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#26 2009-05-24 16:12:51

ataraxia
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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

ArchArael wrote:

Wow....I always used mplayer-plugin but gecko-mediaplayer is far far better. This has made me also re-valuate gnome-mplayer. Thank you.

gecko-mediaplayer, among other improvements, doesn't crash on apple.com trailers. mplayer-plugin has gotten very old and crusty, and is very hard to maintain nowadays.

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#27 2009-05-24 17:42:51

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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

I don't understand what all the fuss is about...the gmplayer binary was little more than a skinned version of mplayer.  You can still use mplayer with GUI file managers the same as before (e.g. double-click a file to load it in mplayer)...and the mplayer keyboard shortcuts are dead easy to use and remember.

I've seen a lot of complaints about the GUI being removed, but not a single reason why it should have stayed.  What exactly are you all missing?


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#28 2009-05-24 17:47:17

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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

I agree with you as far as videos go.  However, it is annoying if you double click an audio file.  Then you have no window to use the keyboard shortcuts on...  I used to use gmplayer to play podcasts which I like to pause when needed so I have started using gnome-mplayer.  It is actually worse that a nicely theme gmplayer for playing audio.

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#29 2009-05-24 20:07:54

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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

thayer wrote:

I don't understand what all the fuss is about...the gmplayer binary was little more than a skinned version of mplayer.  You can still use mplayer with GUI file managers the same as before (e.g. double-click a file to load it in mplayer)...and the mplayer keyboard shortcuts are dead easy to use and remember.

I've seen a lot of complaints about the GUI being removed, but not a single reason why it should have stayed.  What exactly are you all missing?

I suppose most of the stronger reaction are because it came unexpected to those who did not keep up with the dev mailing lists smile Their problem, ofcource. But as mentionned, a significant change in a popular package might have been better off with a news report. Water under the bridge.

Other than that, gnome-mplayer is a crap pile and smplayer seems to have some dependencies people disliked. (?). The mplayer GUI was simple and fairly small, however old and shitty it was.. it did the job for those who wanted a GUI I suppose.

Does it matter much? no. mplayer with gui is in the AUR. Might be somewhat confusing for less arch-experienced users as we deviate from the current norm but it shouldn't be much of a problem. Heck we could probably add a package to a user-maintained repository, any takers?

Tell you one thing though, we're going to have quite some topics in the line of "I installed mplayer but I can't find it" from GUI users big_smile

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#30 2009-05-24 21:13:21

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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

thayer wrote:

Tell you one thing though, we're going to have quite some topics in the line of "I installed mplayer but I can't find it" from GUI users big_smile

and of course, we will all scream: search the forums!!! and point them to this thread wink

fwiw, the gui was useless, much better to use the keyboard shortcuts anyway wink tbh, im glad its gone

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#31 2009-05-25 03:21:04

thayer
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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

Allan wrote:

I agree with you as far as videos go.  However, it is annoying if you double click an audio file.  Then you have no window to use the keyboard shortcuts on...  I used to use gmplayer to play podcasts which I like to pause when needed so I have started using gnome-mplayer.  It is actually worse that a nicely theme gmplayer for playing audio.

Good point Allan, I never used mplayer for audio so that never occurred to me...then again, why on earth use mplayer for audio when xmms is so much better!  I jest of course smile


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#32 2009-05-30 04:40:47

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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

guys smplayer wants to know which version of mplayer we're using: 1.0rc1, 1.0rc2 or 1.0rc3?

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#33 2009-05-30 04:52:49

Allan
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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

Just pick the newest version

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#34 2009-06-08 15:11:47

ConnorBehan
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Re: mplayer 29188-1 doesnot include gmplayer UI?

I have mixed feelings about this. They're all moot because mplayer is one of the packages I'm most used to compiling but here goes:

* "Gmplayer" filled a nice gap in my array of desktop icons. Yes I still use desktop icons for some reason.
* I admire programmers with the guts to make a minimalist GUI that doesn't look nice or follow Gnome or KDE standards.
* Toggling audio and video drivers and framedropping / hard framedropping and seeing how far along your file has played were easier with gmplayer.
* I can still use mplayer from Thunar easily.
* The fact that opening files from the nonstandard gmplayer dialog only required a click and not a double click was super sexy.

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