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cooldudeseven7

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Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

On my system, Using ANY version of blender, it crashes after ~10 seconds after clicking anything
I have 16 gigs of ram, Meet the requirements, and this even happens on ANY OTHER LINUX DISTRO.

This does not happen on windows or mac,
only on [all] linux distros I try.

How do i resolve this?
GPU: Intel graphics 620
16 GB Of RAM

video of what happens:
https://vimeo.com/927289132?share=copy

Last edited by cooldudeseven7 (2024-03-28 22:33:59)

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

please be more specific. At least, list the used versions you tried.
"This does not happen on linux" <- what do you want to say?

Try to run it in the terminal and paste the errors.

cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

please be more specific. At least, list the used versions you tried.
"This does not happen on linux" <- what do you want to say?

Try to run it in the terminal and paste the errors.

ment windows- lol. Going to post the logs, one sec.

cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

please be more specific. At least, list the used versions you tried.
"This does not happen on linux" <- what do you want to say?

Try to run it in the terminal and paste the errors.

I simply cannot find the logs. Even when going into the log directory, no log is generated.
When running in terminal, no data spews.
When looking in system monitor, The usage of CPU and Memory is frozen- it doesnt change.
I have 16 gigs of ram, And enough laid aside for blender.

I Use the system monitor to close the window, as it is not responding (Gnome doesnt display the normal popup, either.)
I can still use the system.

V1del

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

Make sure you aren't incidentally having xf86-video-intel installed. If blender actually crashes you should be getting a coredump, post it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Core_d … _core_dump

cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

Make sure you aren't incidentally having xf86-video-intel installed. If blender actually crashes you should be getting a coredump, post it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Core_d … _core_dump

xf86-video-intel is not in the packages. [Says target not found]  and where can I find blenders coredump?

cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

Make sure you aren't incidentally having xf86-video-intel installed. If blender actually crashes you should be getting a coredump, post it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Core_d … _core_dump

xf86-video-intel is not in the packages. [Says target not found]  and where can I find blenders coredump?

Edit: No coredumps found when executing coredumpctl info [the id of blender for me]

seth

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

Did you follow the link provided by V1del?
Do you have physical swap (file or partition, not zswap/zram)?

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cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

Did you follow the link provided by V1del?
Do you have physical swap (file or partition, not zswap/zram)?

I dont have a swap partition, And yes I followed the link.

I followed the section that was in the link, And ran these commands
coredumpctl info [Software PID]
coredumpctl info blender

both returning "no coredumps found"

Therefore, there is no coredump.

Also, running in the terminal, there is no data.
AND there are no logs.

Here is a video of what happens (around the 50 second mark, or after that, the software freezes.)
https://vimeo.com/927289132?share=copy

**edit
I Also cannot use alt+f4 or use the X icon (on window or overview) to quit. I must force quit with the system monitor

Last edited by cooldudeseven7 (2024-03-25 23:34:55)

seth

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

What do you mean "don't think" - you added some swap or you didn't.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Swap
Add a swapfile, don't forget to swapon it.

coredumpctl info [Software PID]
coredumpctl info blender

Literally?
What's the output of "coredumpctl list"?

Videos of you using your desktop will hardly be helpful here.

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cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

What do you mean "don't think" - you added some swap or you didn't.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Swap
Add a swapfile, don't forget to swapon it.

coredumpctl info [Software PID]
coredumpctl info blender

Literally?
What's the output of "coredumpctl list"?

Videos of you using your desktop will hardly be helpful here.

Yeah, Sorry! I am not sure if I have a swap partition/file. Executing swapon --show outputs
/dev/zram0 partition   4G   0B  100

Does this count?

Here is the output of coredumpctl list.

