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frenchy

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From: France

Registered: 2008-10-14

Posts: 10

[solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

Hello Archers, hope it's help...

Afer a day of brainstorming, I found a solution for the blackscreen issue with Xorg-server 1.6. I don't use xorg.conf anymore - any solution I try give me a blackscreen on startup.

I'm running up-to-date archlinux with nvidia videocard and Pekwm on a SyncMaster@1440x900.  I've try all nvidia drivers but without success, the only solution for me was to use xf86-video-nv.

So everything's fine now but the only things that make me sad is the ctrl-alt-backspace that's no longer exist.

I wonder if it's possible to bring it back without using xorg.conf and its

    Section "ServerFlags"
          Option    "DontZap" "false"
    EndSection

because each time I use a xorg.conf, even a minimal one, my desktop goes into black
Thks for you help.

Last edited by frenchy (2009-04-16 16:15:02)

skualito

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Registered: 2008-11-19

Posts: 203

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

I know you said even a minimal xorg.conf gives a blackscreen, but did you try with these only 3 lines in it ?

Section "ServerFlags"
          Option    "DontZap" "false"
    EndSection

My xorg.conf only contains the "Section Files" section, so dzen can find it's terminus fonts,(when I try to no use the hotplugging I also get a frozen blackscreen). All the rest is managed by Xorg/hal. So chances are this 3 lines in xorg.conf will work...
Hope it helps 

EDIT: I just tried, and it's working for me.

Last edited by skualito (2009-04-16 19:35:08)

frenchy

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From: France

Registered: 2008-10-14

Posts: 10

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

I tried but X crashes because of the "nv" driver missing

sfauzia

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Registered: 2009-01-11

Posts: 88

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

I have a very similar problem but I have an Intel integrated graphics card. And sometimes X boots normally and other times it doesn't. It takes one to three times before it actually works. My computer is a tablet, so I have to have an xorg.conf. Any suggestions? My computer (a Lenovo X61t) is running a very lightweight setup with dwm and only a few programs installed, no login manager... Here's my Xorg.conf:

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver        "wacom"
  Identifier    "stylus"
  Option        "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"          # SERIAL ONLY
  Option        "Type"          "stylus"
  Option        "ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
  # http://wiki.informatik.hu-berlin.de/nomads/index.php     
  Option          "Button2" "3"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver        "wacom"
  Identifier    "eraser"
  Option        "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"          # SERIAL ONLY
  Option        "Type"          "eraser"
  Option        "ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
  # http://wiki.informatik.hu-berlin.de/nomads/index.php     
  Option          "Button1" "2"
EndSection 

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver        "wacom"
  Identifier    "cursor"
  Option        "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"          # SERIAL ONLY
  Option        "Type"          "cursor"
  Option        "ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection 

# This section is for the TabletPC that supports touch
Section "InputDevice"
  Driver        "wacom"
  Identifier    "touch"
  Option        "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"          # SERIAL ONLY
  Option        "Type"          "touch"
  Option        "ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"               # Tablet PC ONLY
  Option "BottomY" "953"
  Option "BottomX" "931"
  Option "TopY" "80"
  Option "TopX" "50"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier    "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier    "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier    "Default Screen"
    Monitor        "Configured Monitor"
    Device        "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/local"    # for terminus and other local fonts
    FontPath    "/home/sara/.fonts"        # for local fonts
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout" 
  Identifier    "Default Layout"
  Screen    "Default Screen"
  # http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/srvlayout
  InputDevice    "stylus"    "SendCoreEvents"
  InputDevice    "eraser"    "SendCoreEvents"
  InputDevice    "touch"     "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

tlawson

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From: MN, USA

Registered: 2009-01-24

Posts: 24

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

I have a very similar problem but I have an Intel integrated graphics card. And sometimes X boots normally and other times it doesn't. It takes one to three times before it actually works. My computer is a tablet, so I have to have an xorg.conf. Any suggestions? My computer (a Lenovo X61t) is running a very lightweight setup with dwm and only a few programs installed, no login manager...

I have the same setup and the same problem.  On the advice of this thread I also ended up having to switch to an almost-blank xorg.conf (with DontZap) in order to get it to stop irregularly freezing on me when I tried to start X.

However, the autodetection has screwed up my wacom tablet.  My tablet pen works as a cursor now, but the eraser doesn't.  Even worse, 'xsetwacom list dev' doesn't list anything, meaning I can't set or get any of the properties. Also, 'xinput list' isn't detecting the cursor/eraser/stylus but only a single "PnP Device" .  This is, at least, better than a frozen X server - for now.

Last edited by tlawson (2009-04-23 20:26:49)

sfauzia

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Registered: 2009-01-11

Posts: 88

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

That's just absolutely terrible tlawson. The only thing I've noticed about when X actually starts, one of the indicator lights flashes appropriately. It's the one that (I believe) is activated when you go into hibernate, right next to the notifcation light that has a diagonal Z across it. I've been using the flashing pattern it makes (it doesn't flash at all when X doesn't start) to predict if X will start normally.

tlawson

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From: MN, USA

Registered: 2009-01-24

Posts: 24

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

I always thought that was the hard drive indicator.

What is your solution if it doesn't start properly?  I ended up having to do a hard reboot.

sfauzia

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Registered: 2009-01-11

Posts: 88

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

Interesting. A hard drive indicater... I'll be doubly watchful the next time I do a reboot to see if the light truly does not blink when X doesn't start properly (which is what I've noticed so far). My solution has been to not reboot my computer so often

Last edited by sfauzia (2009-04-25 19:52:41)

stefanwilkens

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From: Enschede, the Netherlands

Registered: 2008-12-10

Posts: 624

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

Hello Archers, hope it's help...

Afer a day of brainstorming, I found a solution for the blackscreen issue with Xorg-server 1.6. I don't use xorg.conf anymore - any solution I try give me a blackscreen on startup.

I'm running up-to-date archlinux with nvidia videocard and Pekwm on a SyncMaster@1440x900.  I've try all nvidia drivers but without success, the only solution for me was to use xf86-video-nv.

So everything's fine now but the only things that make me sad is the ctrl-alt-backspace that's no longer exist.

I wonder if it's possible to bring it back without using xorg.conf and its

    Section "ServerFlags"
          Option    "DontZap" "false"
    EndSection

because each time I use a xorg.conf, even a minimal one, my desktop goes into black
Thks for you help.

If you don't use a config, then the autoprobed config should be in your X logfile. You can take that config and create an xorg.conf based on that, knowing it will work. Then adding the DontZap feat to regain Ctrl+Alt+Backspace love

What's this topic doing in Pacman btw? lol

Last edited by stefanwilkens (2009-04-29 15:52:05)

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sfauzia

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Registered: 2009-01-11

Posts: 88

Re: [solution ?] blackscreen and xorg-server 1.6

Perhaps it's here because the issues were caused by the upgrade to the new X server?