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#1 2016-07-14 10:57:31

Severus Tux
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[SOLVED] Is my Arch downloading updates automatically ?

I am using Arch Linux with GNOME 3.20, I usually get update pop-ups on the top of my screen saying "System updates available", I usually ignore them. I update them after sometime when ever I get sufficient internet data.

But next time when I try to update using command line, Everything is already downloaded !!!! . Only installation is remaining. This is something I don't want.

[severus@Tux ~]$ sudo pacman -Su
[sudo] password for severus: 
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (4) appstream-glib-0.5.17-1  desktop-file-utils-0.23-1  freetype2-2.6.5-2  procps-ng-3.3.12-1

Total Installed Size:  9.26 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:      0.21 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] n 
[severus@Tux ~]$ sudo pacman -Su
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (4) appstream-glib-0.5.17-1  desktop-file-utils-0.23-1  freetype2-2.6.5-2  procps-ng-3.3.12-1

Total Installed Size:  9.26 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:      0.21 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] Y
(4/4) checking keys in keyring                                                             [####################################################] 100%
(4/4) checking package integrity                                                           [####################################################] 100%
(4/4) loading package files                                                                [####################################################] 100%
(4/4) checking for file conflicts                                                          [####################################################] 100%
(4/4) checking available disk space                                                        [####################################################] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/4) upgrading desktop-file-utils                                                         [####################################################] 100%
(2/4) upgrading freetype2                                                                  [####################################################] 100%
(3/4) upgrading appstream-glib                                                             [####################################################] 100%
(4/4) upgrading procps-ng                                                                  [####################################################] 100%
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/1) Updating manpage index...
[severus@Tux ~]$ 

As you can see above, There is no Net download size. This happens a lot of time.

Once, this happened : I had checked the net download size, it was 128MiB, I had little internet data, So I thought I will do that later, But when I checked later, Shockingly, It showed only 1.4MiB to be downloaded. What is happening on my system ??

Is it normal behaviour ?? How can I disable this?. I do not want my system to Download/Upload ANYTHING without my intervention.

Please help me solve this.

Thanks.

Last edited by Severus Tux (2016-07-14 11:14:52)

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#2 2016-07-14 11:02:06

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Re: [SOLVED] Is my Arch downloading updates automatically ?

How did you install Arch?

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#3 2016-07-14 11:03:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Is my Arch downloading updates automatically ?

Allan wrote:

How did you install Arch?

As given in Beginners guide, using command line.

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#4 2016-07-14 11:10:13

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Re: [SOLVED] Is my Arch downloading updates automatically ?

gnome-packagekit might be doing this perhaps? Or some other GUI update application you have installed.

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#5 2016-07-14 11:11:59

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Re: [SOLVED] Is my Arch downloading updates automatically ?

Thanks everyone big_smile

I solved the issue by setting Gnome-Software's download-updates to false ( I hope it is solved tongue )

$  gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false

This was a GNOME problem, not Arch specific.

Thanks anyway smile

Last edited by Severus Tux (2016-07-14 11:13:17)

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#6 2016-07-14 11:14:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Is my Arch downloading updates automatically ?

This is not normal behavior. This is actually explicitly unsupported behavior. If you can run "pacman -Su" to upgrade your system then something is running "pacman -Sy" (or apparently "pacman -Syuw"), which is a partial upgrade (new databases, old packages).

You have definitely installed or configured something to do this yourself, and only you can tell us what.

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Someone needs to tell GNOME that their downloader may break Arch systems and that it should leave the system databases alone without direct user intervention.

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#7 2016-07-14 11:24:31

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Re: [SOLVED] Is my Arch downloading updates automatically ?

Xyne wrote:

This is not normal behavior. This is actually explicitly unsupported behavior. If you can run "pacman -Su" to upgrade your system then something is running "pacman -Sy" (or apparently "pacman -Syuw"), which is a partial upgrade (new databases, old packages).

You have definitely installed or configured something to do this yourself, and only you can tell us what.


Thanks.

I have installed "gnome-software" , may be that is doing all this. I think, what I have done now has solved the issue. But I am not sure until next update.

This is all I have on my system (related to gnome)

severus@Tux ~]$ pacman -Q | grep gnome
gnome-backgrounds 3.20-1
gnome-bluetooth 3.20.0-1
gnome-builder 3.20.4-2
gnome-calculator 3.20.1-1
gnome-calendar 3.20.2-2
gnome-characters 3.20.1-1
gnome-chess 3.20.1-1
gnome-clocks 3.20.1-1
gnome-code-assistance 3.16.0-4
gnome-color-manager 3.20.0-1
gnome-contacts 3.20.0-1
gnome-control-center 3.20.1-1
gnome-desktop 1:3.20.2-1
gnome-devel-docs 3.20.2-1
gnome-dictionary 3.20.0-1
gnome-disk-utility 3.20.2-1
gnome-documents 3.20.0-1
gnome-font-viewer 3.20.2-1
gnome-getting-started-docs 3.20.0-1
gnome-keyring 1:3.20.0-1
gnome-logs 3.20.1-1
gnome-maps 3.20.1-1
gnome-menus 3.13.3-2
gnome-music 3.20.2-1
gnome-nettool 3.8.1-2
gnome-online-accounts 3.20.2-1
gnome-online-miners 3.20.0-1
gnome-photos 3.20.2-1
gnome-screenshot 3.20.1-1
gnome-session 3.20.1-1
gnome-settings-daemon 3.20.1+8+g40bf4fd-1
gnome-shell 3.20.3-1
gnome-shell-extensions 3.20.1-1
gnome-software 3.20.4-1
gnome-sound-recorder 3.20.2-1
gnome-system-log 3.9.90-1
gnome-system-monitor 3.20.1-1
gnome-terminal 3.20.2-1
gnome-themes-standard 3.20.2-1
gnome-todo 3.20.2-1
gnome-tweak-tool 3.20.1-1
gnome-user-docs 3.20.2-1
gnome-user-share 3.18.1-2
gnome-video-effects 0.4.1-1
gnome-weather 3.20.1-1
libgnome-keyring 3.12.0-2
libgnomekbd 3.6.0-3
[severus@Tux ~]$ 

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#8 2016-07-14 14:24:45

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Re: [SOLVED] Is my Arch downloading updates automatically ?

It has to be something running as root or system service, or you somehow gave it permission to write to the database. Either way that is a big no no a a good recipe for getting things borked.


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