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#1 2009-06-02 00:52:57

Vortex375
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unstable k3b alpha in extra

During the last full system upgrade, pacman installed extra/k3b 1.66.0alpha2-1. This is experimental alpha software. It crashes on my system every time I try to burn a CD and is thus completely unusable.

Why was this added to extra? In my humble opinion, it should clearly belong in testing and nowhere else.

Unfortunately a downgrade to the older k3b version was unsuccessful as the old version complains about missing libraries.


Should I file a BUG report on the Arch bug tracker for problems like this (unstable, not-working package being added to non-testing repo)?

Last edited by Vortex375 (2009-06-02 00:53:28)

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#2 2009-06-02 02:52:20

neowolf
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Re: unstable k3b alpha in extra

Not the first time not quite stable software's shown up, especially in regards to KDE4. I think a fair number of people are erring on the side of preferring something a little less stable that doesn't keep them clinging to KDE3 libraries. Though I haven't seen any official policy listed either way on this sort of thing.

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#3 2009-06-02 13:45:15

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Re: unstable k3b alpha in extra

Vortex375 wrote:

During the last full system upgrade, pacman installed extra/k3b 1.66.0alpha2-1. This is experimental alpha software. It crashes on my system every time I try to burn a CD and is thus completely unusable.

Why was this added to extra? In my humble opinion, it should clearly belong in testing and nowhere else.

Unfortunately a downgrade to the older k3b version was unsuccessful as the old version complains about missing libraries.


Should I file a BUG report on the Arch bug tracker for problems like this (unstable, not-working package being added to non-testing repo)?

I would try to find out why it crashes, and maby how to stop it from crashing, and then make a bug report with that info included.


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#4 2009-06-02 16:49:45

Vortex375
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Re: unstable k3b alpha in extra

Well, k3b does print a very verbose backtrace upon crashing:

Application: K3b (k3b), signal SIGSEGV
0x00007f02fc59dbc1 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
[Current thread is 0 (LWP 4693)]

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7f02ece61910 (LWP 4694)):
#0  0x00007f02fc5c6422 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f02fdf264e1 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f02fde5f651 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x00007f02fdbeb59a in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x00007f02fc5ccc3d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7f02e7fff910 (LWP 4713)):
#0  0x00007f02fdbf011d in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f02fde5f0d5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f02fde5f276 in QThread::sleep () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x00007f0303863c5f in K3b::MediaCache::PollThread::run () from /usr/lib/libk3b.so.6
#4  0x00007f02fde5f651 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#5  0x00007f02fdbeb59a in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x00007f02fc5ccc3d in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#7  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f0303f67760 (LWP 4693)):
[KCrash Handler]
#5  0x00007f030389f1c3 in K3b::BinImageWritingJob::writerStart () from /usr/lib/libk3b.so.6
#6  0x00007f030389fc88 in K3b::BinImageWritingJob::start () from /usr/lib/libk3b.so.6
#7  0x00007f030389f4b1 in K3b::BinImageWritingJob::qt_metacall () from /usr/lib/libk3b.so.6
#8  0x00007f02fdf57029 in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#9  0x00007f02fd19bbfc in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#10 0x00007f02fd1a2eae in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#11 0x00007f02fed86cc6 in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#12 0x00007f02fdf475cc in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#13 0x00007f02fdf480ba in QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendPostedEvents () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#14 0x00007f02fdf70bc3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#15 0x00007f02f96534ae in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#16 0x00007f02f9656bf8 in g_main_context_iterate () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#17 0x00007f02f9656d6c in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#18 0x00007f02fdf70836 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#19 0x00007f02fd23035e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x00007f02fdf45ea2 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#21 0x00007f02fdf46274 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#22 0x00007f02fd64bf6e in QDialog::exec () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#23 0x00000000005361c8 in _start ()

Doesn't really tell me much, though. Anyway, it's not that unusual for software versions marked as "alpha" to be unstable and crashy, right? wink Best thing I could do would be to submit this backtrace and associated information to the k3b bug tracker and hope for it to get fixed.

But that doesn't really solve the problem I was talking about, concerning Arch. I think versions "officialy" marked as alpha should never go anywhere else than testing. Many things in current KDE releases seem a bit premature, but in this case it's clearly an unfinished piece of software, not meant for productive use. Alpha software is for testing purposes only, that's why IMO it belongs into testing.

I'm more concerned about "fixing" the problem that unstable packages show up in the repos, rather than making alpha software work on my system.

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#5 2009-06-02 20:43:37

Jacek Poplawski
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Re: unstable k3b alpha in extra

Do you know why k3b can't detect my dvd burner anymore? It worked correctly before...

PS. There is no problem with gnomebaker for example

Last edited by Jacek Poplawski (2009-06-02 21:02:48)

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#6 2009-06-02 22:18:45

Ranguvar
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Re: unstable k3b alpha in extra

I would submit a bug report to them, Jacek.

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