XORG 1.8: so what does it imply?

spiridow · 2010-06-21 08:12:56

So I did a pacman -Syu this morning. Seems to work fine, except that my keyboard layout was reset to default. How can I change it back ? Also does it mean that we dont need hal anymore?

Cdh · 2010-06-21 08:19:46

Temporary you can use setxkbmap de/us/...
I used the xfce settings to change it.
The right way would probably changing a udev rule.

You can disable hal and try it.

spiridow · 2010-06-21 08:31:56

Woot, woot. One daemon less in my DAEMONS list setxkbmap works great for now. Thanks!

EDIT: looks like devices won't appear in pcmanfm anymore without hal.

Last edited by spiridow (2010-06-21 08:34:27)

xamaco · 2010-06-21 08:47:12

Hal is still needed by several applications including pcmanfm.

spiridow · 2010-06-21 08:49:10

xamaco wrote:

Hal is still needed by several applications including pcmanfm.

Okay, better keep it then. Thanks.

tomk · 2010-06-21 10:22:08

There is a long thread in the testing sub-forum about xorg 1.8 - you should read it. The xorg wiki page has also been updated.

More generally, asking if you don't need hal anymore suggests that you don't really know what hal is, what it does, or whether any of your other applications use it. I would suggest you try to become more familiar with the way your system works.

Erus_Iluvatar · 2010-06-21 10:41:37

To have the question answered here :

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "evdev keyboard catchall"
        MatchIsKeyboard "on"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Driver "evdev"
        Option "xkb_layout" "fr"
        Option "xkb_variant" "oss"
        Option "xkb_options" "compose:menu"
EndSection

in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf

fubar0 · 2010-06-22 13:10:16

Yes, that is correct.

The same Problem is described here:
http://bleedux.wordpress.com/2010/06/22 … -xorg-1-8/
If you had set the keymap im your WM before, it won't work after update.
The simplest solution is to set your keymap globally and independently in the XORG config files.

However, the arch wiki on Xorg
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … 20G_Laptop
still says that keyboard settings via Xorg is deprecated.

That might not be true any more, now that HAL has been removed.
In good old HAL times, you were advised by the wiki to set keymaps in
/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi
which obviously no longer works.

Guide to set (non-US) keymaps after update to Xorg 1.8: http://bleedux.wordpress.com/2010/06/22 … us-keymap/

Last edited by fubar0 (2010-06-22 14:04:22)

rent0n · 2010-06-22 13:59:48

I was wondering where to put keyboard layout too.

Following the (outdated?) wiki I created a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-keyboard.conf file

Section "InputClass"
    Identifier             "Keyboard Defaults"
    MatchIsKeyboard        "yes"
    Option                 "XkbLayout" "it"
    Option                 "XkbModel" "acer_laptop"
EndSection

But maybe it's better to add these options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf?

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "evdev keyboard catchall"
        MatchIsKeyboard "on"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Driver "evdev"
        Option "xkb_layout" "it"
        Option "xkb_model" "acer_laptop"
EndSection

Thank you.

Last edited by rent0n (2010-06-22 14:00:24)

tomk · 2010-06-22 15:22:37

fubar0 wrote:

However, the arch wiki on Xorg
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … 20G_Laptop
still says that keyboard settings via Xorg is deprecated.

Huh? That links to a xorg.conf.d/ example.

rent0n · 2010-06-22 17:22:37

rent0n wrote:

I was wondering where to put keyboard layout too.
Following the (outdated?) wiki I created a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-keyboard.conf file
Section "InputClass"
    Identifier             "Keyboard Defaults"
    MatchIsKeyboard        "yes"
    Option                 "XkbLayout" "it"
    Option                 "XkbModel" "acer_laptop"
EndSection
But maybe it's better to add these options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf?
Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "evdev keyboard catchall"
        MatchIsKeyboard "on"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Driver "evdev"
        Option "xkb_layout" "it"
        Option "xkb_model" "acer_laptop"
EndSection
Thank you.

...or maybe directly into /etc/X11/xorg.conf (I don't have one right now)?
Please enlighten me.

Last edited by rent0n (2010-06-22 17:23:08)

ataraxia · 2010-06-22 17:35:30

I suggest to put any customization directly in xorg.conf, since that has priority over the xorg.conf.d files.

fubar0 · 2010-06-22 18:10:12

tomk wrote:

fubar0 wrote:
However, the arch wiki on Xorg
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … 20G_Laptop
still says that keyboard settings via Xorg is deprecated.
Huh? That links to a xorg.conf.d/ example.

Yeah, you are right. I meant
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … recated.29

fubar0 · 2010-06-22 18:12:13

ataraxia wrote:

I suggest to put any customization directly in xorg.conf, since that has priority over the xorg.conf.d files.

After a contemporary installation, you don't necessarily have one single xorg.conf, but everything spread over several files.
Cheers

tomk · 2010-06-22 22:49:37

fubar0, you're missing the point. Typically, distros will provide default settings by installing files under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ e.g. the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf file that is now included in Arch's nvidia-utils package. If the user changes this file, it will just be reset back to the default the next time the nvidia package is upgraded. Therefore the user should place their custom settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which does not belong to any package, and will therefore be retained during upgrades.

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