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fredbezies

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Registered: 2011-07-28

Posts: 353

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Just updated to 3.12 and works fine. Some nice changes in there, but the missing close button on Evince is irritating

Which missing close button ? Have it on Evince 3.12.0.

On fullscreen there is no close button.

Ok. But you still have the button menu with a close option in it

rainbowdashc

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Registered: 2013-09-30

Posts: 70

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Just a quick question: is networkmanager/network-manager-applet really a hard dependency of GS? If not, would it be possible to remove it from the dep list and make it optional?

phw

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Registered: 2013-05-27

Posts: 318

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Just a quick question: is networkmanager/network-manager-applet really a hard dependency of GS? If not, would it be possible to remove it from the dep list and make it optional?

AFAIK this used to be a hard dependency, but the Gnome 3.12 release notes mentioned something about it being optional now.

Dantix

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Registered: 2012-03-22

Posts: 7

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Is there screen flickering when you closing last application on workspace, and you see for a brief moment application from previous workspace. I've expirienced this in 3.10 with nvidia video card and proprietary drivers.

blackout23

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Registered: 2011-11-16

Posts: 781

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Is there screen flickering when you closing last application on workspace, and you see for a brief moment application from previous workspace. I've expirienced this in 3.10 with nvidia video card and proprietary drivers.

Not on my machine (also NVIDIA).

ooo

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Registered: 2013-04-10

Posts: 1,638

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

I noticed strange issue when using renoise in gnome 3.12: for some reason 'pop-up windows' like when you click on a menubar or similar widget wont display.
I tried running it in openbox and everything worked. I didn't try downgrading gnome but this never happened before the upgrade.

Anyone else having strange issues with opengl applications in gnome 3.12? or any clue what could cause such a behavior?

parad0x

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Registered: 2013-04-11

Posts: 13

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

It' no more beta but it's still in gnome-unstable so I'll ask my question in this thread.

now Gnome 3.12 works very well. but I can't run the wayland session.
here's the error logs from journalctl -r.

apr 04 16:04:57 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: Unrecoverable failure in required component gnome-shell-wayland.desktop
apr 04 16:04:57 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: gnome-session[5667]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell-wayland.desktop' exited with code 15
apr 04 16:04:57 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell-wayland.desktop' exited with code 15
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (gnome-shell-wayland:5679): mutter-ERROR **: Spurious exit of X Wayland server
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (gnome-shell-wayland:5679): mutter-WARNING **: WL: disconnect from client 0x3256680
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE)
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: for help.
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: at http://wiki.x.org
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE)
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE)
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE) Unrecognized option: -wayland
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: Fatal server error:
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE)

do I need xorg-server-git or compile xwayland support?

Last edited by parad0x (2014-04-04 14:14:44)

blackout23

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Registered: 2011-11-16

Posts: 781

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

It' no more beta but it's still in gnome-unstable so I'll ask my question in this thread.

now Gnome 3.12 works very well. but I can't run the wayland session.
here's the error logs from journalctl -r.

apr 04 16:04:57 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: Unrecoverable failure in required component gnome-shell-wayland.desktop
apr 04 16:04:57 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: gnome-session[5667]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell-wayland.desktop' exited with code 15
apr 04 16:04:57 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell-wayland.desktop' exited with code 15
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (gnome-shell-wayland:5679): mutter-ERROR **: Spurious exit of X Wayland server
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (gnome-shell-wayland:5679): mutter-WARNING **: WL: disconnect from client 0x3256680
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE)
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: for help.
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: at http://wiki.x.org
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE)
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE)
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE) Unrecognized option: -wayland
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: Fatal server error:
apr 04 16:04:56 scorpion gnome-session[5667]: (EE)

do I need xorg-server-git or compile xwayland support?

Yes, Gnome on Wayland won't work without XWayland.
All the intructions on builidng the open source DDXs with xwayland support and building X11 with xwayland module are outdated, though.
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthre … post409563

Last edited by blackout23 (2014-04-04 14:43:30)

Kopkins

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Registered: 2012-07-01

Posts: 189

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Does anyone know why gnome-terminal will not start with the following error and locale.

$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

$ gnome-terminal
Error creating terminal: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)

$ sudo gnome-terminal
Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Terminal: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process org.gnome.Terminal exited with status 1

Gyscos

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Registered: 2009-09-19

Posts: 33

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

I just activated gnome-unstable and the various testing repos, and tried the new gdm. It worked. I clicked on the "zoom" accessibility feature, and it crashed after a few seconds. Now, whenever I start gdm, it crashes. I guess it tries to re-apply the zoom. Can I manually disable this somewhere ?

I tried to look in gdm log, but only found :

Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Warning:          Compat map for group 2 redefined
>                   Using new definition
> Warning:          Compat map for group 3 redefined
>                   Using new definition
> Warning:          Compat map for group 4 redefined
>                   Using new definition
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server

repeating a couple times

EDIT: Just found it, it's in /var/lib/gdm. Removed the directory and now everything's back to normal

Last edited by Gyscos (2014-04-06 16:13:57)

GianLoop

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Registered: 2012-06-21

Posts: 4

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

And use this order for repositories, pasted from my /etc/pacman.conf

[gnome-unstable]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[testing]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[core]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community-testing]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

#[multilib-testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

#[multilib]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

Two quick question:
1) If I change pacman mirrorlist as above what should I do when GNOME 3.12 will be officially released?
2) How long will it take to GNOME to be officially released? (Approximately of course)

Thanks for helping me

clfarron4

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From: London, UK

Registered: 2013-06-28

Posts: 2,163

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Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

[snip...]

Two quick question:
1) If I change pacman mirrorlist as above what should I do when GNOME 3.12 will be officially released?
2) How long will it take to GNOME to be officially released? (Approximately of course)

Thanks for helping me

1) You don't need to do anything. GNOME 3.12 will just be in [extra].
2) When it's ready.

