Xorg won't start.

Barrucadu · 2008-11-30 18:05:30

Since I installed the latest Xorg, it won't start. It complains about incorrectly configured screens.

Oddly enough, I can't find anything in /var/log/Xorg.*.log.

javonera · 2008-11-30 18:11:09

I had a similar problem. Xorg.0.log said there was a problem with this line:

RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"

right before saying some stuff about incorrectly screens.

I just removed it and everything seems to be working fine.

Barrucadu · 2008-11-30 18:15:56

I should have mentioned, I currently have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, I removed it to avoid problems like that.

tesjo · 2008-11-30 18:50:18

Same issue here in /etc/X11/XF86Config generated by nvidia-xconfig with

RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"

Just commented out and was able to start X.
Maybe something should be added to the announcement.

Philip J. Fry · 2008-11-30 19:10:28

Same here. Admin announce this bug, please.

fettouhi · 2008-11-30 19:57:18

Had the same problem here and did the same thing and X worked again.

Regards

André

kamil · 2008-11-30 20:13:36

After removing that line, I can`t write any special language chars. I`m from Poland and we have a extended Latin. It`s quite annoying. How to solve it?

Last edited by kamil (2008-11-30 20:31:13)

Sakurina · 2008-11-30 20:36:59

I removed the line but xmonad isn't even able to tile windows anymore. Yet key bindings for dmenu, epiphany and what have you all work. I might have to switch to another WM in the meantime it seems.

edit: Actually, it seems that xmonad is just not tiling urxvt anymore, every other app tiles fine. My trackpad also doesn't work now. Is there any command to go back to the old X packages?
edit2: So seemingly, it was something in my .Xdefaults that made urxvt misbehave. Now I just need to get my trackpad back.
edit3: Arrow keys are dead. Yay.

Last edited by Sakurina (2008-11-30 20:47:49)

Barrucadu · 2008-11-30 20:44:50

So, I seem to be the only person for whom it doesn't work at all

kamil · 2008-11-30 20:45:57

Sakurina wrote:

Is there any command to go back to the old X packages?

Old packages are in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/

fettouhi · 2008-11-30 20:47:33

kamil wrote:

After removing that line, I can`t write any special language chars. I`m from Poland and we have a extended Latin. It`s quite annoying. How to solve it?

Try setting your keyboard under System-->Keyboard-->Layout. I just added my language there (Danish) and then everything worked again.

Regards

André

Sakurina · 2008-11-30 20:53:11

Okay, here's what I did to get my Xorg working exactly the same as it was before the update:
- Comment out RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
- Add Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" to ServerFlags (see this wiki article)

Everything runs just as well as it did on my old config once I do this. Hopefully it can help others.

kamil · 2008-11-30 20:56:12

Sakurina wrote:

Okay, here's what I did to get my Xorg working exactly the same as it was before the update:
- Comment out RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
- Add Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" to ServerFlags (see this wiki article)
Everything runs just as well as it did on my old config once I do this. Hopefully it can help others.

It works. Thanks a lot.

ColdPie · 2008-11-30 22:17:12

Hey OP, I'll try to help, but you need to post some more info.

What video card do you have?
Which drivers are you using? The proprietary ATi catalyst? Or the OSS ati drivers?
Can you post your old xorg.conf? I hope you didn't delete it without saving a backup!
Do you have more than one monitor? If so, what's your screen layout?
What are the exact error messages that you get when you try running `startx` as root? Make sure to be at init level 3 when you boot, starting at 5 can screw things up while you're trying to debug the problem.

I had a bit of trouble after the upgrade. Here's some things I noted while trying to debug:

Running `X -configure` caused segfaults. No idea what was up there.
Removing the RGB line people have been talking about from my old xorg.conf allowed me to start into twm with `startx`, but it didn't recognize my two monitors.
I removed the /etc/ati/amdpcsdb file and ran `aticonfig --desktop-setup=horizontal --screen-layout=right`. This let me boot up into twm with both monitors recognized & working. Then booting up into XFCE as usual worked fine.

Give us some more information and perhaps play around with aticonfig to see if you can fix your problem.

brazzmonkey · 2008-11-30 22:40:28

Sakurina wrote:

Okay, here's what I did to get my Xorg working exactly the same as it was before the update:
- Comment out RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
- Add Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" to ServerFlags (see this wiki article)
Everything runs just as well as it did on my old config once I do this. Hopefully it can help others.

i confirm this works too.

my xfce desktop icons have now empty labels when compositor is enabled. any workaround?