Sat 2024-03-09 21:37:40 UTC 138746 1000 1000 SIGABRT missing  /tm
p/.mount_GDLaunXurbac/gdlauncher                         -
Sun 2024-03-10 14:13:32 UTC   3374 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 14:13:48 UTC   3424 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 14:13:49 UTC   3545 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 14:13:49 UTC   3498 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 14:13:50 UTC   3569 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 18:32:27 UTC   2601 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 18:40:26 UTC   3378 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 20:44:54 UTC  16922 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 20:44:55 UTC  16971 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 20:44:57 UTC  17020 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 20:48:47 UTC  17613 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Sun 2024-03-10 20:48:49 UTC  17663 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /op
t/vscodium-bin/codium                                    -
Wed 2024-03-13 00:43:12 UTC  18788 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /usr/lib/notepadqq
/notepadqq-bin                        21.0M
Fri 2024-03-15 20:43:54 UTC  14757 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/bin/mscore   
                                      12.5M
Fri 2024-03-15 20:44:21 UTC  15202 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/bin/mscore   
                                      12.6M
Fri 2024-03-15 23:38:58 UTC  57697 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /opt/vscodium-bin/
codium                                 5.7M
Sat 2024-03-16 01:50:00 UTC  63305 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/bin/audacity 
                                      24.0M
Sun 2024-03-17 13:49:09 UTC 119439 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /opt/vscodium-bin/
codium                                 6.0M
Sun 2024-03-17 22:59:39 UTC   8434 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /opt/vscodium-bin/
codium                                 6.0M
Wed 2024-03-20 20:33:13 UTC  15685 1000 1000 SIGSYS  present  /home/neomixxe/.it
ch/app-25.6.2/itch                     1.6M
Wed 2024-03-20 20:38:30 UTC  15881 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /home/neomixxe/.co
nfig/itch/apps/rigs-of-rods-dev/RoR   61.5M
Wed 2024-03-20 21:02:45 UTC  17099 1000 1000 SIGSYS  present  /home/neomixxe/.it
ch/app-25.6.2/itch                     1.6M
Fri 2024-03-22 23:07:30 UTC  19013 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /opt/vscodium-bin/
codium                                 5.7M
Fri 2024-03-22 23:46:02 UTC  21756 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/bin/audacity 
                                      22.4M
Sat 2024-03-23 01:04:16 UTC  32230 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /usr/bin/muse4    
                                       8.1M
Sat 2024-03-23 15:52:28 UTC  44541 1000 1000 SIGSYS  present  /home/neomixxe/.it
ch/app-25.6.2/itch                     1.6M
Mon 2024-03-25 02:14:05 UTC   5491 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /home/neomixxe/.lo
cal/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam     25.1M
Mon 2024-03-25 03:43:02 UTC  13903 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /usr/bin/gnome-con
trol-center                            8.6M
Mon 2024-03-25 12:48:44 UTC   5769 1000 1000 SIGSYS  present  /tmp/.mount_ClipGr
ARDpLX/usr/libexec/QtWebEngineProcess  1.1M
Mon 2024-03-25 12:48:45 UTC   5794 1000 1000 SIGSYS  present  /tmp/.mount_ClipGr
ARDpLX/usr/libexec/QtWebEngineProcess  1.1M
Mon 2024-03-25 12:48:51 UTC   5816 1000 1000 SIGSYS  present  /tmp/.mount_ClipGr
ARDpLX/usr/libexec/QtWebEngineProcess  1.1M
Mon 2024-03-25 18:36:42 UTC  36403 1000 1000 SIGSYS  present  /home/neomixxe/.it
ch/app-25.6.2/itch                     1.6M

Thank you,
cooldudeseven7

Last edited by cooldudeseven7 (2024-03-25 23:40:24)

seth

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

Does this count?

not zswap/zram

No. Add a swapfile.

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cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

Does this count?

not zswap/zram

No. Add a swapfile.

Alright, I have created a 976.6MB swapfile using this guide, and did swapon it.
What now?

