Gnome 2.28 occasionally crashes back to gdm login screen!

graysky · 2009-10-17 14:16:42

loafer wrote:

I have never modified "/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi". I have commented out the line in innitab as suggested by insanemal. Now to wait and see.

The inittab line won't help with this stability issue. I believe it will prevent your gnome from spawning on tty2.

loafer · 2009-10-17 14:33:05

insanemal's suggestion is that it may be caused by the getty respawning on tty2 and kicking gnome off, which is why I am giving it a shot. This happened a few months ago too and there were a couple of threads and a bug report about it then.

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edingc · 2009-10-17 18:08:10

Good to know I'm not the only one having this problem.

I had no problems with the earlier version of GNOME. This release has been very buggy on both my laptop and netbook.

lgolebio · 2009-10-17 18:36:06

Same problem here as well Gnome crashes with no reason and it goes back to gdm login. Waiting for solution how to solve it....

loafer · 2009-10-17 18:44:09

@Igolebio, check to see if your GDM is spawning on tty2. If so, that may be the cause.

edit: spelling

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qzchenwl · 2009-10-18 05:29:29

I have met this problem too.
The common thing is that I pressed key '2' or '@' before the X crashed each time.

lgolebio · 2009-10-18 07:46:08

Funny thing, even if I comment the line in /etc/inittab....

#c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 tty2 linux

...after reboot gnome still runs in tty2. WTF ?

Shauros · 2009-10-18 09:27:56

I've been running 2.28 for several days without issues.

Maybe someone could show Xorg logs?
grep '$EE\|WW$' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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lgolebio · 2009-10-18 09:33:09

[lukasz@xpsm1530 ~]$ grep '$EE\|WW$' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Current Operating System: Linux xpsm1530 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Oct 13 13:36:23 CEST 2009 i686
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi".
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi".
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER

graysky · 2009-10-18 09:34:06

qzchenwl wrote:

I have met this problem too.
The common thing is that I pressed key '2' or '@' before the X crashed each time.

Interesting... I too just experienced the crash and I was typing a list with numbers 1-4 in it. Guess what, it crashed as I typed #2!

graysky · 2009-10-18 09:34:40

Shauros wrote:

I've been running 2.28 for several days without issues.
Maybe someone could show Xorg logs?
grep '$EE\|WW$' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

$ grep '\(EE\|WW\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Current Operating System: Linux novelty 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Oct 13 11:33:39 CEST 2009 x86_64
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(EE) Microsoft Natural® Ergonomic Keyboard 4000: failed to initialize for relative axes.

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toketin · 2009-10-18 10:28:13

i had your same crash in less than 24hours between yestrday evening and this morning when i was writing with Geany and X had crashed down, now i disable gdm from daemon and use the simple startx commad to run X

graysky · 2009-10-18 10:38:15

@toketin - not an option on a multiuser system... there has to be a cause and fix for this

graysky · 2009-10-18 10:52:37

Well, one can downgrade back to the older gdm package and everything seems to work! (Credit to overlord_manny in this thread - see post #51).

Get it from the following repo:
(x64_86) - http://www.schlunix.org/archlinux/extra … pkg.tar.gz
(i686) - http://www.schlunix.org/archlinux/extra … pkg.tar.gz

# pacman -U gdm-2.20.10-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz

You can now use gdmsetup to configure it as before.

Also, add the following to /etc/pacman.conf to ignore it until it gets fixed

IgnorePkg   = gdm

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qzchenwl · 2009-10-18 10:59:44

graysky wrote:

qzchenwl wrote:
I have met this problem too.
The common thing is that I pressed key '2' or '@' before the X crashed each time.
Interesting... I too just experienced the crash and I was typing a list with numbers 1-4 in it. Guess what, it crashed as I typed #2!

Cheers! It must be the problem. I have experienced that more than 3 times!

Shauros · 2009-10-18 11:14:56

This is a longshot, and I'm not an expert but your X might be loading alternate drivers which are buggy or incompatible with the new GDM. From the errors common to the two posts above I'd try the following.

Add the following line under the "ServerLayout" section in your xorg.conf file.

Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"

If the section does not exist, add it like so:

Section "ServerLayout"
Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"
EndSection

If you don't have a xorg.conf file, You can create it with "sudo X -configure".
If you get an error about the display being in use, use "sudo X -configure :1".

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graysky · 2009-10-18 11:28:17

@shauros - thanks but adding the line hosed my keyboard's ability to repeat when I hold down a key. I don't think the problem is a function of Xorg actually. I believe it's with Gnome since it didn't start happening until the 2.28 packages got installed.

toketin · 2009-10-18 12:08:52

it crashed down again for me and it didn't come back to the login window (i've disalbed gdm) i had to restart manually the pc, i use xfce4

crocowhile · 2009-10-18 16:35:11

Same game here: sometimes, hitting the key "2" in a fast sequence after some other key makes X restart.

jesusjimenez · 2009-10-18 18:20:05

Actually, it seems (in my case) that this problem did NOT start after upgrade to Gnome 2.28, but right after upgrading to xorg-server 1.7.0.901-1 packages from testing. I've tried to downgrade Xorg to the stable version and everything looks fine even with gdm 2.28.

toketin · 2009-10-18 20:28:08

Another same crash for me i was upgrading aur packages and the shell gives me this output:
./configure: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable
/bin/sh fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable
and then it crashes and i had to kill the system from the power botton, now i try to downgrade xorgserver to the extra version, i've disabled testing repo

Xyhthyx · 2009-10-18 21:11:22

This has been happening to me too. I have notice the following after the last crash:
- GDM has been spawning on TTY2.
- When it crashed, GDM spawned on TTY7.
- If you check TTY2 you can see a bunch of failed login attempts which are probably the result of your random keystrokes.

Shauros · 2009-10-19 04:20:49

Ok, at this point we should ask:
Of the people who experience crashes,
1) Anyone not running GDM on tty2? If so, on which tty?
2) Anyone not using the xorg version from the testing repository?

palinux · 2009-10-19 05:35:12

i dont't remember exactly, but when i've upgraded my gnome to 2.28, pacman ask me if I want it to replace GDM with (i don't remember the name he!) but the thing is that I did it, and i haven't experience any problem!

perhaps a new actualization gave you the chances of upgrading/replace gdm?

greetings

loafer · 2009-10-19 05:44:51

@Shauros,

1) I have not experienced any crashes since commenting out the line in inittab (see above) and mine is running on tty2.
2) I am not using the xorg version from testing (not using anything from testing in fact)..

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