mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

shaohao · 2009-04-25 03:35:12

Does the latest mplayer 29188-1(testing repo) not inlucde the gmplayer UI any more?

Allan · 2009-04-25 03:38:03

No - read the arch-dev-public list (which you should already do given you are using the [testing] repo...).

eldragon · 2009-04-25 03:46:30

Allan wrote:

No - read the arch-dev-public list (which you should already do given you are using the [testing] repo...).

ouch!

good riddance... i never liked the gui, i usually played stuff from the command line to avoid it

bobdob · 2009-04-25 06:52:50

eldragon wrote:

Allan wrote:
No - read the arch-dev-public list (which you should already do given you are using the [testing] repo...).
ouch!
good riddance... i never liked the gui, i usually played stuff from the command line to avoid it

Same, I think other front ends available are far better so it is much lose not including gmplayer.

Shaika-Dzari · 2009-04-25 14:20:59

@ shaohao

If you want a gui, try SMplayer. Far superior to gmplayer

shaohao · 2009-04-25 16:38:34

Shaika-Dzari wrote:

@ shaohao
If you want a gui, try SMplayer. Far superior to gmplayer

THX, but i need a gnomed frontend not KDEd.

evr · 2009-04-25 16:41:22

shaohao wrote:

Shaika-Dzari wrote:
@ shaohao
If you want a gui, try SMplayer. Far superior to gmplayer
THX, but i need a gnomed frontend not KDEd.

try gnome-mplayer

skottish · 2009-04-26 01:56:01

The Debian people are discussing losing it too, and at least one Mplayer dev is interested:

http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mpl … 61414.html

mikesd · 2009-04-26 01:59:30

Never use the GUI. Always launch from the command line or dmenu. Good move!

Cosmin · 2009-05-22 15:11:19

I used the gui. How do I get it back?

Army · 2009-05-22 15:30:51

+1 thumb up for this decision, I always hated the GUI, now I don't use any, mplayer-cli is really great

Rorschach · 2009-05-22 17:46:51

I will maintain a mplayer version with the gui enabled in aur: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26668 .

Imo all other guis for mplayer really suck and it would have been a better decision to support a --no-gui package next to the one we already had than simply dropping the gui without notifying the community before.

kensai · 2009-05-22 18:07:00

Rorschach wrote:

Imo all other guis for mplayer really suck and it would have been a better decision to support a --no-gui package next to the one we already had than simply dropping the gui without notifying the community before.

Errrm, we have a public development list, in which this was announced.

nirvanix · 2009-05-22 18:44:39

Is it possible for someone to make a separate gmplayer package available? Also, for the guys saying 'glad it's gone', etc. - Could you try to use a little tact please and thank you. Many of us were quite happy with gmplayer.

ArchArael · 2009-05-22 18:59:49

I also was disappointed about dropping gui in the mplayer package. I used it myself sometimes, especially when clicking audio files from thunar.
Searching a new gui I tried smplayer and, guys, it is much more consistent with the mplayer-cli keys and shortcuts.
If you install smplayer-themes you can use gtk+ theme and the gui will integrate well in the gtk ambient. (gnome, xfce)
Gnome-mplayer front end is not good as smplayer one. Try smplayer first and if you don't like it then use aur and build gmplayer.

I agree with developers about this change.

EDIT : By the way, from smplayer official site: http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/

* Configurable subtitles. You can choose font and size, and even colors for the subtitles.
* Audio track switching. You can choose the audio track you want to listen. Works with avi and mkv. And of course with DVDs.
* Seeking by mouse wheel. You can use your mouse wheel to go forward or backward in the video.
* Video equalizer, allows you to adjust the brightness, contrast, hue, saturation and gamma of the video image.
* Multiple speed playback. You can play at 2X, 4X... and even in slow motion.
* Filters. Several filters are available: deinterlace, postprocessing, denoise... and even a karaoke filter (voice removal).
* Audio and subtitles delay adjustment. Allows you to sync audio and subtitles.
* Advanced options, such as selecting a demuxer or video & audio codecs.
* Playlist. Allows you to enqueue several files to be played one after each other. Autorepeat and shuffle supported too.
* Preferences dialog. You can easily configure every option of SMPlayer by using a nice preferences dialog.
* Possibility to search automatically for subtitles in opensubtitles.org.
* Translations: currently SMPlayer is translated into more than 20 languages, including Spanish, German, French, Italian, Russian, Chinese, Japanese....
* It's multiplatform. Binaries available for Windows and Linux.
* SMPlayer is under the GPL license.