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Kopkins

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Registered: 2012-07-01

Posts: 189

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Two quick question:
1) If I change pacman mirrorlist as above what should I do when GNOME 3.12 will be officially released?
2) How long will it take to GNOME to be officially released? (Approximately of course)

Thanks for helping me

Already answered in this thread.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 5#p1399795

rainbowdashc

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Registered: 2013-09-30

Posts: 70

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Just a quick question: is networkmanager/network-manager-applet really a hard dependency of GS? If not, would it be possible to remove it from the dep list and make it optional?

AFAIK this used to be a hard dependency, but the Gnome 3.12 release notes mentioned something about it being optional now.

In addition, is p7zip really a hard dependency of file-roller? If not, could it be removed as hard dep? (Same goes for nm.)

swiftscythe

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Registered: 2009-04-28

Posts: 131

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

I've been using GNOME 3.12 for some days now, and this are the issues I found:
- When using an external display, multimedia and brightness keys don't work, and GNOME says something went wrong and forces me to log out
- I'm using GNOME on a ThinkPad X220 Tablet, and GNOME control center does not display Wacom settings (but it tells me that I need to calibrate the wacom every time I log in).
- I also noticed that when I start rhythmbox, both gnome-shell and rhythmbox consume 100% for 1 minute or so, after which rhythmbox becomes responsive, but uses 320 MB of RAM instead of the 90 MB it used on GNOME 3.10 (I've rebuilt rhythmbox against GNOME 3.12, but nothing changed)

Thanks for letting us test GNOME 3.12 easily

Thorsten Reinbold

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From: Germany

Registered: 2011-12-06

Posts: 353

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

@swiftscythe: there is a small pause (3-5 Seconds) when starting Rhythmbox. I can confirm this, but ram usage is at 93MB on my System.

hrdx

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Registered: 2014-03-11

Posts: 5

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Just some quick observations (this is more of a recap of new features, then a bug list, because it deals mostly with UX changes):
- headerbars everywhere (sometimes appearing with a clear delay, for example in nautilus properties dialog)
- shows brightness slider, even though i run it on a desktop
- overview is still somewhat choppy (finally you can use keyboard to navigate windows in overview), scrolling choppy (clear difference to say xfce, running on radeon here)
- terminal about window is non-modal
- alacarte is broken for me
- screenshot and some other dialogs / apps move close into a cancel button on top of the window on the left (big wtf)
- logging in somewhat smoother
- time dialog on top bar has a clickable date (above calendar) that does nothing (maybe it needs evolution, but who uses that anyway for calendars)
- search in overview shows icons for terminal, files, etc, even though no results ping (maybe it's zenity or whatever missing from gnome-shell deps)
- some apps display breadcumbs (files, system-monitor), some tabs - so there is some kind of inconsistency between all those
- polkit dialogs now have a large weirdo gradient effect around them (this one sucks)
- searchbars show up with noticable lag in files, settings, etc

also:

cursor hides when over terminal

Last edited by hrdx (2014-04-08 00:21:32)

ooo

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Registered: 2013-04-10

Posts: 1,638

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

- overview is still somewhat choppy (finally you can use keyboard to navigate windows in overview), scrolling choppy (clear difference to say xfce, running on radeon here)
- terminal about window is non-modal
- logging in somewhat smoother
- some apps display breadcumbs (files, system-monitor), some tabs - so there is some kind of inconsistency between all those

yep

- headerbars everywhere (sometimes appearing with a clear delay, for example in nautilus properties dialog)
- searchbars show up with noticable lag in files, settings, etc
cursor hides when over terminal

I havent seen any major lags with header- or searchbars (not using tracker if that matters).
also cursor displays fine on terminal for me.

- time dialog on top bar has a clickable date (above calendar) that does nothing (maybe it needs evolution, but who uses that anyway for calendars)

clicking it takes the mini-calendar to todays date at least for me.

LLStarks

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Registered: 2012-01-26

Posts: 22

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Hadn't been able upgrade Evolution to 3.12 because gtkspell3 was missing

All fine now

Last edited by LLStarks (2014-04-08 21:58:46)

HansAnderson

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Registered: 2013-12-17

Posts: 13

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Looks like all work fine.
But Systemmonitor unfortunately not work  on 3.12

Last edited by HansAnderson (2014-04-09 23:01:02)

blackout23

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Registered: 2011-11-16

Posts: 781

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Looks like all work fine.
But Systemmonitor unfortunately not work  on 3.12

What doesn't work for you? It starts up fine on my PC.

HansAnderson

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Registered: 2013-12-17

Posts: 13

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

i mean  gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet
tweack tool  > Extensions > Systemmonitor

Last edited by HansAnderson (2014-04-12 21:23:06)

rainbowdashc

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Registered: 2013-09-30

Posts: 70

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Just updated to 3.12 and works fine. Some nice changes in there, but the missing close button on Evince is irritating

Can confirm (with Evince fullscreen).

Looks like all work fine.
But Systemmonitor unfortunately not work  on 3.12

i meen  gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet
tweack tool  > Extensions > Systemmonitor

Worked fine for me.

Kopkins

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Registered: 2012-07-01

Posts: 189

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

If anyone's gnome terminal isn't working make sure that you have vte3 installed, right now it is in testing (13/4/14)

Last edited by Kopkins (2014-04-13 19:58:58)

beta990

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Registered: 2011-07-10

Posts: 207

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

When are you guys planning to shift Gnome 3.12 to stable repo's?
Yeah.. I know when it's done.
But is their something 'we' could do at the moment? Are things still being fixed or is there a freeze?

Thanks for your hard work guys!