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#1 2010-06-25 09:45:12

Galoula
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Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Hi !

I wnat to install ArchLinux on my PC withOUT CD ROM.

I boot tu installer, partitionning my disk.

When I invited to select pakages, it's tell me to select mirror.

I NEVER use FTP. Only HTTP.

ALL HTTP Mirrors are down in the installer (It's connot found the "core/os/i686/packages.txt")

What mirror (custom) can I use ?

Thanks.

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#2 2010-06-25 10:48:40

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Your installer is out of date - packages.txt is deprecated, and no longer exists on Arch mirrors. Download the latest installer and boot it from a usb device.

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#3 2010-06-25 10:52:41

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Hi, where i can download only vmlinuz and initrd.gz for PXE boot (NO FTP link please :-)) ?

Thanks.

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#4 2010-06-25 10:58:58

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

You can not. What is the problem with ftp anyway? But there are loads of http mirrors, plus torrents, to choose from. You can select http mirrors once you got an uptodate install image running.

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#5 2010-06-25 11:04:32

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

I have an minimal Internet connexion, I have only 443 and 80 ports open.

And FTP isn't cached by my proxy.

HTTP is real universal, work on my phone, 3G, work, and home proxy.

FTP can work only if I in my friends : Work FTP not allowed, FTP blocker on 3Go, and FTP DATA don't work at my home, I hate FTP big_smile

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#6 2010-06-25 11:07:58

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Wiki search returns this and this - they may be of use to you.

Please search the wiki before asking for help here.

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#7 2010-06-25 11:11:04

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

I think he doesn't have an arch system installed yet. If so, then those guides won't help him.

@op: Maybe you've used debian? I remember they distributed the kernel img and initrd seperately and had instructions for building within another distro.

I doubt however it'd be as easy in arch since the boot sequence will be expecting unionfs mounts later on.

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#8 2010-06-25 11:14:21

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Your link, suppose you have ArchLinux, I don't have.

I just want to find REAL BOOT FILES AKA initrd.img and vmlinuz from PXE serveur (it's 12Mb) not 512Mb.

I can boot this file with my system.

All Linux PXE based with an Linux Kernel with more network driver and a minimal system try download trought network, into initrd.

Your link doesn't talk about that.

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#9 2010-06-25 11:16:19

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Galoula wrote:

I boot tu installer, partitionning my disk.

If you were able to boot the old installer, why can't you boot the new one? To put it another way - how did you boot the old installer?

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#10 2010-06-25 11:17:07

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

They don't distribute the kernel and initrd files.

You could try torrenting it and selecting only those files, but I doubt it'll be of any use since they are not meant to be used for straight pxe booting. They depend on those unionfs mounts.

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#11 2010-06-25 11:20:35

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

I downloadeed yesteday into HTTP mirror an ISO called "archlinux-2010.05-netinstall-i686.iso".

I extract fro isolinux directory initrd.img and vmlinux, I put on my FAT16Partition and lunch grub to run.

I have the minimal installer, but it can't find packages.txt files when he try download packages.

I search same files, updated.

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#12 2010-06-25 11:23:24

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Are you booting grub over pxe or locally

If it's over pxe, you need to add packages.txt to the share so that the client can see them

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#13 2010-06-25 11:23:34

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

As one of the wiki links says, you can get a kernel/initrd from archboot that works for pxe booting (net-install), But no way around downloading the iso and extracting it from there, either. I still don't really get why you want to go through the troubles of pxe booting though.

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#14 2010-06-25 11:23:38

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Galoula wrote:

I downloadeed yesteday into HTTP mirror an ISO called "archlinux-2010.05-netinstall-i686.iso".

I extract fro isolinux directory initrd.img and vmlinux, I put on my FAT16Partition and lunch grub to run.

I have the minimal installer, but it can't find packages.txt files when he try download packages.

I search same files, updated.

if you downloaded the netinstall iso, there are not packages on that iso. when starting the installer be sure you configure the network, choose ftp as source of packages and select a mirror.

