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#1 2009-11-29 16:23:26

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xd86-video-radeonhd broken with latest Xorg server

I presume this is an issue specific to my setup, but I wanted to report this anyway (you never know). After upgrading xf86-video-radeonhd a few weeks ago (my desktop isn't powered on very often), I noticed yesterday X hung.

Upgrades:

$ grep xf86 /var/log/pacman.log | tail -10
[2009-11-09 17:24] upgraded libxxf86vm (1.0.99.1-1 -> 1.1.0-1)
[2009-11-09 17:24] upgraded libxxf86dga (1.1.1-0.1 -> 1.1.1-1)
[2009-11-09 17:24] upgraded libxxf86misc (1.0.1-2 -> 1.0.2-1)
[2009-11-09 17:24] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.2.5-1 -> 2.3.0-1)
[2009-11-09 17:24] upgraded xf86-input-keyboard (1.3.2-2 -> 1.4.0-1)
[2009-11-09 17:24] upgraded xf86-input-mouse (1.4.0-2 -> 1.5.0-1)
[2009-11-09 17:24] upgraded xf86-video-radeonhd (1.2.5-1 -> 1.3.0-1)
[2009-11-09 17:24] upgraded xf86-video-vesa (2.2.0-1 -> 2.2.1-1)
[2009-11-28 16:36] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.3.0-1 -> 2.3.1-1)
[2009-11-29 17:09] installed xf86-video-ati (6.12.99.git20091014-1)

After checking Xorg.0.log and SLiM's log (both clean), I decided to use xf86-video-ati and that works like a treat. I am going to
rebuild the driver to see if it helps any.


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#2 2009-11-29 16:26:40

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Re: xd86-video-radeonhd broken with latest Xorg server

Radeonhd is useless right now. xf86-video-ati should be used, especially after 2.6.32 kernel, since R600/R700 radeons get 3D/KMS support through it.

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#3 2009-11-29 16:36:25

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Re: xd86-video-radeonhd broken with latest Xorg server

Okay, so what's the long-term use of radeonhd? If xf86-video-ati gets 3D support, won't radeonhd become redundant?

Recompiling didn't work btw.


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#4 2009-11-29 16:43:00

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Re: xd86-video-radeonhd broken with latest Xorg server

Radeonhd was to be used in order to fill the gap for the lack of xf86-video-ati support for >R600 radeons. From now on, there is no need to be used. After 2.6.32 kernel passes to [core], since KMS has been stabilised enough, and 3D is OK for these cards, xf86-video-ati is the best choice, since it's moooore flexible than the thing called fglrx/catalyst.

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#5 2009-11-29 17:01:22

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Re: xd86-video-radeonhd broken with latest Xorg server

I'm not an expert but what I know is:

*3D is supported by mesa so It works with ati or radeonhd.
* xf86-video-ati is the recommended driver.
* xf86-video-ati is way more stable.
* xf86-video-radeonhd doesn't offer much these days. Maybe HD-audio out is the only feature missing from xf86-video-ati.
* What flamelab said. Upstream is working hard on xf86-video-ati and porting to KMS/DRI2.


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#6 2009-11-29 17:06:42

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Re: xd86-video-radeonhd broken with latest Xorg server

Thanks for bringing me up to speed guys smile.


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#7 2009-11-29 17:45:19

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Re: xd86-video-radeonhd broken with latest Xorg server

Having a full HD (1080p) 42 inch TV for over a year, I can't tell any difference between HD programmes when I switch the set between 1080i HD and 720p. As my "business" laptop doesn't have DVI or HDMI, I play 720p HD videos through VGA to the TV (the TV reports a resolution of 1280x720, though the resolution I select for the TV is usually something like 1366x765).

I bought an 8-channel USB sound card for £15 as the laptop only has a single stereo headphone jack, and have that hooked up to 5.1 logitech speakers.

The video and sound sync just fine. Even if I had HDMI, I'd have to split the sound sent via radeonhd from the video to get 5.1 as my TV has no "pass thru" or 5.1 output. Radeonhd has been interesting to watch but I found I got some tearing (ATI HD3200 onboard graphics). xf86-video-ati has done be proud.

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#8 2009-11-29 17:45:38

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Re: xd86-video-radeonhd broken with latest Xorg server

Well informed (like flamelab here, if I can) would place a key-note to the archlinux main page (Latest News), when a new driver line has unexpectable short moral life...


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