The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

handy · 2009-12-02 18:17:06

Just to help us out here:

You are using the x.org 1.6 packages?

& you are blocking the 5 (or 6 if you are a notebook) packages from upgrade in the /etc/pacman.conf :

IgnorePkg = xf86-video-vesa xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics

Can you give us lots of details regarding your GPU, hardware, is it is a notebook you are using?

[Edit:] I just looked at your posted image (yeh! I know I'm slow ) perhaps you should turn off drm.

Last edited by handy (2009-12-02 18:31:51)

rocknrolf77 · 2009-12-02 18:26:34

it's not a notebook. I have a gigabyte MA78G-DS3H motherboard, ati radeon 4870 GPU and 4x AMD Phenom(tm) 9950 Quad-Core Processor. And I'm on arch 64-bit. Now I can't even go to the radeonhd driver.

Edit : I have blocked all those packages except for the synaptics.

handy · 2009-12-02 18:29:00

Perhaps adding "radeon.modeset=0" into the kernel append line in /boot/grub/menu.lst .

May help?

I needed to do that in the past myself?

rocknrolf77 · 2009-12-02 18:35:07

Do you know how I will do this in grub.cfg? Using Grub2

handy · 2009-12-02 19:19:13

I'll have a look at the grub site & see if anything makes sense at a quick glance.

I'm not in the mood for learning Grub2 just at the mo' though.

handy · 2009-12-02 19:33:21

I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'd firstly try sticking the above line at the end of this little section of the grub.cfg :

# Entry 0 - Load Linux kernel
menuentry "My Linux Kernel on (hd0,1)" {
set root=(hd0,1)
linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1
initrd /initrd
radeon.modeset=0

Last edited by handy (2009-12-02 19:35:46)

Cory · 2009-12-02 21:12:14

hpestilence wrote:

XvBA doesn't run on 9.11 only 9.10.

Thanks for the answer that explains it, downgroading to Catalyst 9.10

Last edited by Cory (2009-12-02 23:37:49)

Vi0L0 · 2009-12-03 02:54:47

@rocknrolf77:
try to add this to MODULES in rc.conf:
!radeon !ttm !drm_kms_helper !drm
reboot
still doesnt working?
try to reinstall catalyst, check 9.10 and 9.11
reboot
still doesnt working?
paste us your /var/log/Xorg.0.log

but still its strange... i have tested xorg and drivers stuff so many times without problems... guess im lucker
(also i hope you arent hiding information that you are using some other kernel than 2.6.31 )

hunterthomson · 2009-12-03 06:13:20

--> rocknrolf77

I am talking out of my ***. I may be wrong about the steps you need to take to do this so check up on this before you do it. I have done this but anyway this is from the GentooHandbook.

Mybe the kernel just got messedup.

I'd try to boot off of the live Archlinux CD/USB then mount my /root partiton to say /mnt/root. Then chroot into your real /root direcroy on the /mnt/root. Then install the kernel agin or mybe just build a new kernel img.

Or once your chrooted into it you can uninstall all the grafics driver stuff. That way you can get back to a working system.

First get online

# iwconfig wlan0 essid YOUR-ESSID channel THE-CHANNEL
# dhcpcd wlan0

I think with ethernet all you have to do is

# dhcpcd eth0

Mount your Root partiton to /mnt/root

# mkdir /mnt/root
# mount /dev/YOUR-ROOT /mnt/root

Back up All the kernel stuff

# cp /mnt/boot/kernel26.img /mnt/boot/kernel26.img-bkp
# cp /mnt/boot/vmlinuz26 /mnt/boot/vmlinuz26-bkp
# cp /mnt/boot/System.map26 /mnt/boot/System.map26-bkp

Ok now chroot into your root partition you mounted

# mount -t proc none /mnt/root/proc
# mount -o bind /dev /mnt/root/dev

# chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash
# env-update
# source /etc/profile
# export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"

Ok now Un-install the drivers that are giving the problems

# pacman -Rs xf86-video-radeonhd
# pacman -Rs catalyst

Then install the kernel agin or just buld a new kernel26.img

Ok now rebuild the kernel RAM disk Kernel26.img

# mkinitcpio -p kernel26

Or reinstall the kernel

# pacman -Sy kernel26

Last edited by hunterthomson (2009-12-03 06:19:11)

Neuro · 2009-12-03 08:38:44

Guys,

I've got a RHD Mobility 3450 here (RV620 I presume) and would like to try out the open source drivers. The problme is, I haven't got the packages required to run catalyst backed up anywhere (they are installed, but I don't have the packages). Does anyone have the packages needed to revert to working catalyst if necessary?

