Synaptics touchpad randomly middle clicking?

SomeGuyDude · 2010-04-19 02:06:12

Lately it seems like my touchpad registers left clicks as middle clicks sporadically. There's no way to "replicate" it, but a lot of times if I click a link on a page, it opens in a new tab; then if I select a tab, it closes. I'm 100% sure I'm not accidentally two-finger tapping (I have my middle click set to 2-finger taps), because it sometimes does it just when I use the actual button.

My FDI file has not changed in the past year or so, so I don't know what could be the problem.

anrxc · 2010-04-19 16:03:25

I noticed a problem when selecting text (left click + swipe up on the pad), at least 50% of the time it will paste what I copied thus far. Just like a middle click. I have middle click mapped to close browser tabs, sometimes a press on the pad closes my tab instead of selecting. This sounds like the same problem. My synaptics config didn't change either, sensitivity and pressure settings are all the same, yet this is broken...

Up until now I was willing to settle that (barely used, 2 years old)touchpad is broken. Now I'm not sure.

SomeGuyDude · 2010-04-19 17:24:15

I'm wondering if it was a kernel snafu now. That was really the only interesting update in a while.

SomeGuyDude · 2010-04-25 13:59:35

For the record, still doin' this and no idea how to fix it.

Bralkein · 2010-04-25 16:35:59

I've seen hardware issues like this before. Touchpads can go wrong for seemingly no reason and start doing all kinds of funny things. Have you tested it with a different operating system? Even just a livecd of another distro might help you to diagnose the issue.

Leonid.I · 2010-04-25 17:28:34

Bralkein wrote:

I've seen hardware issues like this before. Touchpads can go wrong for seemingly no reason and start doing all kinds of funny things. Have you tested it with a different operating system? Even just a livecd of another distro might help you to diagnose the issue.

I can kind a confirm that... when I use my laptop at relatively high altitudes, the touchpad barely works in Arch, and completely irresponsive in Win XP. However, at the sea level all is back to normal

epsilom · 2010-04-26 06:42:43

same thing happens to me

while · 2010-06-20 04:47:30

Any news on this? I have the same problem and it's bugging the shit out of me.

b4d · 2010-08-04 11:27:32

Same here

Calmatory · 2010-08-05 01:19:51

Happens to me also, with a month old installation(has been happening from the very start). Ubuntu 10.04 isn't doing this as far as I can tell, neither is Windows 7. This is certainly Arch specific issue.

sas · 2010-09-13 13:38:28

Also happens to me sporadically. Has anybody had any luck with this?

Since yesterday an additional, even worse problem appeared: When clicking the touchpad's left button (note: actual button, not tapping!) it either doesn't register the click at all, or treats it as if the button were pressed down *and not released afterwards*. Don't know if it's related to the other issue.

I think I remember the same thing already appearing a few months back, but it had disappeared since then, not sure whether it was anything I did, or just due to driver upgrades.

(When unloading the psmouse module and using an external USB mouse instead of the touchpad, everything works fine.)

quigybo · 2010-09-13 19:30:13

A two-finger tap can be set to respond as a middle click by setting the "TapButton2" option, maybe it thinks that you are doing a two-finger tap? You could try either disabling this option or reducing the sensitivity of a two-finger tap.

b4d · 2010-09-14 05:13:16

So still nothing new about this utterly annoying thing?

stefanwilkens · 2010-09-14 09:18:39

could any of you provide an Xorg.0.log?

hal should no longer be required, things work perfectly well through evdev and I can't seem to be able to replicate this issue on my laptop (using chrome browser).

could it be that you are all using firefox?
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Syn … pad_events
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Synaptic … th_Firefox

b4d · 2010-09-14 09:27:13

Here my log http://pastebin.com/VLCRu16X

I'll check the pages you posted

stefanwilkens · 2010-09-14 10:48:12

could you confirm that you're using firefox?

b4d · 2010-09-14 13:01:09

Oh, sorry, forgot to confirm, yes, using firefox, I've played with settings mentioned in your links, we'll see how it goes. Because now when I look back I really can't recall if the doubleclick mystery happens only in FF or everywhere

Liquen · 2010-09-14 16:20:31

I also have been experiencing this problem for some time. I just spent some time testing: it happens both on Firefox and Chromium.

stefanwilkens · 2010-09-14 16:26:58

Liquen wrote:

I also have been experiencing this problem for some time. I just spent some time testing: it happens both on Firefox and Chromium.

how is your system setup? xorg.conf? are you using the synaptics driver? could you post any related configuration files?

Liquen · 2010-09-14 18:05:10

stefanwilkens wrote:

how is your system setup? xorg.conf? are you using the synaptics driver? could you post any related configuration files?

