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#1 2009-07-30 10:03:00

mefiX
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Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

Hi Folks,

I'm using Firefox 3.5 from extra and it is so damn slow under KDE 4.2.4, compositing enabled (Intel GFX, Driver version xf86-video-intel 2.8.0 from AUR, KMS on, Kernel 2.6.30).
Furthermore I installed "extra/gtk-qt-engine 1.1-1" to get a good integration into the look&feel of KDE.
The application itself has a normal performance, but the menus are very laggy.

In addition to gtk-qt-engine I've tried "community/gtk-kde4", but that seemed to make things even worse hmm
I think that those gtk-qt engines are to blame, but I don't know where to search for issues/problems.

Another thing is: If I say "Use my KDE style/fonts in GTK Applications" in KDE system settings dialog, Firefox looks as follows
ff35.png
Whats happening here?

Is there any known trick, to get a decent performance in Firefox 3.5 under KDE 4.2?

Best regards,
mefiX

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#2 2009-07-30 10:08:22

Changaco
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Re: Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

Instead of using gtk-qt-engine you'd better install gtk-chtheme to change the GTK theme for a more KDE4 like. For example gtk-kde42-oxygen-theme in AUR.

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#3 2009-07-30 10:19:24

mefiX
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Re: Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

Thanks for this hint.

There're even more themes that seem to fit:

- oxygen-molecule-theme
- gtk-kde42-oxygen-theme
- gtk-kde4-oxygen-theme

But, unfortunately I figured out that the menus of Firefox are also very laggy without any gtk-qt-engine stuff turned on!

Greetings,
mefiX

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#4 2009-07-30 12:08:22

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Re: Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

I just use QTCURVE as a theme, it has a native KDE3, KDE4 and GTK theme giving a constant look all around plus it is better looking then oxygen imho (especially when set to AQUA).

stefan ~ $  pacman -Ss qtcurve
extra/qtcurve-gtk2 0.66.0-1 (qtcurve)
    A configurable set of widget styles for KDE and Gtk
extra/qtcurve-kde3 0.66.0-1 (qtcurve)
    A configurable set of widget styles for KDE and Gtk
extra/qtcurve-kde4 0.66.1-1 (qtcurve)
    A configurable set of widget styles for KDE and Gtk

about performance, did you disable the Ipv6 stuff in about:config? when i used FF i noticed ipv6 dns was on by default and really slowing it down. I since switched to Opera10 which is *way* faster and has a native QT4 build instead of FF's GTK.

stefan ~ $  yaourt -Ss opera-snapshot
archlinuxfr/opera-snapshot 4502-1 [installed]
     The Weekly Build of Opera web browser

stefan

Last edited by stefan1975 (2009-07-30 12:10:15)


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#5 2009-07-31 07:47:41

mefiX
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Re: Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

Hi,

thanks for your hint about IPv6 in about:config, i will try that later, when I'm @home.

I've already tested Opera and I confirm that it's way faster than FF.
But imho it's also way more ugly than FF hmm
I applied several themes to it, but what keeps ugly is the menu. I thought it's a native QT4 application, so why is its integration into KDE4 so bad?

Currently it looks like the following:
opera.png
The theme is "opera oxygen project"
As one can see, the menu has correct layout, but crappy colors and fonts.

Greetings,
mefiX

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#6 2009-07-31 08:25:55

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Re: Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

well i use opera10 beta2 from archlinux.fr and use the default opera theme (not the one called qt4 native), it doesn't 100% integrate into kde oxygen or qtcurve that way but I think it looks pretty cool, and the default theme is way more appealing to me then the default FF theme is. The default theme is this one:

http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/i/z5/rv/2009 … _turbo.jpg

but then appearance is very personal. I just love the fact it is so much faster then FF and has lots more features ootb (in a smaller download) and with the opera-link feature syncing my speedial and favourites and Fanboys addblock.ini I really don't miss anything from FF anymore.

i think a lot of "home-made-themes" haven't been updated to opera10 yet and with oper10 being relatively new there are not a lot of good themers for it either.

s.

Last edited by stefan1975 (2009-07-31 08:28:22)


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#7 2009-08-03 14:07:26

mefiX
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Re: Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

Besides the eye-candy stuff my actual problem is still there.

Firefox is damn slow under kde 4.3 and i don't know whats going on.
Under GNOME, everything works as expected, FF is fast.

I turned off IPv6 features, no change.

Any further tips?

Greetings,
mefiX

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#8 2009-08-05 03:27:05

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Re: Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

I seem to have the exact same problem recently. Not sure what caused it. It wasn't like this when I first updated to Firefox 3.5. Opening new tabs on javascript heavy sites also seem to lag the whole app.

Just a couple of things you might wanna try. Rename firefox and KDE profile to start anew(without firefox extensions etc.) . Disable compositing in Xorg.

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#9 2009-08-13 02:54:26

onguarde
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Re: Firefox 3.5 damn slow under KDE 4.2

Ahh managed to solved it. It seems to be a "lag" problem with the flashgot extension possibly after updating. 1 more reason not to update frequently I guess.

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