Cheers

Vi0L0 · 2009-12-03 16:49:20

2.6.32 is out! Yeeeey
unfortunetly i cannot build catalyst on new kernel! Noooo ;(
I have patched kernel with bfs scheduler, but i dont belive scheduler is causing this.
Edit: Ofcourse i have compiled kernel without KMS

Anyway here are errors after makepkg -s on catalyst 9.11:

archive_files/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_io.c: In function 'KCL_IO_FASYNC_Terminate':
archive_files/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_io.c:122: error: 'SIGIO' undeclared (first use in this function)
archive_files/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_io.c:122: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
archive_files/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_io.c:122: error: for each function it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [archive_files/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_io.o] Error 1
make: *** [archive_files/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod] Error 2

I have searched google for patch, without success. Also those errors looks pretty bad...
Can somebody confirm that catalyst dont support 2.6.32?

For your own safety please add kernel26 to IgnorePkg section in /etc/pacman.conf

1,5 week ago i have tested open source drivers (heres instruction http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79509&p=1) but performance was so poor, and those kde artifacts... i dont belive its good now, and i wont test it for some time

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2009-12-03 18:53:21)

Vi0L0 · 2009-12-03 17:11:16

Neuro wrote:

Guys,
I've got a RHD Mobility 3450 here (RV620 I presume) and would like to try out the open source drivers. The problme is, I haven't got the packages required to run catalyst backed up anywhere (they are installed, but I don't have the packages). Does anyone have the packages needed to revert to working catalyst if necessary?
Cheers

you can try this http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 01#p652201
OR:
xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?ajzwunjglnw
xf86-video-vesa-2.2.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?znijdgdkjmd
xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?n0mmmtzmgmd
links to catalyst packages you shall find on my previous posts
you probably need xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics which im not using can somebody upload those files please?

Neuro · 2009-12-03 19:37:06

Vi0L0 wrote:

you can try this http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 01#p652201
OR:
xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?ajzwunjglnw
xf86-video-vesa-2.2.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?znijdgdkjmd
xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?n0mmmtzmgmd
links to catalyst packages you shall find on my previous posts
you probably need xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics which im not using can somebody upload those files please?

Yea, I'd seem the http://doorknob60.is-a-geek.org/xorg-old/x86_64 repo, but under that URL only a list of packages is available, not the packages themselves

hunterthomson · 2009-12-03 20:20:10

I have a repo of all the packages installed on my system x86_64. I would be happy to upload any you need.

catalyst-9.10-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
catalyst-9.11-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
catalyst-utils-9.10-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix
xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz

xorg-apps-7.4-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-apps-7.5-1.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-font-utils-7.4-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-fonts-100dpi-1.0.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-fonts-75dpi-1.0.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-fonts-alias-1.0.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-fonts-encodings-1.0.2-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-fonts-misc-1.0.0-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-res-utils-1.0.3-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-server-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix
xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-server-utils-7.4-7-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-twm-1.0.4-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-util-macros-1.2.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-util-macros-1.3.0-1-any.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-utils-7.4-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-xauth-1.0.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-xinit-1.1.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-xkb-utils-7.4-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz


lib32-libxxf86vm-1.1.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
libxxf86dga-1.0.99.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
libxxf86dga-1.1.1-0.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
libxxf86misc-1.0.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
libxxf86vm-1.0.99.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xf86-input-synaptics-1.1.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xf86-video-vesa-2.2.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xf86dgaproto-2.0.99.1-1-any.pkg.tar.gz
xf86dgaproto-2.1-1-any.pkg.tar.gz
xf86driproto-2.1.0-1-any.pkg.tar.gz
xf86miscproto-0.9.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xf86miscproto-0.9.3-1-any.pkg.tar.gz
xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.99.1-1-any.pkg.tar.gz
xf86vidmodeproto-2.3-1-any.pkg.tar.gz

I just made a parition on my second harddrive /mnt/pkg and then made a system link to it form /var/cache/pacman/pkg . This way I can leave that partition alown and reinstall my system if needed without even being online. Though I have not figured out how to make the databace file so I can use it with pacman but I am sure there is a wiki I just need to read. I also have the kernel26-Aircrack kernel installed so if the kernel gets messed up I can boot with that kernel and fix my computer + use it with aircrack

Last edited by hunterthomson (2009-12-03 20:41:41)

markg85 · 2009-12-04 23:04:12

Ah MEN.. this is extremely annoying! I just (yesterday) bought a new notebook and tested if the ati card (4670) would work under linux. That all worked just fine. Now on archlinux i have issues simply because the software is all to new... Downgrading xorg-server and some packages like suggested a few pages back isn't working for me. i keep getting crash traces.. and right now i screwed up something else in my arch installation as well so i just have to reinstall it.. I am far from a linux n00b but getting the ati driver to work is just a nightmare.

