[SOLVED] Graphical glitches after xorg update.

Szelek · 2009-11-01 14:34:29

Few hours ago I have updated whole system and from this moment graphics started to crash. At the begining everything looks good, but after few minutes everything starts to look like this:

Is anyone having similiar thing?

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Disabling KMS solves the problem... at least it was solved few updates before

Changed back to [UNSOLVED]

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Now it's working once again. Changing subject of the topic to [solved]

Last edited by Szelek (2009-12-28 14:44:58)

MadTux · 2009-11-01 16:31:03

What are your hardware specs and what graphics driver do you use? On one of my computers with Intel graphics chip, after the upgrade, X frooze the machine. I had to downgrade X to get everything working again. On the other machine with ATI graphics chip, everything went well.
There have been several posts in the forum with problems after the upgrade. Depending on your card, there are several possible solutions, that may also work for you.

Aphex · 2009-11-01 16:54:58

Yes, and it gets so worse, that after a time noeting is readable anymore... first one latter is affected and then anpother letter, and another.

Hardware is a ati radeon 7500 with the radeon driver.

MadTux · 2009-11-01 17:15:11

Aphex wrote:

Yes, and it gets so worse, that after a time noeting is readable anymore... first one latter is affected and then anpother letter, and another.
Hardware is a ati radeon 7500 with the radeon driver.

Do you use kernel mode setting (new with kernel 2.6.31)? If yes, you could try the "nomodeset" parameter in grub.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI … _.28KMS.29

That fixed some problems with my ATI card.

Szelek · 2009-11-01 17:56:50

MadTux wrote:

Aphex wrote:
Yes, and it gets so worse, that after a time noeting is readable anymore... first one latter is affected and then anpother letter, and another.
Hardware is a ati radeon 7500 with the radeon driver.
Do you use kernel mode setting (new with kernel 2.6.31)? If yes, you could try the "nomodeset" parameter in grub.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI … _.28KMS.29
That fixed some problems with my ATI card.

1. I have radeon 7500 and I'm using radeon driver.
2. I have disabled KMS and now everything seems to work allright, so that's good.
3. The problem seems to be in xorg update. Before the update I had KMS enabled and everything worked allright. Now with KMS enabled it is just like Aphex wrote.

Aphex · 2009-11-01 18:00:59

MadTux wrote:

Aphex wrote:
Yes, and it gets so worse, that after a time noeting is readable anymore... first one latter is affected and then anpother letter, and another.
Hardware is a ati radeon 7500 with the radeon driver.
Do you use kernel mode setting (new with kernel 2.6.31)? If yes, you could try the "nomodeset" parameter in grub.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI … _.28KMS.29
That fixed some problems with my ATI card.

Up to now, that works. Thanks!

quigybo · 2009-11-03 00:52:28

Hey, I am having the same issue with the fonts etc. It was fine with just KMS, but since the xorg/mesa update it was started playing up. I thought it was supposed to get better not worse when they came through...

But anyway I was just wondering if anybody knows of a proper solution that doesn't involve disabling KMS, I have already gotten used to it and kinda like it, installed plymouth etc?

Thanks.

cro · 2009-11-03 14:59:00

I have similar graphic artifacts on my Samsung P35 Notebook (Radeon 9700) with KMS enabled since the update at 31.10.2009 (EDIT: sry I meant 02.11.2009).
Also, I have random freezes.
When I disable KMS it almost works but graphic output is generally very slow.
I will try to get back to xf86-video-ati-6.12.4. Is there a Website where I can download older archlinux packages?

Why is there a strange git version (6.12.99.git20091014-1) of a graphics driver in (sort of) "stable" anyway??

Last edited by cro (2009-11-04 02:56:35)

Szelek · 2009-11-03 17:41:24

after disabling KMS fonts are looking fine but the volume and brightness splash in gnome looks crappy

GazonkFoo · 2009-11-03 23:58:15

cro wrote:

I have similar graphic artifacts on my Samsung P35 Notebook (Radeon 9700) with KMS enabled since the update at 31.10.2009.
Also, I have random freezes.
When I disable KMS it almost works but graphic output is generally very slow.
I will try to get back to xf86-video-ati-6.12.4. Is there a Website where I can download older archlinux packages?
Why is there a strange git version (6.12.99.git20091014-1) of a graphics driver in (sort of) "stable" anyway??

i have the same hardware and experiencing similar problem (glitches, freezes, very poor performance without KMS)!

for old packages try looking in your pacman cache under /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
if you can't find it there i can send you my last version (xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz).

i can confirm that KMS worked before the xorg updates but i haven't tried downgrading yet ... do you think it is sufficient to downgrade the ati-driver?

cro · 2009-11-04 02:53:00

GazonkFoo wrote:

for old packages try looking in your pacman cache under /var/cache/pacman/pkg/

I had already cleaned the cache. I should know better than that right after updating important packages.

GazonkFoo wrote:

if you can't find it there i can send you my last version (xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz).

Thanks for the offer, but I found a xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz and a xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz on some oudated mirrors. xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz works with KMS, but still poor GUI performance. With xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz I now get

(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
(EE) Failed to load module "radeon" (loader failed, 7)
(EE) No drivers available.

Can that be or is the package corrupt? Unfortunately there is no integrity checking for older packages.

GazonkFoo wrote:

do you think it is sufficient to downgrade the ati-driver?

I don't know, but it doesn't seem so.
I fear we have to wait till the xorg-ati guys solve the problems.

cro · 2009-11-04 14:15:56

Now I got a freeze with xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-2 and KMS disabled. How could that be?
Those freezes usually happen right after KDE start when the session should be restored, but sometimes at logout or at other times.

pinger · 2009-12-02 07:15:43

I am experiencing similar issues with an old mobility Radeon 9800 and the xf86-video-ati driver. Initially all looks fine but xorg crashes after 2 minutes and when gdm restarts screen corruption starts, gradually becoming worse and worse. Setting nomodeset in the Grub boot line does not seem to have any effect. Is anybody also experiencing this?