ColdPie · 2008-11-30 22:46:22

brazzmonkey wrote:

my xfce desktop icons have now empty labels when compositor is enabled. any workaround?

I'm also having issues with the compositor. Alt-tabbing, resizing windows, recalling minimized windows, all are incredibly slow. I do have desktop icon labels though Disabling the compositor is an acceptable workaround for me (all I was using it for was the fancy shadows). Kind of a shame, but I won't miss it much.

Edit: Resizing Terminal windows is still incredibly slow.

Last edited by ColdPie (2008-11-30 22:48:08)

Barrucadu · 2008-11-30 22:50:07

ColdPie wrote:

What video card do you have?

An ATI Mobility™ Radeon® HD2600

Which drivers are you using? The proprietary ATi catalyst? Or the OSS ati drivers?

I was using the proprietary drivers, but with this version of X even the vesa drivers won't work.

Can you post your old xorg.conf? I hope you didn't delete it without saving a backup!

I deleted it. It was just generated by running X -configure, aticonfig, and a few small tweaks. Nothing strange or unusual.

Do you have more than one monitor? If so, what's your screen layout?

I just have one monitor, it's a laptop.

What are the exact error messages that you get when you try running `startx` as root? Make sure to be at init level 3 when you boot, starting at 5 can screw things up while you're trying to debug the problem.

I removed the RgbPath line, and now the entire system locks up and I have to do a hard reboot.

Last edited by Barrucadu (2008-11-30 22:51:03)

ColdPie · 2008-11-30 23:00:47

Barrucadu wrote:

I removed the RgbPath line, and now the entire system locks up and I have to do a hard reboot.

I had this happen once during troubleshooting. I wish I could remember exactly what I did to fix it...

What did you remove the RGB line from?
Does `X -configure` generate an xorg.conf file in /root? Is this the xorg.conf you're trying to use now? Can you post it for us?

brazzmonkey · 2008-11-30 23:34:43

ColdPie wrote:

brazzmonkey wrote:
my xfce desktop icons have now empty labels when compositor is enabled. any workaround?
I'm also having issues with the compositor. Alt-tabbing, resizing windows, recalling minimized windows, all are incredibly slow. I do have desktop icon labels though Disabling the compositor is an acceptable workaround for me (all I was using it for was the fancy shadows). Kind of a shame, but I won't miss it much.
Edit: Resizing Terminal windows is still incredibly slow.

no speed issues here, using nvidia-96xx (it has been updated at the same time as xorg).

Barrucadu · 2008-11-30 23:37:41

Currently I'm using my old xorg.conf (I recreated it), as I keep switching between the current and previous versions of X (current to try to fix, previous to actually use my laptop). The xorg.conf I'm using is:

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
#    RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/local"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "GLcore"
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "record"
    Load  "xtrap"
    Load  "freetype"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "kbd"
    Option      "XkbLayout" "gb"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Protocol" "auto"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName    "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "fglrx"
    VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
    BoardName   "Unknown Board"
    BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth 24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     24
        Modes "1280x800"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Here's the output of X -configure

X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.27-ARCH x86_64 
Current Operating System: Linux archangel 2.6.27-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 28 10:35:44 UTC 2008 x86_64
Build Date: 10 November 2008  09:07:55AM
 
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Nov 30 23:42:03 2008
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Loader magic: 0x7b5480
(II) Module ABI versions:
    X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
    X.Org Video Driver: 4.1
    X.Org XInput driver : 2.1
    X.Org Server Extension : 1.1
    X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6
(II) Loader running on linux
(--) using VT number 4

(--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xfc000000/65536, I/O @ 0x00002000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
List of video drivers:
    fglrx
    vesa
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
    compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.55.2
    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) LoadModule: "vesa"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
(II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 1.3.0
    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1
(II) System resource ranges:
    [0] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.55.2
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: UNSUPPORTED-8.552                    
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Oct 28 2008 21:23:41
(WW) This ATI Proprietary Linux Driver does not guarantee support of video driver ABI higher than 2.0
(WW) Video driver ABI version of the X server is 4.1
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:0) found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found

