel 2.6.31

I've tried building virtualbox-ose for x86_64 around version 2.4, but couldn't because gcc in Arch isn't multilib, and VirtualBox needs multilib features to virtualize 32-bit on 64-bit. How did you get around this? Did you disable 32-bit virtualization?

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#14 2009-09-29 23:01:05

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

i used the package that you suggested, but updated to 4.4.1. i wanted to try it to see how is working big_smile


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#15 2009-09-30 12:59:52

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

Well, I'm on 2.6.31-ARCH and tryed wonder virtualbox, yet without removing lib32 packages. It goes well untill actually launching virtual machine. All the system freeze hard.
On weekend I hope to try it clean.


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#16 2009-09-30 13:15:34

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

why even bother with OSE when bin is working just fine on 64bit host? Also OSE comes with LESS features then bin.


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#17 2009-09-30 14:22:34

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

greenfish wrote:

why even bother with OSE when bin is working just fine on 64bit host? Also OSE comes with LESS features then bin.

in my case the license is a spot. I need a free virtualization program for commercial use.


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#18 2009-10-01 06:34:29

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

wonder wrote:

i used the package that you suggested, but updated to 4.4.1. i wanted to try it to see how is working big_smile

Cool smile I actually haven't tried it myself... Did you have to install any other packages than gcc-multilib?

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#19 2009-10-06 15:59:09

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

i'm going to maintain my own repo for virtualbox-ose x86_64. just add to pacman.conf

[vbox]
Server = http://archlinux.ro/~ioni/vbox

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#20 2009-10-10 07:02:44

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

wonder wrote:

i'm going to maintain my own repo for virtualbox-ose x86_64. just add to pacman.conf

[vbox]
Server = http://archlinux.ro/~ioni/vbox

Its for TESTING repo?


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#21 2009-10-10 07:34:44

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

yes hokum_rus.

EDIT: now is not the case anymore:D

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#22 2009-10-10 23:42:55

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

@wonder:
Thanks for your effort, it works great!
I'm glad I didn't have to build it myself smile

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#23 2009-10-13 08:01:01

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

Yes, thank you so much. I never had any problem with the PUEL version but I never used any of the extra features anyway so I'd rather use the OSE. Now I can smile


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#24 2010-01-15 20:05:51

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

wonder wrote:

yes hokum_rus.

EDIT: now is not the case anymore:D

just wondering, is there a reason for maintaining a separate repository and not adding the packages to the community repository?

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#25 2010-01-15 21:20:33

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Re: VirtualBox OSE for 64 bit

anti-destin wrote:
wonder wrote:

yes hokum_rus.

EDIT: now is not the case anymore:D

just wondering, is there a reason for maintaining a separate repository and not adding the packages to the community repository?

yes. the reason its on this thread.


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