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ash

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Registered: 2008-12-17

Posts: 134

performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

i have a box with

gigabyte ga-8ig1000mk mainboard
intel 865G graphics
celeron 2.6 cpu
512 M ram
arch linux

x does not start with xorg 1.5/intel or xorg 1.6/intel (video memory related error message)

kde 4 performance with xorg 1.6/intel-legacy is noticably lower than with xorg 1.4/intel

glxgears in its default window size gives 460 fps with xorg 1.4/intel and 300 fps with xorg 1.6/intel-legacy

currently the only way to have xorg 1.4 is

IgnorePkg = xf86-video-intel
IgnorePkg = intel-dri
IgnorePkg = glproto
IgnorePkg = xcb-proto
IgnorePkg = libxcb
IgnorePkg = libx11
IgnorePkg = dri2proto
IgnorePkg = libdrm
IgnorePkg = mesa
IgnorePkg = libgl
IgnorePkg = libxdamage
IgnorePkg = damageproto
IgnorePkg = xcb-util
IgnorePkg = gtk2
IgnorePkg = pango
IgnorePkg = libthai
IgnorePkg = libxinerama
IgnorePkg = libxcursor
IgnorePkg = libxklavier
IgnorePkg = xkeyboard-config
IgnorePkg = libxi
IgnorePkg = libxext
IgnorePkg = libx11
IgnorePkg = libxcb
IgnorePkg = xcb-proto
IgnorePkg = xextproto
IgnorePkg = inputproto
IgnorePkg = cairo
IgnorePkg = libpng
IgnorePkg = pixman
IgnorePkg = xf86-input-keyboard
IgnorePkg = xf86-input-mouse
IgnorePkg = xf86-video-vesa
IgnorePkg = libfontenc
IgnorePkg = freetype2
IgnorePkg = fontsproto
IgnorePkg = libxfont
IgnorePkg = xproto
IgnorePkg = xorg-font-utils
IgnorePkg = xorg-fonts-encodings
IgnorePkg = xorg-fonts-alias
IgnorePkg = expat
IgnorePkg = fontconfig
IgnorePkg = xorg-fonts-100dpi
IgnorePkg = xorg-fonts-75dpi
IgnorePkg = libxau
IgnorePkg = libxdmcp
IgnorePkg = xcb-proto
IgnorePkg = libxcb
IgnorePkg = kbproto
IgnorePkg = inputproto
IgnorePkg = bigreqsproto
IgnorePkg = libx11
IgnorePkg = xextproto
IgnorePkg = libxext
IgnorePkg = libice
IgnorePkg = libsm
IgnorePkg = libxt
IgnorePkg = libxmu
IgnorePkg = libxpm
IgnorePkg = printproto
IgnorePkg = libxp
IgnorePkg = libxaw
IgnorePkg = xorg-res-utils
IgnorePkg = libxkbfile
IgnorePkg = libxkbui
IgnorePkg = xf86miscproto
IgnorePkg = libxxf86misc
IgnorePkg = xf86vidmodeproto
IgnorePkg = libxxf86vm
IgnorePkg = xcursor-themes
IgnorePkg = xorg-xkb-utils
IgnorePkg = xkeyboard-config
IgnorePkg = fontcacheproto
IgnorePkg = libxfontcache
IgnorePkg = libxi
IgnorePkg = liblbxutil
IgnorePkg = renderproto
IgnorePkg = libxrender
IgnorePkg = randrproto
IgnorePkg = libxrandr
IgnorePkg = trapproto
IgnorePkg = libxtrap
IgnorePkg = mcpp
IgnorePkg = xtrans
IgnorePkg = xorg-server-utils
IgnorePkg = xf86dgaproto
IgnorePkg = libxxf86dga
IgnorePkg = recordproto
IgnorePkg = libxtst
IgnorePkg = xineramaproto
IgnorePkg = libxinerama
IgnorePkg = videoproto
IgnorePkg = libxv
IgnorePkg = dmxproto
IgnorePkg = libdmx
IgnorePkg = libxft
IgnorePkg = xorg-utils
IgnorePkg = libdrm
IgnorePkg = xorg-fonts-misc
IgnorePkg = pixman
IgnorePkg = xbitmaps
IgnorePkg = xorg-server
IgnorePkg = xorg-twm
IgnorePkg = xorg-xauth
IgnorePkg = xorg-xinit
IgnorePkg = fixesproto
IgnorePkg = libxfixes
IgnorePkg = libxcursor
IgnorePkg = libpng
IgnorePkg = xorg-apps
IgnorePkg = xterm

i want a better solution

Last edited by ash (2009-04-19 22:48:49)

DonVla

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From: Bonn, Germany

Registered: 2007-06-07

Posts: 997

Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

Arch Rollback Machine
http://arm.nrk.cc/
or you can create a metapackage of these packages with metapax. AUR -> metapax

vlad

Last edited by DonVla (2009-04-19 22:52:11)

ash

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Registered: 2008-12-17

Posts: 134

Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

there is gtk2 in the ignore pkgs. i think i dont have to explain the consequences

ash

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Registered: 2008-12-17

Posts: 134

Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

thx i'll try that

any other solutions ? (like how to get more from x 1.6 or downgrade only part of it to 1.4)

Last edited by ash (2009-04-21 02:10:29)

b9anders

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Registered: 2007-11-07

Posts: 691

Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

you do not need nearly as many packages on hold. Haven't logged into my 32-bit arch install for a month now, but I've maintained a xorg 1.4 install with this line just fine:

IgnorePkg  = xf86-video-intel xf86-input-evdev xorg-server xorg-apps xorg-xkb-utils xorg-server-utils xorg-utils intel-dri synaptics libgl libdrm xorg-res-utils xf86driproto xf86-input-keyboard xkeyboard-config

That said, I expext to upgrade next time I use it (probably to play around with some fast boot). I would look into troubleshooting with the latest xorg and intel driver as it really should work, if I were you. I presume you have already tried starting x without a xorg.conf as a baseline test with those versions?

ash

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Registered: 2008-12-17

Posts: 134

Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

i play all the time with xorg 1.6

did not get it to work at all with intel

did not get any close to the 1.4 performance with intel legacy

kokoko3k

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Registered: 2008-11-14

Posts: 2,393

Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

Hi ash, i've the same problem, did you managed to find a solution?

Also, when i tried to switch to 2.2.29 kernel from 2.6.27 (xorg 1.4 and intel 2.3.2), i've had stability issues when switching from console to X (with compiz), have you experienced something similar/what kernel are you using now?

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Ronin-Sage

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Registered: 2008-10-24

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Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

Try kernel-2.6.30 from [core], if you already haven't, and the latest graphics-related packages from [extra].

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kokoko3k

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Registered: 2008-11-14

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Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

Didn't the new intel drivers dropped overlay support and have lower performances that xorg1.4+intel-2.3.2?
Also i heard that there are troubles resuming from suspend.

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Lexion

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Registered: 2008-03-23

Posts: 510

Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

Try setting the DRI mode to 0666 in your xorg.conf, it increased performance for me.  One way to test if it will help is if apps run as root run at higher FPS.  A good test app is glxgears.

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Ronin-Sage

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Re: performance decrease with xorg 1.6 and intel

Performance for me(945GM) is actually on par with the old Q2 2008 packages(in other words, the best it can get) with kernel-2.6.30. Resume from suspend is an issue, though, and I'm not sure of a fix assuming one exists.

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