Last edited by wonder (2010-06-25 11:24:04)


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#15 2010-06-25 11:26:07

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

I tell I CANNOT USE FTP OR TORRENT ONLY HTTP.

I have ONLY HTTP port  opened.

And I have network, with the older image extracted yesterday.

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#16 2010-06-25 11:29:13

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Lose the caps please. If you select FTP as install method, chosing a http mirror will still result in using http.

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#17 2010-06-25 11:31:16

Galoula
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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

I can't sue FTP to install, is I don't have FTP port opened !

It's logic ...

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#18 2010-06-25 11:31:25

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Galoula wrote:

I tell I CANNOT USE FTP OR TORRENT ONLY HTTP.

I have ONLY HTTP port  opened.

And I have network, with the older image extracted yesterday.

dude, I'm talking about the METHOD: http://ebalaskas.gr/gallery/Archlinux%2 … es/12.html

then it would come a list with mirrors in which you can select a ftp mirror or a http mirror

here is a tutorial with pictures for that: http://ebalaskas.gr/gallery/Archlinux%2 … 20install/

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#19 2010-06-25 11:32:35

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Have you tested that you can resolve names from the pxe client?

Since you're going to have to dowload the packages anyway... copy them into your hdd and save the trouble of configuring pxe boot plus two way routing?

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#20 2010-06-25 11:33:11

Galoula
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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

wonder wrote:
Galoula wrote:

I tell I CANNOT USE FTP OR TORRENT ONLY HTTP.

I have ONLY HTTP port  opened.

And I have network, with the older image extracted yesterday.

dude, I'm talking about the METHOD: http://ebalaskas.gr/gallery/Archlinux%2 … es/12.html

then it would come a list with mirrors in which you can select a ftp mirror or a http mirror

with my actual immage I have this screen, I select HTTP, but it tell "failed".

I go to the 5th console, I see it's counl'd download packages.txt files ...

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#21 2010-06-25 11:36:58

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

are you sure that is 2010.05 installer? what kernel does it have on it? (uname -a) .that packages.txt sounds like a 3 year old installer when pacman didn't used db.tar.gz arhives

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#22 2010-06-25 11:37:55

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

OK, you should not get any "packages.txt" errors with the 2010.05 netinstall image, as it is long deprecated. Could you double-check if this is the iso you extracted the files from? And I still did not really understand how you booted the install - pxe or grub? I found the archboot image on my drive and can give you the initrd/kernel files from these if you want, but it must work with the offical isos as well (I did a net install with them already)

to clarify: the packages.txt error has nothing to do with http/ftp

Last edited by hokasch (2010-06-25 11:38:56)

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#23 2010-06-25 11:39:57

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

hokasch wrote:

OK, you should not get any "packages.txt" errors with the 2010.05 netinstall image, as it is long deprecated. Could you double-check if this is the iso you extracted the files from? And I still did not really understand how you booted the install - pxe or grub? I found the archboot image on my drive and can give you the initrd/kernel files from these if you want, but it must work with the offical isos as well (I did a net install with them already)

The two aren't mutually exclusive
http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/GRUB … twork_boot

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#24 2010-06-25 11:43:27

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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

ah well, what I meant was using grub to load kernel/initrd from a connected drive vs booting with PXE, be it through grub or directly.

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#25 2010-06-25 12:25:43

Galoula
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Re: Arche linux netinstall FULL HTTP

Oops, sory, I extracted from this ISO :
Archlinux-i686-2008.03-1-archboot.ftp.iso

I just download this iso :
archlinux-2010.05-netinstall-i686.iso

I try this if it can be installation done.

For your informations :

My PC is an HTC SHIFT, I boot into USB with multi-OS (I don't have any CD-ROM), and on this USB I have Win/Debian/DOS and now ArchLinux.

It's in FAT16 or FAT32. I boot ntldr, who chain grub.mbr, who chain with extracted initrd.img and vmlinuz, with that I have NetWork, and I can install as same install PXE (with DHCP/TFTP serveur is this case).

I try new files I many hours, and tell you if it done.

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