Thanks in advance

riivo · 2009-12-02 08:50:40

pinger wrote:

I am experiencing similar issues with an old mobility Radeon 9800 and the xf86-video-ati driver. Initially all looks fine but xorg crashes after 2 minutes and when gdm restarts screen corruption starts, gradually becoming worse and worse. Setting nomodeset in the Grub boot line does not seem to have any effect. Is anybody also experiencing this?
Thanks in advance

Did you try adding "radeon.modeset=0" too?

MONVMENTVM · 2009-12-02 22:14:12

riivo wrote:

pinger wrote:
I am experiencing similar issues with an old mobility Radeon 9800 and the xf86-video-ati driver. Initially all looks fine but xorg crashes after 2 minutes and when gdm restarts screen corruption starts, gradually becoming worse and worse. Setting nomodeset in the Grub boot line does not seem to have any effect. Is anybody also experiencing this?
Thanks in advance
Did you try adding "radeon.modeset=0" too?

Yep... for me the same thing. And "radeon.modeset=0" isn't a recognized kernel parameter on my machine and therefore ignored.

cro · 2009-12-03 01:07:47

I really hope that an update that solves the problem will come soon. I have real trouble working with my notebook. And I see no alternative. I just thought about trying the propietory drivers as a temporary workaround but on aur.archlinux.org I read that these won't work with xorg-server-1.7.1 and above for the time being.
And as I already described, neither old drivers nor disabling KMS works for me in any combination. At the moment I live with xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-2, KMS enabled, graphical glitches and fortunately seldom freezes. EDIT: I forgot to mention the poor GUI performance (Konqueror takes 5 seconds to open and render a directory).

By the way, who marked this thread as [solved] ??

Last edited by cro (2009-12-03 15:15:45)

quigybo · 2009-12-03 13:53:23

I have been using radeon.agpmode=-1 lately and that seems to work fine for the time being, and lets me keep KMS on.

pinger · 2009-12-04 14:13:54

Thanks for all your answers, unfortunately none of the suggestions seem to have any effect so far. Sadly this is the first time in my Linux years that I find myself forced to boot into another OS in order to be able to get actual work done, as my setup becomes unreadable after about 15 minutes of use. I don't get how a bug this serious can go unresolved for weeks on end.

riivo · 2009-12-08 15:52:20

Seems to be solved with xorg-server 1.7.3 and/or kernel 2.6.32 and/or xf86-video-ati 6.12.99.git20091207. Good performance and no glitches.

pinger · 2009-12-09 06:43:59

Just upgraded to xorg-server 1.7.3 (only upgrade available through pacman at this point). Now the glitches are gone... because my system is freezing solid after 15 seconds. Nothing but a hard shutdown works. This is really a joke now.

riivo · 2009-12-09 17:12:36

pinger wrote:

Just upgraded to xorg-server 1.7.3 (only upgrade available through pacman at this point). Now the glitches are gone... because my system is freezing solid after 15 seconds. Nothing but a hard shutdown works. This is really a joke now.

Try the new kernel and drivers from testing.

el_zoona · 2009-12-11 06:36:37

Same problem here.

I was shocked at first, then I though of something related to fonts (since at first, only fonts started to look funny), changed the DPI (above 105 the glitch disappears, but you know, at 1024 with DPI above 104 makes things look a little bit too much big), then I changed the font's render (from LCD to Monochrome), that way the fonts looks fine but some parts of the GUI (title bars, pager, tray icons) still looking strange.

Now I'm using the "disabling KMS" fix and so far it looks fine, hope it keeps that way.

EDIT: Sorry, the computer is an Inspiron 600m with an ATI Mobility 9000 video card.

UPDATE: Without KMS the problem it's gone . It's working fine right now. Thanks for the help.

Last edited by el_zoona (2009-12-11 18:18:37)

pinger · 2009-12-12 18:12:48

riivo wrote:

pinger wrote:
Just upgraded to xorg-server 1.7.3 (only upgrade available through pacman at this point). Now the glitches are gone... because my system is freezing solid after 15 seconds. Nothing but a hard shutdown works. This is really a joke now.
Try the new kernel and drivers from testing.

I did, it didn't help, and now booting takes 5 minutes as the kernel waits for some r200 firmware to load/timeout.

Is anyone aware of a bug report on this anywhere?

TIA

riivo · 2009-12-13 17:47:37

pinger wrote:

riivo wrote:
pinger wrote:
Just upgraded to xorg-server 1.7.3 (only upgrade available through pacman at this point). Now the glitches are gone... because my system is freezing solid after 15 seconds. Nothing but a hard shutdown works. This is really a joke now.
Try the new kernel and drivers from testing.
I did, it didn't help, and now booting takes 5 minutes as the kernel waits for some r200 firmware to load/timeout.
Is anyone aware of a bug report on this anywhere?
TIA

Yes. There's a fix here

antonikus · 2009-12-14 15:01:41

cro wrote:

Now I got a freeze with xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-2 and KMS disabled. How could that be?
Those freezes usually happen right after KDE start when the session should be restored, but sometimes at logout or at other times.

Same issue here, but using gnome.

When loging in using nomodeset xorg would just restart out of nowhere, in middle of typing something or just moving the mouse.
With kms enabled, I get shitty fonts and graphics artifacts all over the place so its unusable.

latest ati-driver, have radeon rs690 chip, xpress 1270.

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#1 2009-11-01 14:34:29

[SOLVED] Graphical glitches after xorg update.

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