The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

miromanyth · 2009-11-05 00:46:46

If I install Arch now and then Xorg am I not going to be able to use Catalyst? If not, how can I use a version of xorg that will allow me to do so?

Thanks!

handy · 2009-11-05 05:15:23

miromanyth wrote:

If I install Arch now and then Xorg am I not going to be able to use Catalyst? If not, how can I use a version of xorg that will allow me to do so?
Thanks!

See kaspar's post_991 on the previous page. It works like a charm.

snack · 2009-11-05 08:44:11

miromanyth wrote:

If I install Arch now and then Xorg am I not going to be able to use Catalyst? If not, how can I use a version of xorg that will allow me to do so?
Thanks!

xorg doesn't come with arch, so if you can get xorg-servere-catalyst-maximize-fix from aur before installing you can simply install that.

handy · 2009-11-05 09:07:44

snack wrote:

miromanyth wrote:
If I install Arch now and then Xorg am I not going to be able to use Catalyst? If not, how can I use a version of xorg that will allow me to do so?
Thanks!
xorg doesn't come with arch, so if you can get xorg-servere-catalyst-maximize-fix from aur before installing you can simply install that.

There is an incompatibility between the current version of catalyst 9.10 & xorg 1.7*. The workaround is to not upgrade 5 or 6 packages, by adding the following to /etc/pacman.conf :

IgnorePkg = xf86-video-vesa xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse

Add this if you need to for your notebook: xf86-input-synaptics

The above works for both 32bit & 64bit Arch installs.

All package names following IgnorePkg = should be on the one line in pacman.conf.

Last edited by handy (2009-11-05 09:10:20)

Phitherek_ · 2009-11-07 18:18:27

Added xf86-input-joystick and xorg-xdm to the hpaste list. I think they' re related to xorg... I' ve detected them after yaourt -Syu.

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handy · 2009-11-07 22:29:40

Phitherek_ wrote:

Added xf86-input-joystick and xorg-xdm to the hpaste list. I think they' re related to xorg... I' ve detected them after yaourt -Syu.

We have found due to kasper's earlier post that only about 5 or 6 packages need to be held back from upgrading. This same list works for both 32 & 64bit systems fortunately.

If you look before your post I had posted the list there for someone else's benefit.

I'm on 64bit & it works like a charm, I could happily delete the roughly 55 other packages that I had in the IgnorePkg = list before kasper presented us with this much more convenient small list.

doorknob60 · 2009-11-08 06:15:03

Hey guys, I have an alternate solution I set up a repo with the old packages (well, I used URL redirection for all the packages, my server is only hosting the 1.2 KB db file ). I just tried it on my old P4 that uses the nvidia-173xx driver (which seems to also be broken with the new xorg), and it works great.

Add this to pacman.conf before extra. Also remove any IgnorePkg stuff you might have added from previous posts.
i686:

[xorg-old]
Server = http://doorknob60.is-a-geek.org/xorg-old/i686

x86_64:

[xorg-old]
Server = http://doorknob60.is-a-geek.org/xorg-old/x86_64

After adding the repo, run this command. If needed (laptop), also install xf86-input-synaptics

pacman -Sy xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard

There are some conflicting packages (like xf86-video-intel xf86-video-vesa and some others), but the real reason you'd use this is for Catalyst or old Nvidia drivers, so you don't need those anyways If there's more packages you want me to add to this repo just PM me.

EDIT: I'M TAKING THESE DOWN, USE THIS INSTEAD: http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?pid=15608

Last edited by doorknob60 (2010-03-04 01:01:53)

ixnine · 2009-11-08 22:48:39

That's great doorknob60, it worked perfectly for me, now I don't have to type as much. Thanks for sharing!

handy · 2009-11-09 00:24:34

So, forgive me, as I'm a bit slow minded?

Why is the repo' solution better than just adding the 5 or 6 packages to the IgnorePkg = line in pacman.conf ?

Last edited by handy (2009-11-09 00:24:58)

Caetel · 2009-11-09 02:13:35

I've followed the instructions in post #991, however catalyst-utils won't install because it conflicts with libgl. However, I can't remove libgl because it's required by gnome-screensaver, mesa, xine-lib, xorg-server and xorg-utils.

What do I do to resolve this? :-/

guzz46 · 2009-11-09 03:49:16

pacman -Rd libgl

removes packages without checking for dependencies

doorknob60 · 2009-11-09 05:10:11

handy wrote:

So, forgive me, as I'm a bit slow minded?
Why is the repo' solution better than just adding the 5 or 6 packages to the IgnorePkg = line in pacman.conf ?

