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#1 2024-04-29 23:51:54
- rockzombie2
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- Registered: 2018-10-19
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System freezes randomly, no journal logs
Hello, I recently went from dual booting between Arch and Windows to doing a full installation of Arch on my system using encrypted ZFS on root. During installation, I encountered an error using zfs-dkms, so I used the zfs-linux 2.2.3, downgrading the kernel to linux 6.8.5. I also followed the steps on the wiki to downgrade all packages to a specific date (11-Apr-2024), to reduce any issues with packages being ahead of the linux kernel version.
Since then, I've been experiencing random freezes, where the system because unresponsive to all inputs, including the magic SysReq commands. I have to hard reboot using the power button. For the record, this would also happen on my old system when I was dual booting.
I tend to notice it happen while I'm using the PC, possibly while steam is open, although it has also happened overnight while I was asleep-- I found the screensaver frozen.
This past time it went about a week between the last freeze but it just happened again today.
The downside to this is that it doesn't seem to produce any journal logs.
chris@nzxt ~> journalctl
No journal files were found.
-- No entries --Perhaps I don't have logging configured correctly; I'll admit I'm not an expert.
Here is my hardware info:
chris@nzxt ~> hwinfo --short
cpu:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, 4200 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, 4200 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, 4200 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, 4200 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, 4200 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, 4200 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, 4200 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, 4200 MHz
keyboard:
/dev/input/event3 ZSA Moonlander Mark I
/dev/input/event9 Holtek USB Gaming Mouse
mouse:
/dev/input/mice ZSA Moonlander Mark I
/dev/input/mice Holtek USB Gaming Mouse
graphics card:
nVidia GA102 [GeForce RTX 3080 Ti]
Intel HD Graphics 630
sound:
Intel 200 Series PCH HD Audio
nVidia GA102 High Definition Audio Controller
DCMT USB Condenser Microphone
C-Media Electronics Audio Adapter (Unitek Y-247A)
storage:
Sandisk Non-Volatile memory controller
Intel 200 Series PCH SATA controller [AHCI mode]
network:
wlp7s0 Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265
enp0s31f6 Intel Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V
network interface:
lo Loopback network interface
enp0s31f6 Ethernet network interface
wlp7s0 Ethernet network interface
disk:
/dev/nvme0n1 Sandisk WD_BLACK SN850X 4000GB
/dev/sdd VendorCo ProductCode
/dev/sdb Samsung SSD 870
/dev/sdc Samsung SSD 870
/dev/sda Samsung SSD 870
partition:
/dev/nvme0n1p1 Partition
/dev/nvme0n1p2 Partition
/dev/sdd1 Partition
/dev/sdd2 Partition
/dev/sdb1 Partition
/dev/sdb9 Partition
/dev/sdc1 Partition
/dev/sdc9 Partition
/dev/sda1 Partition
/dev/sda9 Partition
usb controller:
ASMedia ASM2142 USB 3.1 Host Controller
Intel 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family USB 3.0 xHCI Controller
bios:
BIOS
bridge:
Intel 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #1
Intel 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #12
Intel 200 Series PCH LPC Controller (Z270)
Intel 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #21
Intel 6th-10th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16)
Intel 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #17
Intel Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers
Intel 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #9
Intel 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #7
hub:
VIA USB2.0 Hub
Hitachi Hub
Hitachi Hub
Realtek RTS5411 Hub
Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
memory:
Main Memory
bluetooth:
Intel Bluetooth wireless interface
unknown:
FPU
DMA controller
PIC
Keyboard controller
/dev/lp0 Parallel controller
Intel 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family Power Management Controller
Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5/v6 / E3-1500 v5 / 6th/7th/8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model
Intel 200 Series PCH CSME HECI #1
Intel 200 Series PCH Thermal Subsystem
Intel 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family SMBus Controller
Serial controller
Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920
/dev/input/event29 DCMT USB Condenser Microphone
/dev/input/event7 ZSA Moonlander Mark I
NZXT Smart Device
/dev/input/event12 C-Media Electronics Audio Adapter (Unitek Y-247A)
/dev/input/event11 Holtek USB Gaming MouseAny help troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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#2 2024-04-30 07:30:43
- Hacksign
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- Registered: 2012-07-30
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Re: System freezes randomly, no journal logs
Same problem, downgrade:
nvidia to 550.54.14-4
nvidia-utils 550.54.14-4
linux to 6.7.8.arch1-1
linux-headers to 6.7.8.arch1-1Solved freez (kernel panic) problem ~
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#3 2024-04-30 07:48:24
- seth
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Re: System freezes randomly, no journal logs
on my system using encrypted ZFS on root
Has your previous installation used that setup as well?
For the record, this would also happen on my old system when I was dual booting.
No journal files were found.
-- No entries --
ls -lR /var/log/journalGenerically (cause this sounds like a FS corruption), https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Solid_ … leshooting and try https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-535xx-dkms (because the 550xx drivers are otr for kernel memory corruptions)
Though w/ https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=295341 the system might also just be completely trashed…
unresponsive to all inputs, including the magic SysReq commands
You're aware that you have to explicitly enable them?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Keyboa … el_(SysRq)
If you cannot prevent the issues w/ the 535xx driver and disabling APST and using the software iommu to avert pot. nvme issues, you'll have to go for https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kdump but a major red flag in this constellation is oc. "zfs"
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#4 2024-04-30 23:08:13
- rockzombie2
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Re: System freezes randomly, no journal logs
Same problem, downgrade:
nvidia to 550.54.14-4 nvidia-utils 550.54.14-4 linux to 6.7.8.arch1-1 linux-headers to 6.7.8.arch1-1Solved freez (kernel panic) problem ~
I'm going to try downgrading just nvidia to 535 first to see if that fixes the issue before downgrading the linux kernel.
Has your previous installation used that setup as well?
No, I believed it used the default ext4 format.
You're aware that you have to explicitly enable them?
No I wasn't, thank you. I enabled the system req keys on my system so hopefully if these changes don't work at least I'll be able to reboot and get some logs out of it.
I dowgraded my graphics card drivers and disabled APST and used software iommu so with these changes, I suppose I'll just wait and see if I experience a freeze anytime soon.
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