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#1 2003-07-23 15:21:12

Nacha
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How to setup xfce4

Hi,

I want to install my wm, and I decide to use xfce4. But it is in unstable and I do not know how to setup. Would you help me?

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#2 2003-07-23 16:30:39

neri
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Re: How to setup xfce4

Hi,

xfce4 consits of 20 packages, some are neccessary, some not. If you
know which you want you have to type all this manually.

To install all of them (give it a try, you can remove such essential packges
like xfce4-toys later  8) ) here are some steps to do...

1. unlock unstable in pacman.conf. To do that remove the #'s before the
unstable-section and the related server entries

2. do a pacman -Ss xfce4 to make sure it is unlocked. Ther should be some
lines printed which refer to the libraries and apps.

3. then - as root- type "abs" and run it. It downloads the whole abs-tree
including the unstable-repository

4. cd /usr/abs/unstable/xfce4
if you like to install all the packages, it is easy now:
pacman -S `/bin/ls`
(note these are backticks)
otherwise you have to type each packagename

5. reboot or run /etc/xfce4.sh manually

6. type startxfce4 from the console (no x running!)
HTH,

bye neri

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#3 2003-07-23 16:48:26

Moritz
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Re: How to setup xfce4

Is there a chance to add xfce4 to gdm? If so, how to?
I couldn't find a gdm config file and gdm-setup does not offer it... :?:

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#4 2003-07-24 09:52:47

neri
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Re: How to setup xfce4

Moritz wrote:

Is there a chance to add xfce4 to gdm? If so, how to?
I couldn't find a gdm config file and gdm-setup does not offer it... :?:

Hm, I quite familiar with the XFCE4 things, but I dont use grafical display
Manager. I always use startx and run level 3. But I found that Fluxbox is
very common and people try to include it to their gdm's and kdm's. Google
is your friend.
http://www.google.de/search?q=gdm+start … uche&meta=

this (german) looks quite promising:
http://www.gentoo.de/inhalte/doku/anwendungen/fluxbox/
I think this might be also available from the english page. To adopt this for
xfce4 is pretty challanging. Their xinitrc script is kind of complex. good luck.

bye neri

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#5 2003-07-24 12:49:06

Nacha
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Re: How to setup xfce4

@ neri
thanks I do all step but when I do "pacman -S `/bin/ls`" i receive the following message: lib: not found in sync db.

What can I do?

Thanks again

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#6 2003-07-28 12:49:06

neri
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Re: How to setup xfce4

Hi Nacha

Nacha wrote:

@ neri
thanks I do all step but when I do "pacman -S `/bin/ls`" i receive the following message: lib: not found in sync db.

What can I do?

The weekend and a lot of family birthday business took me so long...
What I told you was theoretic, since I usualy compile my xfce4 with a
makeworld -bi. Now today before I recompiled I tried what I wrote and it
works. I really don't know what happened at yours. The output you quoted shows
that there is a file or a directory named 'lib' within your xfce4-directory; by
default there shouldn't be such an entry. Please try the following (as root):

1. rm -rf /usr/abs/unstable/xfce4
2. abs
3. use a filemanger and navigate to /usr/abs/unstable/xfce4
    there should be the following entries (note all these are directories)
gtk-xfce-engine
libxfce4mcs
libxfce4util
libxfcegui4
xfce-mcs-manager
xfce-mcs-plugins
xfce-utils
xfce4-iconbox
xfce4-mixer
xfce4-panel
xfce4-systray
xfce4-themes
xfce4-toys
xfce4-trigger-launcher
xfdesktop
xffm
xffm-icons
xfprint
xfwm4
xfwm4-themes

not more, not less

4. retry pacman -S `/bin/ls`

if this doesn't work:
copy the following to an textfile, save it as xfce4-install.sh

#!/bin/bash

pacman -S gtk-xfce-engine libxfce4mcs libxfce4util libxfcegui4 xfce-mcs-manager xfce-mcs-plugins xfce-utils xfce4-iconbox xfce4-mixer xfce4-panel xfce4-systray xfce4-themes xfce4-toys xfce4-trigger-launcher xfdesktop xffm xffm-icons xfprint xfwm4 xfwm4-themes

make it executable and run it

HTH, bye neri

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#7 2003-08-15 03:23:07

Ghost Dawg
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Re: How to setup xfce4

Neri, I just tried your instructions on installing xfce4 and i'm getting same error message about  gtk-xfce-engine: not found in sync db. Even running your script file.

And the part where you mention run pacman -Ss xfce4 instead of some lines of text, I get nothing, the cursor drops down about 2 lines.

Any other ideas?


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#8 2003-08-15 07:41:25

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Re: How to setup xfce4

xfce4 packages are located in the unstable repository and it looks like this repository is not enabled in your /etc/pacman.conf.

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#9 2003-08-15 10:23:07

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Re: How to setup xfce4

How do I enable it, if its not?

Thnx.


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#10 2003-08-15 10:31:39

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Re: How to setup xfce4

Uncomment the section [unstable] from /etc/pacman.conf.
You need at least these 2 lines:

# Uncomment this block to access the 'unstable' package set
#
[unstable]
Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/unstable

And finally:

pacman -Sy

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#11 2003-08-16 03:54:57

Ghost Dawg
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Re: How to setup xfce4

I have done that, and still get same error message.

Thnx.


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#12 2003-08-16 09:18:00

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Re: How to setup xfce4

i just managed to install that package ghost dawg.

what is the first server in your list?

what does pacman -Ss gtk-xfce-engine result in?

if you managed to install the other xfce4 packages from unstable then you should have been able to get this one as it definitley is in the archlinux.org unstable repository.


