udev[testing] breaks nvidia driver

ladislaio · 2008-02-27 02:27:17

When udev-118-2 and initscripts-2008.02-1 were both installed from the testing repro it caused the nvidia driver [nvidia-169.09-2] to continually fail to load when starting Xorg, with kernel26 2.6.24.2-1. There was no problem using the xf86-video-nv-2.1.7-1 driver.
My card is a Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS.
Re-installing both the kernel and the nvidia, nvidia-utils packages did not fix the problem.
Re-installing udev-116-3 and initscripts-2007.11-2 from the core repro allowed for the nvidia video drivers to be loaded as normal.

I am not sure if there is a problem with these packages from testing or if there was something that I needed to do to properly configure the system after having upgraded these two packages. I have not seen any forum posts, bug reports, or wiki articles concerning this problem, beyond the Gentoo wiki suggesting that nvidia and udev do not get along well.
Thank you for your time.

edit: This is on a i686 install

Last edited by ladislaio (2008-02-27 02:28:48)

darksheen · 2008-02-27 03:58:50

I had the same problem too. I reinstalled the entire system,and disabled the Testing Repo. :-(

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ise · 2008-02-27 06:13:33

I have the same issue. Look if the "nvidiafb" module is loaded, if yes the nvidia module can't be load and X fails to start. Normally that shouldn't be loaded at all, but their exists some issues for specific hardware configurations, that's why it is in testing. Look at the arch-dev-public-ml, we are discussing this topic already (the new udev/initscripts and blacklisting).

@darksheen: There is no need to reinstall the whole system. You just to have downgrade udev and initscripts and your problem would be gone.

EDIT: I filed a bug report here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9701

Daniel

Last edited by ise (2008-02-27 06:29:50)

jcasper · 2008-03-12 05:04:13

I have two nvidia cards, both of them fairly old, I use the nvidia-96xx drivers and xinerama to tie the two together. With udev/initscripts in testing one of them works while the other doesn't, and both work fine with udev 116-3 and initscripts 2007.11-2. Blacklisting nvidiafb doesn't seem to help. I'm hosed this week but should have some time next week to do some debugging and provide more info. I thought I would throw in another data point before then, as it seems to be a different problem than FS#9701.

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shining · 2008-03-12 10:48:12

It should work now with the /etc/modprobe.d/framebuffer_blacklist file in udev, and the last module-init-tools package 3.2.2-6.

Why do some ppl use testing when they are not even able to fix a simple problem, by downgrading packages, and looking at the relevant informations from flyspray or arch-dev-public ML..
The purpose of testing is testing packages and detecting breakages before moving them to core/extra. If they always worked, what's the point?

jcasper · 2008-03-12 15:30:24

shining wrote:

Why do some ppl use testing when they are not even able to fix a simple problem, by downgrading packages, and looking at the relevant informations from flyspray or arch-dev-public ML..
The purpose of testing is testing packages and detecting breakages before moving them to core/extra. If they always worked, what's the point?

I don't see anyone in this thread that was not able to fix the problem and get their system working. We were merely reporting that there was a problem. What's the point of having testing packages if people don't report problems with them?

shining · 2008-03-12 15:44:01

jcasper wrote:

I don't see anyone in this thread that was not able to fix the problem and get their system working.

You don't? Ok, whatever.

We were merely reporting that there was a problem. What's the point of having testing packages if people don't report problems with them?

There is the bug tracker for reporting problems.

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udev[testing] breaks nvidia driver

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