I think i will stick to open ati driver alternatives for now and just wait till the there is a new ati driver release that just works with xorg-server 1.7.* I do not plan to play games on linux anyway...

handy · 2009-12-05 02:12:01

The open-source solution will give you much better 2D speed (does for me anyway) than catalyst does. All refreshes are really quick & movies are completely lag less, vastly superior to the catalyst 2D performance.

Catalyst 9.12 shouldn't be too far away; I have the impression that it will support xorg-server 1.7. Hopefully it will also support the kernel .32 as well.

doorknob60 · 2009-12-05 18:12:59

Neuro wrote:

Vi0L0 wrote:
you can try this http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 01#p652201
OR:
xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?ajzwunjglnw
xf86-video-vesa-2.2.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?znijdgdkjmd
xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz http://www.mediafire.com/?n0mmmtzmgmd
links to catalyst packages you shall find on my previous posts
you probably need xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics which im not using can somebody upload those files please?
Yea, I'd seem the http://doorknob60.is-a-geek.org/xorg-old/x86_64 repo, but under that URL only a list of packages is available, not the packages themselves

That's because of tricky URL redirection, sorry about that All the packages redirect to packages on here: http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/p … /extra/os/

url.redirect = ( "/xorg-old/i686/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz" => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz",
         "/xorg-old/i686/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz" => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz",
         "/xorg-old/i686/xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz" => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz",
         "/xorg-old/i686/xf86-input-synaptics-1.1.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz" => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/xf86-input-synaptics-1.1.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz",
                 "/xorg-old/i686/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz"  => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz",
         "/xorg-old/i686/xf86-video-intel-legacy-2.3.2-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz"  => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/xf86-video-intel-legacy-2.3.2-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz",
         "/xorg-old/x86_64/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz" => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz",
         "/xorg-old/x86_64/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz" => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz",
         "/xorg-old/x86_64/xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz" => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz",
         "/xorg-old/x86_64/xf86-input-synaptics-1.1.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz" => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/xf86-input-synaptics-1.1.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz",
                 "/xorg-old/x86_64/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz"  => "http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/pub/os/linux/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz" )

If you have Linkification installed in Firefox you can just click the URLs in that box as links, and there you go, there's the package Otherwise just copypaste the URL. I do recommend Linkification though, it's very handy. There's also a Greasemonkey script that accomplishes the same thing and works on Opera and Chromium too last time I checked. Sorry for going way off topic

Last edited by doorknob60 (2009-12-05 18:16:24)

markg85 · 2009-12-06 16:44:59

handy wrote:

The open-source solution will give you much better 2D speed (does for me anyway) than catalyst does. All refreshes are really quick & movies are completely lag less, vastly superior to the catalyst 2D performance.
Catalyst 9.12 shouldn't be too far away; I have the impression that it will support xorg-server 1.7. Hopefully it will also support the kernel .32 as well.

Oh well, i will just switch my pc with ati graphics to ubuntu till there is a version that works with archlinux. My other pc's (with intel and nvidia graphics) stay on arch

handy · 2009-12-07 00:06:49

Here is a very positive post from the Ubuntu forums re. kernel .32 & the open-source 3D support for some ATi GPUs. I wonder how well the 2000 series are supported?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? … 29&page=11

Last edited by handy (2009-12-07 01:40:56)

hunterthomson · 2009-12-07 03:47:01

Well well guys

You know that OpenSUSE 11.2 has the new Xserver right ? Well they do.

Check this out. It says that on November 17th AMD calmed the Catalyst 9.11 has "initial" sport for OpenSUSE 11.2 !!!
So, I guess that means is has some support for the new Xserver.....

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ATI-Cata … 7242.shtml

Requirements:
· X.Org 6.8, 6.9, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 or 7.4;
· Linux kernel 2.6 or higher;
· glibc version 2.2 or 2.3;
· Support for POSIX Shared Memory (/dev/shm) is necessary for 3D programs;
· The following packages should be installed on your system: XFree86-Mesa-libGL, libstdc++, libgcc, XFree86-libs, fontconfig, freetype, zlib and gcc.