Backtrace:
0: X(xorg_backtrace+0x26) [0x4ed8a6]
1: X(xf86SigHandler+0x39) [0x4869c9]
2: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x7f95e4736160]
3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxProbeMain+0x87c) [0x7f95e3e1b61c]
4: X(xf86CallDriverProbe+0x204) [0x4697f4]
5: X(DoConfigure+0x1cc) [0x48fdcc]
6: X(InitOutput+0xa38) [0x46a428]
7: X(main+0x286) [0x4334c6]
8: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0x7f95e47223f6]
9: X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x269) [0x432a79]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

Last edited by Barrucadu (2008-11-30 23:54:24)

SnapShot · 2008-11-30 23:53:34

I see that you are using kbd and mouse drivers. For new xserver you need to use evdev driver for input devices or disable AutoAddDevices option. Read this article especially this part.

EDIT: sorry, if you already checked this.

Last edited by SnapShot (2008-11-30 23:55:53)

jamesbannon · 2008-12-01 00:01:53

OK, adding

Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"

Works for me. Boy that was damned frustrating! When I first did the upgrade, I not only lost my keyboard settings, I lost all my font settings and X refused to work. I eventually got around it by blowing away the old configuration file and starting again from scratch. However, this time nvidia-xconfig refused to work and I had to use

sudo Xorg -configure

instead to create a new config file. After some tweaking, getting rid of multiple monitor settings etc., and rerunning nvidia-settings, i've managed to get it working.

azleifel · 2008-12-01 00:02:18

Barrucadu wrote:

So, I seem to be the only person for whom it doesn't work at all

No, you're not alone. I cannot get X to start with the nvidia driver. It will start with the nv driver, with or without an xorg.conf, but the keyboard mapping is shot despite me following the wiki stuff about hal policies and also setting the keyboard layout under gnome's System -> Preferences (amusingly, it takes a screenshot every time I press the up arrow key!)

As far as the nvidia driver goes, I get:

NVIDIA: Could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error).

despite /dev/nvidia0 being all correct and present, followed by

(EE) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving
(EE) NVIDIA(0):     interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device
(EE) NVIDIA(0):     PCI:2:0:0.  Please see Chapter 8: Common Problems in the
(EE) NVIDIA(0):     README for additional information.
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!

despite booting with either pci=noacpi or acpi=off.

Last edited by azleifel (2008-12-01 00:02:56)

jamesbannon · 2008-12-01 00:06:37

I should have added my Xorg.conf for others having the same problem. Here it is:

# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder63)  Tue Nov  4 14:08:09 PST 2008

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
#    Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "xtrap"
#    Load           "dri"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "glx"
    Load           "freetype"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
    Option       "AutoAddDevices" "false"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "gb"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "DELL 1702FP"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 80.0
    VertRefresh     56.0 - 76.0
EndSection

#Section "Monitor"
#    Identifier     "Monitor1"
#    VendorName     "Unknown"
#    ModelName      "CRT-0"
#    HorizSync       28.0 - 55.0
#    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
#EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Card0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName      "G70 [GeForce 7800 GTX]"
    BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Card1"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName      "G70 [GeForce 7800 GTX]"
    BusID          "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 7800 GTX"
    BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
    Option        "UseEdidDpi"  "false"
    Option        "DPI" "120 x 120"
EndSection

#Section "Device"
#    Identifier     "Device1"
#    Driver         "nvidia"
#    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
#    BoardName      "GeForce 7800 GTX"
#    BusID          "PCI:2:0:0"
#EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "1280x1024_75 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

#Section "Screen"
#    Identifier     "Screen1"
#    Device         "Device1"
#    Monitor        "Monitor1"
#    DefaultDepth    24
#    Option         "TwinView" "0"
#    Option         "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
#    Option         "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
#    SubSection     "Display"
#        Depth       24
#    EndSubSection
#EndSection

The card sections could probably be commented out as well, but I left them in for safety. It seems that Xorg thinks I have two monitors, since it, initially at least, can't see my PCI bridge. However running startx & then running nvidia-settings as root & merging the config files sorted that problem.

Last edited by jamesbannon (2008-12-01 00:10:46)

l33tunderground · 2008-12-01 00:12:20

@Barrucadu:

How did you recreate the Xorg.conf?

Xorg -configure

has always had good results for me.
I assume that you are not doing this, as there are modes specified in your xorg.conf

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