Guide Used:
https://phoenixnap.com/kb/linux-swap-file

Last edited by cooldudeseven7 (2024-03-26 20:49:01)

seth

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

I had already linked you https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Swap but wrt your edit

I Also cannot use alt+f4 or use the X icon (on window or overview) to quit. I must force quit with the system monitor

Ok, so it doesn't actually crash (and the video would probably have illustrated that, my bad …) which also explains why there's no backtrace.

=> What's the output of "ps aux | grep -i blender" when this happens?
Does "top" indicate that it uses a lot of CPU?

Is this gnome or KDE? Wayland or X11?
Does the latter matter?

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cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

I had already linked you https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Swap but wrt your edit

I Also cannot use alt+f4 or use the X icon (on window or overview) to quit. I must force quit with the system monitor

Ok, so it doesn't actually crash (and the video would probably have illustrated that, my bad …) which also explains why there's no backtrace.

=> What's the output of "ps aux | grep -i blender" when this happens?
Does "top" indicate that it uses a lot of CPU?

Is this gnome or KDE? Wayland or X11?
Does the latter matter?

Output of the command you linked:
neomixxe    2302  0.0  0.0   6572  4172 pts/0    S+   02:12   0:00 grep --color=auto -i blender
(blender is in red)

it does not say "top" in the output

This is on gnome, x11.
Also, What do you mean by "latter"?
Infact, in the system monitor, The vitals for blender simply freeze. It doesnt change.

  Thanks,
      cooldudeseven7

seth

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

(blender is in red)

Because you don't set GREP_COLORS
However, there was no running (stalled) blender process at this point?
In that case it's pointless, you need to check that while the problem is imminent.

https://man.archlinux.org/man/core/procps-ng/top.1.en is a process monitor

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/latter in this case refers to whether there's a behavioral difference between X11 and wayland

loginctl session-status

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cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

(blender is in red)

Because you don't set GREP_COLORS
However, there was no running (stalled) blender process at this point?
In that case it's pointless, you need to check that while the problem is imminent.

https://man.archlinux.org/man/core/procps-ng/top.1.en is a process monitor

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/latter in this case refers to whether there's a behavioral difference between X11 and wayland

loginctl session-status

oh
I will go and run that command while blender is running.
I get two outputs:

neomixxe    5149 79.9  2.6 2073948 425076 ?      Rl   18:01   0:30 /usr/bin/blender
neomixxe    5262  0.0  0.0   6572  4292 pts/2    S+   18:02   0:00 grep --color=auto -i blender

in both, blender is red [because its the process i am referring to in

ps aux | grep -i blender

Thanks, cooldudeseven7

Last edited by cooldudeseven7 (2024-03-27 18:18:53)

cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

(blender is in red)

Because you don't set GREP_COLORS
However, there was no running (stalled) blender process at this point?
In that case it's pointless, you need to check that while the problem is imminent.

https://man.archlinux.org/man/core/procps-ng/top.1.en is a process monitor

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/latter in this case refers to whether there's a behavioral difference between X11 and wayland

loginctl session-status

oh
I will go and run that command while blender is running.
I get two outputs:

neomixxe    5149 79.9  2.6 2073948 425076 ?      Rl   18:01   0:30 /usr/bin/blender
neomixxe    5262  0.0  0.0   6572  4292 pts/2    S+   18:02   0:00 grep --color=auto -i blender

in both, blender is red [because its the process i am referring to in

ps aux | grep -i blender

Thanks, cooldudeseven7

After running the software on wayland, I get a bit more time before the crash.
However, This time, The "blender is not responding" window is still popping up.

Thanks, Cooldudeseven7

Last edited by cooldudeseven7 (2024-03-28 22:34:21)

seth

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

neomixxe    5149 79.9  2.6 2073948 425076 ?      Rl   18:01   0:30 /usr/bin/blender

The blender process is actively running - did you check this while the window stopped responding?
Did you check its CPU and memory consuption (with top)?

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cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

neomixxe    5149 79.9  2.6 2073948 425076 ?      Rl   18:01   0:30 /usr/bin/blender

The blender process is actively running - did you check this while the window stopped responding?
Did you check its CPU and memory consuption (with top)?