----------------

Here is a OpenSUSE 11.2 user explaining how he got it to work.

http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/425 … 2-a-9.html

Hi mate,
I'm running OS 11.2 x64 with KDE. download and use the 11.1 drivers from the ATI website. The 11.2 drivers kept causing KDE to freeze. You need to make sure you have some extra packages installed. This is how I got my drivers working for 2x HD4870x2's. For step 3, to check which version of the kernal you have, type in 'uname -r' in a konsole window. If you see '-desktop' at the end of the name, that's the kernel you have
1. install OS 11.2
2. Log in as normal user
3. Open up a konsole session in KDE, su to the root account
3. type in or copy\paste this:
zypper in kernel-source kernel-desktop-devel linux-kernel-headers kernel-syms module-init-tools make gcc
Note: Change kernel-desktop-devel if you dont have the standard desktop kernel
4. Download the 9.11 driver from the ATI website (9.12 kept causing my KDE to freeze)
5. Go to the folder where you downloaded the driver to and run this command: sh ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run
Just leave everything at their defaults and let it install.
6. Once the install has finished, run this command from a konsole user as root as well: aticonfig --initial
7. Reboot to let the drivers load
8. Log into KDE and enable desktop effects from the 'configure Desktop' app (Desktop sub-menu). If it keeps disabling itself, check the 'Disable functionality effects' from the Advanced tab.
9. If you have dual monitors (which I do) start up a konsole window and su to root. Type in 'amdcccle' to open the ATI catalyst console and configure the placement of your monitors (which one is center, left or right etc) and configure the multi-display for 'Multi-display desktop (with display X) for both monitors.

I've used the above steps for the last 4-5 installs on my pc to get it up and running, has worked every time

Last edited by hunterthomson (2009-12-07 04:16:35)

m3thodic · 2009-12-07 05:34:49

In case people want to use 2.6.32 in testing, here is an updated PKGBUILD and patch file.

http://libpcap.net/arch/

Vi0L0 · 2009-12-07 21:04:12

@hunterthomson:
AFAIK opensuse uses old xorg-server... im 99,99% sure

@m3thodic:
ooouuu nice thanks man! ill check that within an hours

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2009-12-07 22:36:50)

hunterthomson · 2009-12-07 23:43:43

Hum, ya I am wrong.

I was going to switch to OpenSUSE a few months ago because it seems to be the simplest Linux Distro to make "secure." As much as I love Arch.. BOY is it insecure. Lets say the NSA wanted to get root on my box. They would have no problem at all. Moreover, I would probably never even know unless they were using a lot of CPU or Bandwidth.... Well, I just leave Etherape on 24/7 now so I guess I would know because I send all my traffic through an anonymous SSH-tunnel account I bought.. so any other connection would be a big red flag. (ya, The NSA could probably crack OpenSUSE too but they would at lest have to put 'some' effort into it and ya there is a lot more to security then the OS)

I suppose that is the deferents with BSD. All BSD distors use a secure Kernel by default. However, almost all Linux Distros use a crazy insecure Kernel and if you want PaX/GRsec + SElinux in the Kernel & PIE and ACL implemented in the applications, you have to compile all the software or use RedHat or SUSE or Hardened Gentoo.

Anyway, I didn't because at the time they where saying 11.2 was going to ship with 1.7 and I knew it wouldn't work with Catalyst. But as it turns out Novel rejected the feature. I'd be using OpenBSD or NetBSD if didn't have this dam ATI card.

https://features.opensuse.org/306903

https://hermes.opensuse.org/messages/1839870

Last edited by hunterthomson (2009-12-08 10:06:06)

acmps · 2009-12-08 16:14:41

I've left the awful world of Catalyst for good. Now I'm using opensource drivers with kernel 2.6.32 and KMS enabled. One word description: AWESOME! HD videos - flawless... 3D games - no problems...

Using ATI Mobility HD3450.

m3thodic · 2009-12-08 16:32:29

acmps wrote:

I've left the awful world of Catalyst for good. Now I'm using opensource drivers with kernel 2.6.32 and KMS enabled. One word description: AWESOME! HD videos - flawless... 3D games - no problems...
Using ATI Mobility HD3450.

Yeah I can't wait until the radeonhd stuff works with my chipset. Max resolution I get is 1280x720 and right now audio isn't functional (yes, even when specifying HDMI audio in my xorg.conf).

Arch Linux

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

#1098 2009-12-07 23:43:43

Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

#1099 2009-12-08 16:14:41

Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

#1100 2009-12-08 16:32:29

Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

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