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#1 2009-08-06 23:17:05

Ranguvar
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bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

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I am running Xcompmgr (as you can see by the window shadows) and PekWM. bmpanel is compiled with compositing support (0.9.x, couldn't get bmpanel2 to compile). But whenever I start bmpanel, my wallpaper moves up to make room and leaves a black space. This does not happen with simpler bmpanel themes that don't have pieces extending off the panel.

As you can see in the screenshot, I'm looking at a screenshot of someone else who has managed to get it working correctly. No clue how, though. The screenshot also contains the CLI feedback.

I'm setting the wallpaper with feh --bg-scale, do I need to use something else? Running feh again after bmpanel doesn't change anything.

Thanks!

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#2 2009-08-07 06:52:41

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

i thought there was an issue , when you didnt use xcompgr or compiz with that theme. What if you try it without compositing.  feh should never be the issue.

Nevermind i saw the terminal output , wich just gave the answer.  The trayer in the panel can't be used with compositing. so use  another theme

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#3 2009-08-07 11:37:15

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

Have you tried doing the same in another window manager ? Openbox, for instance ?
There seem to be a load of apps that don't work quite well with PekWM (probably because of a lack of proper EWMH support, at least that's my impression)

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#4 2009-08-07 22:02:41

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

Thanks for the help.

Haven't tried another WM, no. Blackbox a long while ago, and Openbox but I dropped it once I saw how much XML would be involved in my life tongue
I tried another seemingly transparent theme, tint (see here: http://i43.tinypic.com/10y2jwp.jpg). That does work, but it works even with xcompgr dead. The Arch theme has the black gap effect still, too -- but I didn't bother to recompile bmpanel without compositing, not sure if that would make a difference anyways.
I know PekWM doesn't have full EWMH support, yeah -- I hope this changes soon, whether it's the problem or not

PekWM development seems stalled, though, especially for 0.2.0..

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#5 2009-08-07 22:33:28

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

I used to have this exact problem with bmpanel with this exact theme. What I did was turn compositing off, run the panel, then turn it on again and everything worked fine.

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#6 2009-08-07 22:37:21

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

Did you try setting the wallpaper another way such as using nitrogen?

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#7 2009-08-08 09:57:18

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

wankel wrote:

I used to have this exact problem with bmpanel with this exact theme. What I did was turn compositing off, run the panel, then turn it on again and everything worked fine.

Turn compositing off as in no xcompmgr, or as in disabled in the bmpanel build? Or both?

@Acecero: Nope. I will try soon.

EDIT: I am using bmpanel2 now, got it to compile. Unfortunately, it does not appear to support theming, at least for me. I'll test with that, and then try fixes recommended above. Thanks smile

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#8 2009-08-08 10:52:57

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

Ranguvar wrote:

http://h.imagehost.org/t/0515/2009-08-0 … _scrot.jpg

I am running Xcompmgr (as you can see by the window shadows) and PekWM. bmpanel is compiled with compositing support (0.9.x, couldn't get bmpanel2 to compile). But whenever I start bmpanel, my wallpaper moves up to make room and leaves a black space. This does not happen with simpler bmpanel themes that don't have pieces extending off the panel.

As you can see in the screenshot, I'm looking at a screenshot of someone else who has managed to get it working correctly. No clue how, though. The screenshot also contains the CLI feedback.

I'm setting the wallpaper with feh --bg-scale, do I need to use something else? Running feh again after bmpanel doesn't change anything.

Thanks!

I hadte same issue, i wanted that bmpanel theme, and a trayer, but i couldnt use both, so i stoped using bmpanel, im hoping that they will be able to use compozing and have a trayer at the same time, then i will start using it again


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#9 2009-08-08 20:11:31

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

Looked around, apparently PekWM just doesn't like compositing in general. It could be a flaw in xcompmgr, but more likely PekWM. This also explains why shading windows when xcompmgr is on creates graphical glitches.

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#10 2009-08-08 20:28:43

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

I never did like pekWM because of all that breakage....openbox still reigns supreme in the floating window manager ring


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#11 2009-08-09 02:16:59

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

moljac024 wrote:

I never did like pekWM because of all that breakage....openbox still reigns supreme in the floating window manager ring

[ranguvar@box tmp] tar xf openbox-3.4.7.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
[ranguvar@box tmp] wc etc/xdg/openbox/*.xml
  399   573  9732 menu.xml
  703  1969 21461 rc.xml
 1102  2542 31193 total

1,102 lines of XML in the default config beg to differ tongue So does the lack of tabbing. I may force myself to use it though, just until I have time to really dig into tiling WMs. Anyways, this topic's basically done, no PekWM vs Openbox is necessary wink I'll check back every now and then, and bump this thread again if I get PekWM compositing to work.

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#12 2009-08-09 02:35:57

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

I don't know what your problem is with XML. Don't you like having your eyeballs poked at with toothpicks? That's not fun to you?

I believe that fluxbox has tabbed windows. It certainly has much more digestible config files.

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#13 2009-08-09 04:52:03

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

skottish wrote:

I don't know what your problem is with XML. Don't you like having your eyeballs poked at with toothpicks? That's not fun to you?

I believe that fluxbox has tabbed windows. It certainly has much more digestible config files.

I know, right? I'm just plain weird.

I tried Flux a little while ago, might go with it again... I really don't know. We shall see big_smile So many options...

In any case, my choice of WM isn't the topic, so until someone gets compositing working right in PekWM, this thread's probably done.

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#14 2009-08-09 07:50:03

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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

Ranguvar wrote:
wankel wrote:

I used to have this exact problem with bmpanel with this exact theme. What I did was turn compositing off, run the panel, then turn it on again and everything worked fine.

Turn compositing off as in no xcompmgr, or as in disabled in the bmpanel build? Or both?

@Acecero: Nope. I will try soon.

EDIT: I am using bmpanel2 now, got it to compile. Unfortunately, it does not appear to support theming, at least for me. I'll test with that, and then try fixes recommended above. Thanks smile

I turned off compositing in the bmpanel theme file. Not sure if you already tried that. Also, this exact issue happened to me using compiz standalone, so Im sure it doesnt have anything to do with PekWM. Although that is a possibility. Good luck smile

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#15 2009-08-09 09:18:19

Ranguvar
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Re: bmpanel creates a black gap between my wallpaper and the panel

Actually, I'm using Compiz standalone right now, and it's working great.

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