Actually, this resolved when switched to wayland- At first, when it crashed, I thought that this was the same problem- turns out it was a normal blender crash.

Thanks for your work, and the swapfile helped too!

Marking as resolved/solved

UPDATE:
UNRESOLVED! see latest comment

Thanks, cooldudeseven7

Last edited by cooldudeseven7 (2024-03-28 22:34:41)

seth

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

How do you distinguish a "normal blender crash" from the specifc one here?

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cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

How do you distinguish a "normal blender crash" from the specific one here?

Sigh. The problem is back!
This time, I see the "not responding" window. Blender force quits, but if you don't select to, it doesn't recover.
this doesn't happen on windows, I meet the requirements, why does blender keep freezing, and not responding.
It seems like a problem when I created the swapfile.
1.  It isnt used by the system?

How do I resolve this?

On 2nd note, how do I increase swap size? I only have 900 something mb swapfile.
Thanks, cooldudeseven7

Last edited by cooldudeseven7 (2024-03-29 00:28:04)

cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

How do you distinguish a "normal blender crash" from the specifc one here?

Sigh. The problem is back!
This time, I see the "not responding" window. Blender force quits, but if you don't select to, it doesn't recover.
this doesn't happen on windows, I meet the requirements, why does blender keep freezing, and not responding.
It seems like a problem when I created the swapfile.
1.  It isnt used by the system?

How do I resolve this? sad

On 2nd note, how do I increase swap size? I only have 900 something mb swapfile.
Thanks, cooldudeseven7

Also- Edit: I used the

MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=430 MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3FC blender

in x11 to get the same error- checking in wayland.

cooldudeseven7

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

How do you distinguish a "normal blender crash" from the specifc one here?

Sigh. The problem is back!
This time, I see the "not responding" window. Blender force quits, but if you don't select to, it doesn't recover.
this doesn't happen on windows, I meet the requirements, why does blender keep freezing, and not responding.
It seems like a problem when I created the swapfile.
1.  It isnt used by the system?

How do I resolve this? sad

On 2nd note, how do I increase swap size? I only have 900 something mb swapfile.
Thanks, cooldudeseven7

Also- Edit: I used the

MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=430 MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3FC blender

in x11 to get the same error- checking in wayland.

same in wayland...
get this log now

Read prefs: "/home/neomixxe/.config/blender/4.1/config/userpref.blend"
EGL Error (0x3009): EGL_BAD_MATCH: Arguments are inconsistent (for example, a valid context requires buffers not supplied by a valid surface).
EGL Error (0x3009): EGL_BAD_MATCH: Arguments are inconsistent (for example, a valid context requires buffers not supplied by a valid surface).
EGL Error (0x3009): EGL_BAD_MATCH: Arguments are inconsistent (for example, a valid context requires buffers not supplied by a valid surface).
EGL Error (0x3009): EGL_BAD_MATCH: Arguments are inconsistent (for example, a valid context requires buffers not supplied by a valid surface).
EGL Error (0x3009): EGL_BAD_MATCH: Arguments are inconsistent (for example, a valid context requires buffers not supplied by a valid surface).
EGL Error (0x3009): EGL_BAD_MATCH: Arguments are inconsistent (for example, a valid context requires buffers not supplied by a valid surface).
Info: Total files 0 | Changed 0 | Failed 0
Info: Copied 1 selected object(s)

Info: 1 object(s) pasted

Info: Total files 2 | Changed 2 | Failed 0
Info: Copied 1 selected object(s)

Info: 1 object(s) pasted

Killed

while running with

MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=430 MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3FC blender

V1del

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Re: Blender immediatly crashes shortly after launch.

Why are you using MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE? a 620 should be a skylake variant which should be able to do OGL 4.6 natively anyway. What's your output of

glxinfo -B

? If you actually require that, then you're lying about the capabilites of your GPU and any instability should be expected -- use an older blender branch.