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#26 2007-02-04 18:15:13

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Re: VirtualBox and Arch... Howto?

ran chmod 666 /dev/vboxdrv only user guide says this is not a good idea, but it was the only way I could start guest system

is there any other way to set it up safely ?


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#27 2007-02-04 19:01:37

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Re: VirtualBox and Arch... Howto?

Mr Green: dev86 and iasl dependencies are in AUR too.

And btw. you don't have to chmod anything, you only have to be in virtualbox group and right permissions on /dev/vboxdrv are set automatically by dbus (but you must restart dbus before loading vboxdrv module... or simply reboot).

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#28 2007-02-04 19:47:42

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Re: VirtualBox and Arch... Howto?

 ls -la vboxdrv 
crw-rw-rw- 1 root virtualbox 10, 63 2007-02-04 18:14 vboxdrv

no I see dev86 & iasl in aur its just that for some reason aurbuild did not pick them up

I am part of vboxusers

 [ ~ ] > groups
disk video audio optical floppy storage scanner camera users sound lighttpd abs vboxusers

did reboot [may have omitted to load module!]

Anyway fired up virtual drive [Knoppix all I have on my drive!] booted fine

Will check permissions on next reboot ...

Thanks for your help

Off to test 0.8 ;-)

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#29 2007-02-04 21:13:55

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Mr Green: Well, aurbuild isn't officially supported tool by Arch Linux. I don't know how good or bad is it on picking and building dependencies which are only in AUR, not in [community] repo.

And about that permissions problem - you shouldn't be in 'vboxusers' group, but in 'virtualbox' group. Did you read what it states after installation?

 --> In order to run VirtualBox, you have to
 --> be in the 'virtualbox' group.

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#30 2007-02-04 21:44:17

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aaarrrggfgffgfgf!!!!! lol

I read the user manual .... not like me at all

thanks again

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#31 2007-02-05 10:51:36

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Re: VirtualBox and Arch... Howto?

i cant get networking to work with this, if i select nat i do get an ip but nothing works, if i create a bridge, i dont get an ip.. ): any ideas?

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#32 2007-02-05 11:03:59

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@hacosta: Are you using networkmanager? I got the same problem with virtualbox/qemu. I think this is a bug in the networkmanager-package; there is something wrong with setting the route.

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#33 2007-02-05 11:12:28

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I have the same problem, thanks for pointing out the reason! Do you know any workaround, except not using Networkmanager? Is there any bugreport on this somewhere?

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#34 2007-02-05 17:55:19

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Re: VirtualBox and Arch... Howto?

0.8 loaded but running installer drive is not partitioned/filesystem is not set up ... no drive is found

0.7.2 worked fine but of course its way out of date & to update is as large as base iso ;-(

Anyone got 0.8 working under VirtualBox

As for network works fine here


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#35 2007-02-05 20:35:45

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whooo! the problem is networkmanager.. which suck.. but at least i got it to run
thanks Pierre

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#36 2007-02-06 02:17:05

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Re: VirtualBox and Arch... Howto?

Mr Green wrote:

0.8 loaded but running installer drive is not partitioned/filesystem is not set up ... no drive is found

modprobe piix

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#37 2007-02-06 07:09:08

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Ahhh thanks ;-)


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#38 2007-02-06 17:56:33

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yeah I am getting that error .... maybe rtc ....


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#39 2007-02-08 08:57:12

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Mikos wrote:

In fact [VirtualBox] should have also better performance than hardware virtualization (KVM or Xen on Intel VT-x / AMD-V CPUs).

That sounds kinda crazy to me.
Pure software virtualization faster than with a hardware helper?
I call *boggle* on that!


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#40 2007-02-08 16:32:53

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Here on my windows machine, qemu with the kqemu (yeah, it's a Windows service too) is leaps and bounds faster than virtualbox.

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#41 2007-02-11 01:26:30

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i'm trying to install XP in virtualbox, but it doesn't accept any keyboard input!  it got through the terminal install part, but now that it's in the GUI part of the install, i can't enter in a product key!  any ideas?  thanks.

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#42 2007-02-11 07:35:29

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just a thought did you hit Ctrl ? [the Right side one!]


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#43 2007-02-11 19:36:19

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it appears to work again now.  2 possibilities...
1) the install screwed up, and maybe saving/restoring state messed things up, or a hard reset screwed up the install and couldn't recover
2) maybe i forgot to boot up with watchdog disabled in the boot options.

either way, it appears to work now...finishing up the install now.

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#44 2007-02-11 20:16:53

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another problem tongue
i can't get NAT working.  are there certain permissions i should be checking?  i can ping the gateway, but i can't resolve hostnames or ping any DNS servers.  thanks.

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#45 2007-02-11 21:29:41

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@hypermegachi:
Are you using networkmanager? try disabling it, i had the same problem until Pierre suggested i d that.

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#46 2007-02-11 22:19:44

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hmmm...i should really read the entire thread before posting my problem....
getting rid of NM fixed the problem tongue

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#47 2007-02-14 14:19:00

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Re: VirtualBox and Arch... Howto?

Quick question see that virtual box supports usb does anyone have usb support under Arch package?


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#48 2007-02-15 09:56:57

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Mr Green wrote:

Quick question see that virtual box supports usb does anyone have usb support under Arch package?

Only commercial edition supports USB, but my Arch packages are for Open Source edition only. And I don't want to create packages for commercial edition (call me Free Software zealot if you want tongue).

Btw. according to one of InnoTek developers, USB support will be exported to Open Source edition in future (at least he said it once on IRC).

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#49 2007-02-16 20:25:52

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Ok I have loaded XP under qemu I get fullscreen not got usb yet... but I am guessing it will work now for me its slower running under qemu [with kqemu!] maybe I have not got it set up correctly to me Virtuabox runs much faster

Now where is that Freebsd disc........?


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#50 2007-04-04 15:26:57

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cactus wrote:
Mikos wrote:

In fact [VirtualBox] should have also better performance than hardware virtualization (KVM or Xen on Intel VT-x / AMD-V CPUs).

That sounds kinda crazy to me.
Pure software virtualization faster than with a hardware helper?
I call *boggle* on that!

Yes, VirtualBox devs even wrote info about this.
The problem with current hardware implementation is that it's not very effective, i.e. it doesn't allow nested pages, so there are noticeable speed losses during context switching.
However VirtualBox uses hardware virtualization features, but only those that really speeds things up comparing to software hacks.


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