To hal or not to hal?

kanguro · 2011-04-28 22:35:37

Hi, i've recently installed arch afer a a year of using Ubuntu (y had previously used arch) and i have a problem with Hal.

I installed Hal because arch (or kde) didn't show up or didn't mount any usb device. The device notifier does nothing and when i go to /media nothing apears.

The problem is that when I was Not using Hal y could use PCM as master channel, but when i added hal and dbus to rc.conf y couldn't use the tray mixer to turn up and down the volume. PCM does not appear any more and it cant be added as master chanel.

And then, when i start arch y can see now my two ntfs partitions mounted automatically but does nothing if i connect a pendrive or whatever.

Can anybody help me? Thanks!

PD: if you see some orthographyc mistakes i really sorry, i'm form Argentina and have passed two years since i had my last english class :S

Meyithi · 2011-04-28 22:43:28

I very much doubt you need hal

pacman -Qi hal | grep Required

will probably return nothing, which means nothing needs it and it's not doing anything.

kanguro · 2011-04-28 22:45:52

Oh, yeap, it returned NONE

Xyne · 2011-04-28 23:11:28

Shakespear wrote:

To hal, or not to hal, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to update
The packages and programs of outdated coding,
Or to take arms against the sea of packages,
And by pacman.conf ignore them? To upgrade, to sync.
No more; and by a sync to say we -Sy
The data-base, and the thousand metadata entries
That Pacman is heir to: 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To upgrade, to sync;
...

kanguro · 2011-04-28 23:44:27

Hahaha, great!!! nice lines... i didn't think upgrade would be the solution because i installed arch two years ago and i installed core... im gonna try with Syu and then told ya

kanguro · 2011-04-29 00:23:38

I upgraded but there's nothing to do...

Lone_Wolf · 2011-04-29 13:28:07

Meyithi wrote:

I very much doubt you need hal
pacman -Qi hal | grep Required
will probably return nothing, which means nothing needs it and it's not doing anything.

Not entirely true, replacing the fuctionality HAL offerered is a work in progress .
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DeviceKit

kanguro · 2011-04-30 02:45:56

Yes, but, i downloaded HAL once i had my entire system working "well" and then y had the audio problem and it still didn't apear devices notificacions exept 2 ntfs partitions. Maybe a KDE problem?

admiralspark · 2011-04-30 10:31:38

Are you sure you have the necessary tools installed to see the partitions? This sounds more like some KDE service or filesystem package is missing, though I don't know what that would be. I use KDE without hal and have zero issues with devices being picked up. Also, KDE doesn't automount devices by default, you have to click the icon in the Device notifier menu.
Does lsusb show any devices plugged in? If so, does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb' give feedback? Assuming sdb is your usb device.

Primoz · 2011-04-30 13:04:12

Also you can set KDE to automount in system settings -> removable devices.

TheSaint · 2011-04-30 14:03:37

ps -A |grep hal
 3188 ?        00:00:00 hald
 3189 ?        00:00:00 hald-runner
 3218 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-inpu
 3221 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-rfki
 3231 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-gene
 3232 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-gene
 3242 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-stor
 3243 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-stor
 3245 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-cpuf
 3246 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi
 3247 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi
 3248 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi

Aren't they necessary?

EDIT
Lately I removed it, KDE 4.6 doesn't give any sign of problems.

Last edited by TheSaint (2011-05-08 07:46:18)

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#1 2011-04-28 22:35:37

To hal or not to hal?

#2 2011-04-28 22:43:28

Re: To hal or not to hal?

#3 2011-04-28 22:45:52

Re: To hal or not to hal?

#4 2011-04-28 23:11:28

Re: To hal or not to hal?

#5 2011-04-28 23:44:27

Re: To hal or not to hal?

#6 2011-04-29 00:23:38

Re: To hal or not to hal?

#7 2011-04-29 13:28:07

Re: To hal or not to hal?

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#9 2011-04-30 10:31:38

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