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#13 2003-08-16 13:28:53

Ghost Dawg
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Re: How to setup xfce4

I have all packages, I think it is about 20 of them. The first one listed is gtk-xfce-engine.

When I run the pacman -Ss gtk-xfce-engine command, I get a blank return. The cursor just drops down a line or two.

I have no idea why it's not working.

Thnx.


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#14 2003-08-16 14:25:09

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Re: How to setup xfce4

most odd:/

is the arch linux.org ftp site first in your list of servers?

if not try moving it to the top of the list and the try calling a search of that package again.


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#15 2003-08-16 18:34:28

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Re: How to setup xfce4

The unstable section didn't have archlinux ftp first so I moved it to the top and still get same results.

# pacman -S `/bin/ls`
gtk-xfce-engine: not found in sync db

Is the tick marks the correct symbol to use?

Does the command pacman -S `/bin/ls` install all the packages? What directory should I be in when I run it? How do I manually install the packages?

I haven't been able to get any of the packages to install.

Anymore suggestions?

Thnx.
[/b]


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#16 2003-08-16 20:19:03

neri
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Re: How to setup xfce4

Hi,

Ghost Dawg wrote:

The unstable section didn't have archlinux ftp first so I moved it to the top and still get same results.

# pacman -S `/bin/ls`
gtk-xfce-engine: not found in sync db

Is the tick marks the correct symbol to use?

Does the command pacman -S `/bin/ls` install all the packages? What directory should I be in when I run it? How do I manually install the packages?

I haven't been able to get any of the packages to install.

Anymore suggestions?

Did you really type a "pacman - Sy" after you unlocked the unstable
section in pacman.conf? this would explain why it is not in your db.

And yes, these ticks are correct:
/bin/ls creates a list af all directories in /usr/abs/unstable/xfce4. This list,
which includes all the packages is overhanded to pacman, thats it.

bye neri

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#17 2003-08-17 13:14:48

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Re: How to setup xfce4

Try to have a look at pacman db:

ls -l /var/lib/pacman/unstable

What is it looking like?

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#18 2003-08-24 02:59:27

Ghost Dawg
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Re: How to setup xfce4

I'm still having no luck with this. I guess I could remove /usr/abs/unstable/xfce4 and try installing it again. What is the best way to remove it?

Thnx.


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#19 2003-09-06 01:15:36

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Re: How to setup xfce4

I just went through this process and
abs
was not populating the /usr/abs/unstable tree

the command line
pacman -S gtk-xfce-engine libxfce4mcs libxfce4util libxfcegui4 xfce-mcs-manager xfce-mcs-plugins xfce-utils xfce4-iconbox xfce4-mixer xfce4-panel xfce4-systray xfce4-themes xfce4-toys xfce4-trigger-launcher xfdesktop xffm xffm-icons xfprint xfwm4 xfwm4-themes

seems to be working


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#20 2003-09-06 06:50:46

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Re: How to setup xfce4

galen wrote:

abs was not poplating the /usr/abs/unstable tree

Check in your /etc/abs/abs.conf file that unstable update is enabled:

#
# Supfiles to be parsed by abs (in this order)
#   (prefix a module with a ! to disable it)
#
SUPFILES=(arch unofficial unstable)

This is a pacman 2.6 new feature.

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#21 2003-09-06 12:21:41

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Re: How to setup xfce4

thank you it is working

now to try xfs and improve the fonts
8)


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#22 2003-09-08 04:46:43

Ghost Dawg
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Re: How to setup xfce4

orelien wrote:
galen wrote:

abs was not poplating the /usr/abs/unstable tree

Check in your /etc/abs/abs.conf file that unstable update is enabled:

#
# Supfiles to be parsed by abs (in this order)
#   (prefix a module with a ! to disable it)
#
SUPFILES=(arch unofficial unstable)

This is a pacman 2.6 new feature.

I'll check mine also to see if it's enabled, because I'm still getting this error message:

gtk-xfce-engine: not found in sync db

And it is installed in unstable or unofficial, I'm not at the computer now.

Thnx.


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#23 2003-09-08 17:12:13

Ghost Dawg
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Re: How to setup xfce4

orelien wrote:

Try to have a look at pacman db:

ls -l /var/lib/pacman/unstable

What is it looking like?

I don't have unstable in mine, but I have unofficial there! Any reason why I don't have it there?


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#24 2003-09-08 20:11:49

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Re: How to setup xfce4

Ghost Dawg wrote:

I don't have unstable in mine

The error "gtk-xfce-engine: not found in sync db" means that the package was not found in datas from /var/lib/pacman, which makes sense since you don't have an unstable directory at this location.
So, to get access to the unstable database, you have to enable it in /etc/pacman.conf (uncomment the [unstable] section).
Then, run "pacman -Sy".
Now, you should have an unstable directory in /var/lib/pacman, and you should be able to install successfully gtk-xfce-engine, and all other xfce4 packages.

If it still doesn't work, could you post the content of your /etc/pacman.conf, and also the ouput of  "pacman -Syv"?

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#25 2003-09-08 22:09:05

Ghost Dawg
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Re: How to setup xfce4

Thanks everybody for all your help with this...I finally see the light and got it installed. The problem was with /etc/pacman.conf. When I uncommented the unstable section, the very first line, [unstable], I never did take the # out of it and that's what kept unstable from being activated.

Also my stable section is not uncommented. It should be uncommented or not? This is what's in my /var/lib/pacman directory.

drwxr-xr-x  353 root     root        12288 Sep  8 16:57 current
drwxr-xr-x  238 root     root         8192 Sep  8 17:02 local
drwxr-xr-x  586 root     root        16384 Sep  8 16:57 unofficial
drwxr-xr-x   33 root     root         4096 Sep  8 16:57 unstable

Thanks again.


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