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DaveCode · 2009-05-23 03:57:30

My opinions were put here,
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 28#p557328

For the time being, I will use Rorschach's AUR build.

But being constructive - mplayer ELF is only 12MB. Why not include both the mplayer ELF and the gmplayer ELF in the main package? Don't they both use all the same shared libraries?

I bet even with both ELFs on board, the whole bundle would weigh less than SMPlayer.

Rorschach, do you suppose you could post straight ELFs instead of a whole package build? Seems a lot simpler.

Raffles10 · 2009-05-23 03:59:11

I preferred mplayer with the gui, at least you had a choice, you could still run it from cli if you wanted to or not as the case may be, but giving people a choice is always better.

Leigh · 2009-05-23 19:16:25

Raffles10 wrote:

I preferred mplayer with the gui, at least you had a choice, you could still run it from cli if you wanted to or not as the case may be, but giving people a choice is always better.

+1 to what Raffles wrote.
I maintain Arch on my Mothers computer and she is always watching movies on it with mplayer. She is fairly lost when it comes to cli stuff. It was no big deal rebuilding mplayer with the gui enabled. Never the less, It just seems odd to have the gui disabled in the build if it doesn't effect using it in cli mode. I'm not really understanding the reasoning in loosing a preference that would make it more functional all around.

genisis300 · 2009-05-23 20:11:46

i was a little miffed when i realised that it had been dropped without any warnings (if you don't trawl the mailing lists) but devs have there reasons and things change so.. nevermind.

only problem now is there don't seem to be any light gui's for mplayer that don't pull in qt or gnome packages.

so can anyone recommend a good gtk interface without any gnome depends? using openbox atm??

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bender02 · 2009-05-23 20:28:01

Oh man, every now and then there was a thread or a bug report asking to remove the gui from mplayer since it pulls in extra dependencies. Of course, when devs decided that they remove the gui, suddenly a spike of people complains that they love the gui and how it was a bad move to remove it. Lose-lose situation.

nirvanix · 2009-05-23 20:28:20

skottish wrote:

The Debian people are discussing losing it too, and at least one Mplayer dev is interested:
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mpl … 61414.html

Oh, is it the mplayer group itself that decided to drop gmplayer from the main package? Why otherwise would debian lose it as well as us? I guess it's a point of confusion for me - I had thought the arch devs decided to dump it on their own, but maybe not.

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stefanwilkens · 2009-05-23 21:01:53

nirvanix wrote:

skottish wrote:
The Debian people are discussing losing it too, and at least one Mplayer dev is interested:
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mpl … 61414.html
Oh, is it the mplayer group itself that decided to drop gmplayer from the main package? Why otherwise would debian lose it as well as us? I guess it's a point of confusion for me - I had thought the arch devs decided to dump it on their own, but maybe not.

Arch devs decided this, read the public mail list archives

http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch … 11225.html

wolfvorkian · 2009-05-23 22:08:18

Download this PGKBUILD, replace the one in your ~/abs/mlayer with it and if you have subversion installed, you can build the latest and greatest Mplayer with a gui whenever you like.

http://tinyurl.com/py3h2k

ataraxia · 2009-05-23 22:17:56

The mplayer devs recommend packagers not ship gmplayer, as even they don't actually care about it or maintain it any more than is required to make it continue to compile. They recommend using one of the third-party front-ends, of which they keep a list on the mplayer page.

I was one of those who used gmplayer, but I've switched to gnome-mplayer, which is very simple and doesn't actually have any GNOME deps (it's just a GTK+ app). Many of us probably already have it installed since it's required by gecko-mediaplayer.

I support the Arch devs in this change. Disagreeing with the wishes of upstream is rarely a good idea, as it will quickly make the packager's job more difficult.

ArchArael · 2009-05-24 10:30:25

ataraxia wrote:

The mplayer devs recommend packagers not ship gmplayer, as even they don't actually care about it or maintain it any more than is required to make it continue to compile. They recommend using one of the third-party front-ends, of which they keep a list on the mplayer page.
I was one of those who used gmplayer, but I've switched to gnome-mplayer, which is very simple and doesn't actually have any GNOME deps (it's just a GTK+ app). Many of us probably already have it installed since it's required by gecko-mediaplayer.
I support the Arch devs in this change. Disagreeing with the wishes of upstream is rarely a good idea, as it will quickly make the packager's job more difficult.

Wow....I always used mplayer-plugin but gecko-mediaplayer is far far better. This has made me also re-valuate gnome-mplayer. Thank you.

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