why are we still using grub legacy?

T-u-N-i-X · 2008-11-20 12:20:22

i've just bought a 8 gb arch linux usb key from dusty and installed arch linux on it which went very fine.. booting on pc's are working like a charm but it doesn't boot on osx.. and during my researches i came across grub2 at its own site and grub-legacy is something deprecated.. how come we use something "old" in arch?

AndyRTR · 2008-11-20 12:26:34

grub(1.9x) is still in an alpha state. it lacks some essential feature (afaik booting from lvm and dmraid setups). grub-legacy is well tested and just works.

T-u-N-i-X · 2008-11-20 12:30:01

hmm i just saw that grub2 is in aur.. but i guess noone ever needed things like grub2-efi and such software.. seems noone tries to boot arch on a usb key on macbook (pro)

shazeal · 2008-11-20 21:51:43

I was bored, so I grabbed grub2 from svn and built it. Now booting from ext4 /boot partition

Pretty simple upgrade. Some really nice new features in grub2, will have to explore them.

Forgot to mention, it makes life with software raid so easy, grub was a pain, now you can just use grub-install and it just works. Also I did have to modify some source to get it to compile and the grub-install script as it is not correctly updated with the --prefix from compile time.

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MindTooth · 2008-11-21 08:27:10

A guide for upgrading to grub2 would be nice. Using the wiki as good

Birger

Moo-Crumpus · 2008-11-21 12:45:27

I tried it yesterday, too, was confused by /usr/etc/grub.d-scripts and /etc/defaults/grub, not working scripts for automatic menu creation, and finally created /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually. Havent found any hint how to tune the gfx. Found it was not worth the efford, and switched back to grub...

-> the package in the aur is somehow wired. It installs the config scripts in /usr/etc/grub.d, but they don't do their job. If they should not be used, then they should not be installed. If they should be used, they should do.

-> documentation is ... ah ... where? Is there any?

cautha · 2008-12-02 07:17:31

I second the motion for a guide

Harry

dongiovanni · 2008-12-02 07:24:39

Here is the documentation, that is avaiable for grub http://grub.enbug.org/FrontPage?action= … StartSeite at the moment. There is not that much documentation upstream.

pjjanak · 2008-12-03 17:23:46

Looks like grub2 has gone into extra...anyone tried it out from there yet?

Peter

pressh · 2008-12-03 18:12:18

pjjanak wrote:

Looks like grub2 has gone into extra...anyone tried it out from there yet?

If someone tries, the configuration file has changed to /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the syntax also changed a bit (especially note the change in device names).
Ah well, just follow the instructions in the install file/wiki and you should be fine I suppose.

and add things to the wiki if you have usefull things to add, it is by no means complete yet, I just made a start so you guys can get your feet wet

MindTooth · 2008-12-03 18:50:58

Can even look into this: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Splashy

Birger

pjjanak · 2008-12-03 19:29:15

With a bit of tweaking I got it up pretty quickly. I wish I had my colors back, though . *digs around for a solution*

Peter

pressh · 2008-12-03 19:36:46

pjjanak wrote:

I wish I had my colors back, though . *digs around for a solution*

please add it to the wiki page if you find a solution

pjjanak · 2008-12-03 19:45:31

Well, there is a background_image option in the grub command line, but I would have to set a video mode for that...

Accursed grub devs not having any real documentation yet.

Peter

pressh · 2008-12-03 19:52:07

Building our own documentations is a price we have to pay when using pre-release software I suppose.

For the colors, in /boot/grub/grub.cfg somewhere before your menu entries, you can specify something like

set color_normal=cyan/blue
set color_highlight=white/blue

but please use other colors, these are really ugly

klixon · 2008-12-03 19:54:33

pjjanak wrote:

I wish I had my colors back, though

Here is a little something about colors for the grub2 menu. I haven't even got it set up yet, so i don't know if it works, but i found it in the "CommandList" and i think it should work for the config file...

EDIT: whoops i read it wrong... color is now replaced by menu_color_highlight and menu_color_normal

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pjjanak · 2008-12-03 20:08:43

Yup, just figured it out. haha Thanks guys!

Peter

EDIT: Added it to the wiki, though It's not prettily formatted. SOmeone want to do that? :-p

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farvardin · 2008-12-03 20:35:03

Xorg 7.4 + Grub 2 + kernel 2.6.28-rc7 + pulseaudio + ext4 (if your system is still able to boot this...)

"Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux" ... hmm hmm

Roberth · 2008-12-03 20:46:28

While we are talking about fancy stuff, when will ext4 be mature enough?

farvardin · 2008-12-03 20:59:46

sudo modprobe ext4dev

I haven't tried it personally...

http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
"As of this writing (mid-July, 2008, just after the release of 2.6.26), the ext4 code is functionally complete and functional enough that a few people are using it in production. However, it is still being tested and although the developers haven't lost any data yet, please be cautious and keep plenty of backups! "

Dieter@be · 2008-12-03 21:37:02

Roberth wrote:

While we are talking about fancy stuff, when will ext4 be mature enough?

in 2.6.28 ext4 will be stable, afaik

Zariel · 2008-12-03 23:27:05

grub2 is now in extra, give that a spin. And why not just use ext2 for boot?

MindTooth · 2008-12-04 07:46:56

May this work:

(menu_color_{magenta/blue,black/magenta})

Birger

fettouhi · 2008-12-04 09:32:38

Does the grub2 package in extra support graphical backgrounds or does it need a patch like with the old grub package (grub-gfx)?

Regards

André

tcoffeep · 2008-12-04 09:42:20

Does this mean Grub2 is out of alpha?

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