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#1 2009-02-23 09:13:58

lardon
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Visibility of promoted packages?

As far as I know, there is no way to see which packages get promoted from AUR to community or core/extra, or even the new packages in the distro. I think it would be something interesting to have because promoted packages are probably new good software that would be interesting to hear about.

What do you think?


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#2 2009-02-23 09:24:31

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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

You need to check the ML (aur and dev-public). Devs and TUs must ask on these lists before adding a package in a repo.

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#3 2009-02-23 09:34:51

lardon
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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

Snowman wrote:

You need to check the ML (aur and dev-public). Devs and TUs must ask on these lists before adding a package in a repo.

I still think would be nice to have a little box on the website. smile


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#4 2009-02-23 09:56:53

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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

Post it as a feature request in the bugtracker, under Project: Arch Linux, Category: Website. If you can include some ideas about how it could be implemented, that would be even better.

To get you started, the code for the Arch website is here: http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=archwe … ;a=summary

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#5 2009-02-23 09:57:24

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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

I think its a nice idea but i dont see how this could get implemented easily without TUs announcing them. Usually when something gets into extra theres discussion about it in arch-dev-public, but almost never in aur-general regarding community.

Snowman wrote:

TUs must ask on these lists before adding a package in a repo.

When did this must happen? I havent seen it in action yet.

PS. Yes Allan, i said i like this tongue

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#6 2009-02-23 10:00:20

Allan
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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

dolby wrote:

PS. Yes Allan, i said i like this tongue

I noticed!  big_smile

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#7 2009-02-23 10:32:04

Stefan Husmann
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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

dolby wrote:

I think its a nice idea but i dont see how this could get implemented easily without TUs announcing them. Usually when something gets into extra theres discussion about it in arch-dev-public, but almost never in aur-general regarding community.

Snowman wrote:

TUs must ask on these lists before adding a package in a repo.

When did this must happen? I havent seen it in action yet.

PS. Yes Allan, i said i like this tongue

Well, there was a proposal not too long ago that TUs need to discuss the addition of a package to [community] if the package has less than 10 votes and less than 1% usage concerning pkgstats. Otherwise there is no need for discussion, and TUs are free to add it to [community]. Yet there was no such discussion.

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#8 2009-02-24 12:29:50

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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

Ok, I've submitted a feature request: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13441?st … &closedto=

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#9 2009-05-28 18:51:49

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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

Woohoo! Looks like someone has volunteered to implement it!

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13441


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#10 2009-05-28 20:30:58

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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

would it not be easier to add a box that shows new packages to Community based on if they existed in the repo before?


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#11 2009-05-28 21:08:35

djgera
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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

Hi lardon, yes will be useful in the web.

Personally I have a simple script to show this:

#!/bin/sh

CONFDIR=$HOME/.pacnotify
if [ ! -d "$CONFDIR" ]; then
  mkdir -p $CONFDIR
fi

# pacman -Sy

for repo in core extra community testing; do
  echo "[$repo]"
  if [ ! -f $CONFDIR/$repo.old.txt ]; then
    pacman -Slq $repo > $CONFDIR/$repo.old.txt
  fi
  pacman -Slq $repo > $CONFDIR/$repo.new.txt
  comm -1 -3 $CONFDIR/$repo.old.txt $CONFDIR/$repo.new.txt > $CONFDIR/$repo.insert.txt
  comm -2 -3 $CONFDIR/$repo.old.txt $CONFDIR/$repo.new.txt > $CONFDIR/$repo.delete.txt
  comm -3 $CONFDIR/$repo.old.txt $CONFDIR/$repo.new.txt
  mv $CONFDIR/$repo.new.txt $CONFDIR/$repo.old.txt
  echo
done

Produce two files for each repo: an "insert" and "delete", with new packages and with deleted packages. Also produce this output: (left: removed packages, right: new packages)

[core]

[extra]
firestarter
k3b-i18n

[community]
        empathy
        farsight2
        libnice
        libtelepathy
        mimetex
        nanoblogger
        python-telepathy
        shorewall6
        telepathy-butterfly
        telepathy-farsight
        telepathy-gabble
        telepathy-idle
        telepathy-mission-control
        telepathy-salut
        telepathy-stream-engine

[testing]
        db
        gcc
        gcc-libs

I hope that you will be useful. Good Luck!

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#12 2009-05-28 21:15:52

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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

maybe it would be nice if we can announce on our blog and that's been subscribed to our planet. is just a suggestion.


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#13 2009-05-29 06:12:52

tomk
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Re: Visibility of promoted packages?

lardon wrote:

Woohoo! Looks like someone has volunteered to implement it!

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13441

Just so you're clear - your feature request has now been assigned to Thayer, a member of the dev team. It was assigned by Romashka, another dev and one of a number of people who monitor the bugtracker and assign tasks to the right people. So Thayer has not "volunteered", and as he has not commented on your request, we do not know yet whether he intends to implement it or not.

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