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#1 2013-01-23 09:48:58

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[SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

When I load certain pages like Facebook I will get fonts that look like this:
Facebook fonts

I looked at the wiki which suggested I disable bitmap fonts but that didn't solve the problem. I looked at the DPI settings and they are at 96 as they are supposed to be. I enabled autohinting and I am still unable to fix the problem. I notice that when I first load the page the fonts look great but as soon as I scroll down the fonts look like the image. Any suggestions about how to fix this problem?

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#2 2013-01-23 09:52:07

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

rg_arc wrote:

When I load certain pages like Facebook I will get fonts that look like this:
Facebook fonts

Hmm that looks quite normal to me...

I looked at the wiki which suggested I disable bitmap fonts but that didn't solve the problem. I looked at the DPI settings and they are at 96 as they are supposed to be. I enabled autohinting and I am still unable to fix the problem. I notice that when I first load the page the fonts look great but as soon as I scroll down the fonts look like the image. Any suggestions about how to fix this problem?

Can you also post a before-screenshot, so that we can judge the difference?


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#3 2013-01-23 10:07:14

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#4 2013-01-23 10:24:37

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

Maybe my laptop display is too small (13.3" 1440x900), but i can hardly see a difference between the two.

Anyone else here perhaps?


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#5 2013-01-23 10:40:47

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

You can try install msfonts from AUR, but i doubt that makes a difference in this case. And also before looks better than after (more sharper).

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#6 2013-01-23 11:09:29

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

basically... it looks almost as if Firefox developed an astigmatism all of a sudden.

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#7 2013-01-23 13:16:07

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

Firefox 18 is bugged in this regard; the more you scroll, the more they blurs.
Seems it will be fixed by release 19; i'm still with 17.

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#8 2013-01-23 13:32:08

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

Does it happen with HWA disabled ?

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#9 2013-01-23 13:57:43

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

This happened to me when I was using KDE. I was told it was something called RGB bleed (whatever that is), but I had already switched back to xfce by that point so I never figured out what the solution was.


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#10 2013-01-23 20:34:09

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

hardware acceleration is disabled...

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#11 2013-01-23 20:34:59

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

CrashLog wrote:

This happened to me when I was using KDE. I was told it was something called RGB bleed (whatever that is), but I had already switched back to xfce by that point so I never figured out what the solution was.

well I am using xfce4 right now and this is happening.

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#12 2013-01-23 20:39:27

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

Dam, I'm on xfce4 as well. I had the same issue and I can't remember exactly what I did to solve. But it was solved. I think it was either listed here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fi … Appearance
... or maybe something on that page led me to the fix.

Also see: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p1058938

Sorry I could not be of much help. hmm

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#13 2013-01-23 20:44:06

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

hydn wrote:

Dam, I'm on xfce4 as well. I had the same issue and I can't remember exactly what I did to solve. But it was solved. I think it was either listed here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fi … Appearance
... or maybe something on that page led me to the fix.

Also see: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p1058938

Sorry I could not be of much help. hmm

I've already looked over those pages before and I can't find a solution.

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#14 2013-01-23 20:45:26

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

kokoko3k wrote:

Firefox 18 is bugged in this regard; the more you scroll, the more they blurs.
Seems it will be fixed by release 19; i'm still with 17.

So I guess maybe downgrading for a bit will fix the problem for now?

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#15 2013-01-23 21:02:59

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

I honestly can not see any difference.

as for the above comment of downgrading, another option would be to upgrade to the beta or alpha version (19/20) I'm using 20 (iceweasel) on debian right now, although using 18 on arch.

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#16 2013-01-24 08:59:47

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

For the record I can see the difference. It is slight, but yes. The after picture looks a little blurry.

May be overkill, but personally I gave up on trying to configure fonts a long time ago. Now I just install this package which configures all my fonts system-wide correctly. I have never had a problem with when using this. Owe, I also use Bitstream Viera Sans system wide and I do have the msfonts package installed

aur/cairo-ubuntu
extra/ttf-bitstream-vera

I don't use Facebook and do not have an account, so I can't really test my system. However, the landing page looks fine on my KDE 1366x768 laptop before and after scrolling.

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#17 2013-01-24 09:07:39

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

I love bitstream vera sans I have it installed as well. Also, I noticed that I have multilib/lib32-cairo installed along with the other cairo package. I don't know if that might have anything to do with the problem though.

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#18 2013-01-24 09:15:20

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

I honestly think its just something to do with Firefox itself... My system's fonts have always been top notch before the new Firefox update and everything seems just fine outside of Firefox anyways.

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#19 2013-01-24 10:38:31

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

rg_arc wrote:

I honestly think its just something to do with Firefox itself... My system's fonts have always been top notch before the new Firefox update and everything seems just fine outside of Firefox anyways.

Well, that could be.

Awe yes, cario and cairo-ubuntu is different. It is like the same packages with Ubuntu's patches, but what I really like about the package is that it also sets up all of the font.conf's


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#20 2013-01-24 10:49:07

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

I am using infinality's font config right now and its really neat. Have you used infinality before? Can you compare that to Ubuntu's?

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#21 2013-01-24 11:12:08

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

rg_arc wrote:

I am using infinality's font config

To actually get the benefit, one needs to compile firefox with --enable-system-cairo

Which requires cairo to be patched first. LFS has the expose patch. Which Arch doesn't include as standard.

Without both these changes, you are using the (ugly standard) cairo which was built during the firefox build.

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#22 2013-01-24 11:46:03

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

rg_arc wrote:

When I load certain pages like Facebook I will get fonts that look like this:
Facebook fonts

I looked at the wiki which suggested I disable bitmap fonts but that didn't solve the problem. I looked at the DPI settings and they are at 96 as they are supposed to be. I enabled autohinting and I am still unable to fix the problem. I notice that when I first load the page the fonts look great but as soon as I scroll down the fonts look like the image. Any suggestions about how to fix this problem?

Well, I had a similar issue with Opera, scrolling down on pages would give blurry images and fonts! what I did to solve it; choose another acceleration method! Take a look at this page on the wiki. I changed to 'uxa', and this solved all my scrolling problems. Hope it helps you too!)


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#23 2013-01-24 12:56:53

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

rg_arc wrote:
kokoko3k wrote:

Firefox 18 is bugged in this regard; the more you scroll, the more they blurs.
Seems it will be fixed by release 19; i'm still with 17.

So I guess maybe downgrading for a bit will fix the problem for now?

Here is the bug report, read it all because different users experiences different issues.
Mine was that scrolling the page up and down blurs the font.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828206

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#24 2013-01-24 13:03:29

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

brebs wrote:
rg_arc wrote:

I am using infinality's font config

To actually get the benefit, one needs to compile firefox with --enable-system-cairo

[OT]
I disagree, any Infinality setting i export before running firefox is correctly applied.
Maybe because (at least in firefox 17) the default azure backend is cairo?
-EDIT-
Ops, i didn't read well, are you talking just about fontconfig or other settings like filters, bold and so on?

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#25 2013-01-24 23:02:33

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Re: [SOLVED]Firefox fonts look horrible on certain pages like Twitter

kokoko3k wrote:

are you talking just about fontconfig

Hmm, it's not clear what the effect of --enable-system-cairo is, these days.

Anyway, using it, I don't see this bug, with nvidia 310.32

However, I have noticed slight firefox text corruption when scrolling with cairo versions later than 1.12.2, which is why I'm stuck on cairo 1.12.2 (with patches from Ubuntu, Arch, Gentoo & Fedora).

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