No xorg.conf. But I noticed there are some files inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/. One of them is 10-synaptics.conf with the following content:

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "touchpad catchall"
        Driver "synaptics"
        MatchIsTouchpad "on"
          Option "TapButton1" "1"
          Option "TapButton2" "2"
          Option "TapButton3" "3"
EndSection

I couldn't find any other synaptics related config file besides the one above. Also, package xf86-input-synaptics 1.2.2-2 is installed.

I'm not sure if this is important, but I have an HP Pavilion dv2000 and use GNOME.

Thank you for your help! Let me know if you need any further information.

Last edited by Liquen (2010-09-14 18:07:36)

codycarey · 2010-09-14 18:55:30

Can you post the output of 'synclient -l'?

Liquen · 2010-09-14 19:04:37

codycarey wrote:

Can you post the output of 'synclient -l'?

There you are:

Parameter settings:
    LeftEdge                = 1752
    RightEdge               = 5192
    TopEdge                 = 1620
    BottomEdge              = 4236
    FingerLow               = 24
    FingerHigh              = 29
    FingerPress             = 255
    MaxTapTime              = 180
    MaxTapMove              = 221
    MaxDoubleTapTime        = 180
    SingleTapTimeout        = 180
    ClickTime               = 100
    FastTaps                = 0
    EmulateMidButtonTime    = 75
    EmulateTwoFingerMinZ    = 280
    EmulateTwoFingerMinW    = 7
    VertScrollDelta         = 100
    HorizScrollDelta        = 100
    VertEdgeScroll          = 1
    HorizEdgeScroll         = 1
    CornerCoasting          = 0
    VertTwoFingerScroll     = 0
    HorizTwoFingerScroll    = 0
    MinSpeed                = 0.4
    MaxSpeed                = 0.7
    AccelFactor             = 0.00995223
    TrackstickSpeed         = 40
    EdgeMotionMinZ          = 29
    EdgeMotionMaxZ          = 159
    EdgeMotionMinSpeed      = 1
    EdgeMotionMaxSpeed      = 401
    EdgeMotionUseAlways     = 0
    UpDownScrolling         = 1
    LeftRightScrolling      = 1
    UpDownScrollRepeat      = 1
    LeftRightScrollRepeat   = 1
    ScrollButtonRepeat      = 100
    TouchpadOff             = 0
    GuestMouseOff           = 0
    LockedDrags             = 0
    LockedDragTimeout       = 5000
    RTCornerButton          = 0
    RBCornerButton          = 0
    LTCornerButton          = 0
    LBCornerButton          = 0
    TapButton1              = 1
    TapButton2              = 3
    TapButton3              = 2
    ClickFinger1            = 1
    ClickFinger2            = 1
    ClickFinger3            = 2
    CircularScrolling       = 0
    CircScrollDelta         = 0.1
    CircScrollTrigger       = 0
    CircularPad             = 0
    PalmDetect              = 0
    PalmMinWidth            = 10
    PalmMinZ                = 199
    CoastingSpeed           = 0
    PressureMotionMinZ      = 29
    PressureMotionMaxZ      = 159
    PressureMotionMinFactor = 1
    PressureMotionMaxFactor = 1
    GrabEventDevice         = 1
    TapAndDragGesture       = 1
    AreaLeftEdge            = 0
    AreaRightEdge           = 0
    AreaTopEdge             = 0
    AreaBottomEdge          = 0

codycarey · 2010-09-14 19:36:29

What is the output of 'dmesg | grep input'

Liquen · 2010-09-15 04:32:29

codycarey wrote:

What is the output of 'dmesg | grep input'

As follows:

input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input0
input: Video Bus as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:01/input/input1
input: Sleep Button as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0C0E:00/input/input2
input: Power Button as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/input3
input: Power Button as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input4
input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input5
input: HP WMI hotkeys as /devices/virtual/input/input6
input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input7
input: USB 2.0 Camera as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-5/1-5:1.0/input/input8
input: HID 062a:0000 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.4/2-1.4:1.0/input/input9
generic-usb 0003:062A:0000.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [HID 062a:0000] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.4/input0

Marklar · 2010-10-03 12:44:12

I think this may have been fixed in an upgrade recently

I don't believe it's Arch specific , I observed this in Arch, Fedora, and openSUSE in both Gnome and KDE

I also experienced this in both Firefox and Chromium.

It has been extremely annoying but I last night I did a full system upgrade (I also switched my desktop environment to LXDE if that could have any affect)

It's only been a few hours but I haven't noticed this problem since then

Anyone confirm or am I celebrating too early?

Last edited by Marklar (2010-10-03 12:44:45)

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