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#1 2008-04-27 23:15:05

krogen
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Gnome volume control 'jumping'

Hello,

When I try to control the volume in either Volume Control 2.22.0 or in the Volume Control panel applet in Gnome the volume 'jumps'. What I mean by this is when I try to move the slider slightly it behaves abnormally and 'jumps' around from muted, unmuted, or anywhere inbetween (sorry, not sure how else to explain it). If instead I use alsamixer instead to control the sound, the volume moves up/down without a problem. I'm using Alsa version 1.0.16 from www.alsa-project.org.

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#2 2008-04-28 07:13:23

alienvenom
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

Happens here with GNOME 2.20.1 and Gentoo... It's definitely not Archlinux realted. The Gnome "Volume Control" application itself is jumpy too. I'm just not going to use them. smile

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#3 2008-04-28 08:42:51

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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

may be you should enable ESD in menu System>preferences>Sound!

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#4 2008-04-28 10:19:06

_Marco_
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

it's buggy here too (gnome 2.22)(praka123 I've tried your solution but it didn't work sad )
I noticed that controlling volume with keyboard keys is not bugged (System -> Keyboard Shortcuts) but is there any alternative applet to use?
(mouse wheel is just too useful for me big_smile)
bye!

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#5 2008-04-29 02:35:50

ssjlegendx
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

_Marco_ wrote:

is there any alternative applet to use?

You might find VolWheel helpful. smile

To make VolWheel behave like the GNOME mixer applet, you might need to change the ALSA channel it controls from PCM to Master.


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#6 2008-04-29 03:07:25

dcraven
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

For what it's worth, this happened to me throughout the Hardy beta in Ubuntu. I wonder if we all have the same sound chip.

$ lspci | grep audio
$ 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 02)

Cheers,
~djc

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#7 2008-04-29 07:44:43

_Marco_
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

@dcraven

lspci | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)

@ssjlegendx
thanks I'll try it this evening

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#8 2008-04-29 08:11:36

sH
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

I have ICH8 family and the same issues. At some point the sound even goes mono and then back to stereo again, when I use the volume control 8-O

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#9 2008-04-29 08:42:23

praka123
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

best bet-compile a kernel with modules in-built big_smile

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#10 2008-04-29 10:41:28

friet
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

i noticed the same issue; i have only a usb plantronics headset plugged in; so thats not soundcard related; im using only alsamixer in the console now;that works great and i can live with it smile

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#11 2008-04-29 14:01:03

Misery
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

Seems to be a known problem: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=497795
I have it on my notebook HP nx6325, too.

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#12 2008-04-29 19:47:24

_Marco_
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

ssjlegendx wrote:
_Marco_ wrote:

is there any alternative applet to use?

You might find VolWheel helpful. smile

To make VolWheel behave like the GNOME mixer applet, you might need to change the ALSA channel it controls from PCM to Master.

I've tried it and works very well,
for those experiencing the same problem I suggest to give it a try..
(I had to change the channel to Front)
thanks! big_smile

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#13 2008-05-26 17:43:33

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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

same problem here. It's just frustrating to set the volume in gnome-volume-control with the mousewheel xD..

Last edited by chris89 (2008-05-26 20:22:18)

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#14 2008-05-26 20:15:44

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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

same problem here.
Intel Corporation 82801 (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04) using module snd_intel8x0.

my current workaround is to use alsamixer in a terminal.
really sucks not being able to control the volume with the mousewheel big_smile

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#15 2008-05-26 22:25:03

hussam
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

This has nothing to do with mousewheel. I see this bug without using the mousewheel to control the sliders. it is a alsa problem.

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#16 2008-05-27 00:12:14

Gullible Jones
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

If you're using Intel HDA (or similar) audio, try setting the main volume control to Master rather than Front. As of the current kernel Intel HDA chips seem to have a Master control - just set Front to 100 and adjust Master instead, and you shouldn't get any jumping.

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#17 2008-05-27 05:49:10

krstn
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

Gullible Jones wrote:

If you're using Intel HDA (or similar) audio, try setting the main volume control to Master rather than Front. As of the current kernel Intel HDA chips seem to have a Master control - just set Front to 100 and adjust Master instead, and you shouldn't get any jumping.

I always use "master" to change the volume.
So i don't think that's gonna work (at least for me) smile

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#18 2008-05-27 14:38:34

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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

same problem here. I noticed it the moment i restarted after upgradinig to 2.6.25 Kernel. What happens is (at least for me) the following [assume the volume is being 'increased' using Keyboard or GUI control.

->Vol at 40%
->Vol at 41%
->Vol at 42%... until
->Vol at 0%
->L at 1% R at 0%
->I go to Control app and notice for some reason L and R channels are now unlinked. So i link them back but i cant seem to get the volume up with it linked, the moment i do it goes back to about 0% for both and unlinks. So i moved them seperatley, it worked i have both at 50%, so i felt clever and linked it so i can use keyboard for control, and it went back to unlink+0%ish.

And so on and so forth. U get this is a repeated loop. Once i use alsamixer in console (if channels are unlinked i find they are different volumes so i jst put them back together by maxing both, and now they are linked again) from then on i can change volume using alsamixer OR mplayer for instance (since volume control for mplayer is tied into the PCM volume (NOT Master)) in my case. Of course if i set 3D to post rather than pre PCM volume control becomes useless as always, so mplayer volume control does nothing but mere show. I jst have alsa on Vc/2 so i switch to it when i want to. It is ANNOYING can someone please help.

-Tj


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#19 2008-05-27 14:46:21

krstn
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

no change here, just wanted to post a link to a video i created yesterday.
http://bluehost.to/krstn/volumecontrol.ogg (500kByte)

it shows the weird behaviour.
in the first part of the clip i kept on pressing the button "volume +" on a logitech media keyboard.

my current workaround - just like Tj - is to open up a vc and run alsamixer in it.
so i can jump to that console to set the volume...
sucks big_smile

Last edited by krstn (2008-05-27 14:47:52)

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#20 2008-05-27 17:32:11

chris89
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

I changed the mixer to 'OSS Mixer' (in the preference dialogue of gnome-volume-control) and the problem don't show up (at least I'm now able to set the volume with the mousewheel again), maybe that problem is ALSA related.

Last edited by chris89 (2008-05-27 17:35:56)

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#21 2008-05-29 20:57:48

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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

i also have that problem on my hp pavilion dv2580et laptop computer...

[23:56] (tunix@penguix ~)$ lspci|grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)

the problem also happens with keyboard shortcuts... i noticed the issue that way.. smile

by the way, only 1 of my speakers work on my laptop and i suspect that it's a linux related problem... will try with some other older distro..


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#22 2008-06-02 12:33:02

luk
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

Hmm, it already looks like ALSA problem. When I use OSS, the problem disappear.

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#23 2008-06-07 22:05:11

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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

Switching the volume control to Master fixed it for me.
Change it both by right clicking the applet and in the preferences menu.

Fl4ppie

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#24 2008-07-02 11:36:38

krstn
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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

is there still no fix for this problem?
i just created packages of the latest alsa-packages - but that doesnt change anything.

"Switching the volume control to Master fixed it for me." - i always used "master", so... well... sucks for me big_smile

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#25 2008-07-02 13:07:58

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Re: Gnome volume control 'jumping'

It jumps for me too, and I use Master as well.

I might try VolWheel from AUR as suggested.


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