I don't know, to me it just seems like a smoother solution, especially if you already updated on accident. If you are still using the older packages, using these won't change anything and you won't have to use IgnorePkg. It's up to personal preference really, and I prefer a repo

handy · 2009-11-09 06:13:05

doorknob60 wrote:

handy wrote:
So, forgive me, as I'm a bit slow minded?
Why is the repo' solution better than just adding the 5 or 6 packages to the IgnorePkg = line in pacman.conf ?
I don't know, to me it just seems like a smoother solution, especially if you already updated on accident. If you are still using the older packages, using these won't change anything and you won't have to use IgnorePkg. It's up to personal preference really, and I prefer a repo

There is certainly NO criticism on my behalf, I was just wondering.

I expect that you probably had good fun setting the repo solution up too.

I know I would have.

So, it has also given people who have upgraded an easier way out as they don't have to manually downgrade if they use your repo as stated in your initial post?

I asked the questions to help others out who may possibly be as ignorant as I am re the inner workings of pacman.

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aaahaaap · 2009-11-09 23:42:50

kasper wrote:

After updating xorg to 1.7.1 the catalyst 9.10 driver wouldn't load, so I found an easy way to solve this problem. I've downloaded and installed these packages:
xorg-server-1.6.3-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz
xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/p … a/os/i686/
Packages for x86-64 arch
http://se-jpg-01.files.syntaxerror.nu/p … os/x86_64/
You can instruct Pacman to ignore future updates for these packages. Edit /etc/pacman.conf and add this line:
IgnorePkg = xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse

It seems like all xf86-input* packages conflict with the older xorg-server, to make sure it works for everyone it might be a good idea to add them to the IgnorePkg list.

Btw. Can we upgrade xorg-server to 1.6.3.901-1?

rissajeanne · 2009-11-10 19:13:09

Hey all,
This thread has been extremely helpful to me.

I have an ATI Radeon HD 3200 card, and it appears I need to revert to Xorg 1.6 in order to use the Catalyst 9.10 driver and get my oh-so-necessary 3D Acceleration.

Here's my trouble:

I downloaded the catalyst package that Vi0l0 recommended, the one that includes catalyst and catalyst-utils. I removed Xorg 1.7 and dependencies, as well as my xf86-video-radeonhd drivers. I installed Xorg 1.6 and related packages per kasper's recommendation. I added xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse to pacman.conf, installed the catalyst drivers, ran aticonfig --initial, checked my xorg.conf file, rebooted, and started x. Blank screen.

I checked my Xorg log file, and got this output, among other:

(EE) [drm] drmOpen failed.
(EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed!
(WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
(WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
(WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
(WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
(WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
(WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *

Also, I ran pacman -Syu and it still wanted to update Xorg to 1.7, even though I set up IgnorePkg.

Any ideas? Thanks!

handy · 2009-11-10 22:02:32

double post.

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handy · 2009-11-10 22:05:44

@rissajeanne: So you added the packages as follows in pacman.conf (all on the same line of course)?

IgnorePkg = xf86-video-vesa xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse

If so, seeing that you did upgrade to xorg 1.7 first, you may be best served by following doorknob60's repo method in post_1008 further up this page.

rissajeanne · 2009-11-10 22:06:28

handy wrote:

@rissajeanne: So you added the packages as follows in pacman.conf (all on the same line of course)?
IgnorePkg = xf86-video-vesa xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse

I did indeed.

rissajeanne · 2009-11-10 22:07:35

handy wrote:

If so, seeing that you did upgrade to xorg 1.7 first, you may be best served by following doorknob60's repo method in post_1008 further up this page.

I actually downgraded to 1.6.

handy · 2009-11-10 22:48:33

Try his repo method, it might get around a possible dependency problem that is causing you the problem.

It isn't hard to do...

rabbithunter666 · 2009-11-11 08:18:35

Thanks for sharing. It work fine for me.

handy · 2009-11-11 09:54:26

rabbithunter666 wrote:

Thanks for sharing. It work fine for me.

What worked?

The IgnorePkg= routine?

Or the doorknob60 repo routine?

It truly helps if we know what you did & what works for you.

oskar.einstein · 2009-11-11 13:52:49

Can someone upload xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix package (64bit) from AUR? I have updated my xlibs so I can't build this anymore.

Vi0L0 · 2009-11-11 15:14:44

oskar.einstein wrote:

Can someone upload xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix package (64bit) from AUR? I have updated my xlibs so I can't build this anymore.

http://www.mediafire.com/?n0mmmtzmgmd

oskar.einstein · 2009-11-11 15:37:49

Thanks

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