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Wayfly

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From: Chengdu China

Registered: 2023-07-09

Posts: 24

(Sorry for past behavior.)为过去的行为道歉

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=287516

I am ashamed of my behavior, as well as ashamed of myself. I should not have posted article without carefully checking the wiki and forums. And me even wasted the resources of the site by posting another article:https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=287515

Lone_wolf say:
I suggest you stop using yay until you understand how pacman  ,Arch User Repository and makepkg work.
For updating your system, use pacman -Syu , not yay.

My sincere apologies to @Lone_wolf and the Arch community!

Last edited by Wayfly (2023-08-26 02:20:40)

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seth

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Registered: 2012-09-03

Posts: 52,269

Re: (Sorry for past behavior.)为过去的行为道歉

The only people how need to be ashamed are the ones that grace the world with naughty AUR helpers

Understand that there's proabaly a massive linguistic barrier and a cultural gap: you don't need to be ashamed for using an AUR help of questionable quality.
You ran into one of yay's many bugs, obviously had trouble to understand it's manpage or --help output (idk. how well it's internationalized), asked for help and Lone_Wolf told you that you can avoid bugs in AUR helper by not relying on AUR helpers -  that's mostly the reason why the forum exits
Mistakes are considered to be a learning opportunity in western societies.

You can btw. ask in chinese on https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=30 and while I can't juge the quality of chinese/english translations of https://www.deepl.com/translator - the languages that I do speak produce scaringly good results.

---- Here's the deepl.com translation ----

唯一需要感到羞愧的人是那些使用淘气的 AUR 助手的人。;)

要知道，我们之间可能存在巨大的语言障碍和文化差异：使用质量有问题的 AUR 帮助并不需要感到羞愧。
您遇到了 yay 的众多 bug 之一，显然是难以理解它的 manpage 或 --help 输出（我不知道它的国际化程度如何），于是向 Lone_Wolf 求助，Lone_Wolf 告诉您可以通过不依赖 AUR 助手来避免 AUR 助手中的 bug - 这就是论坛退出的主要原因
在西方社会，错误被认为是学习的机会。

顺便说一下，您可以在 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=30 上用中文提问，虽然我无法评判 https://www.deepl.com/translator 的中文/英文翻译的质量，但我所掌握的语言会产生好得吓人的结果。

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Wayfly

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From: Chengdu China

Registered: 2023-07-09

Posts: 24

Re: (Sorry for past behavior.)为过去的行为道歉

Thank you for telling me this, I was very ashamed yesterday because of this and having your reminder made me feel a little better and showed me the differences between cultures.
Oh gosh, I just realized my post title is in Chinese!
Oh, Grammatik.oh my God. Please forgive my poor English.
:)谢谢你告诉我这些，昨天因为这件事我感到十分羞愧，有了你的提醒后才好受了一些，并且你告诉文化之间的差异.

Last edited by Wayfly (2023-08-26 03:53:35)

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ewaller

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From: Pasadena, CA

Registered: 2009-07-13

Posts: 19,822

Re: (Sorry for past behavior.)为过去的行为道歉

:)Thank you for telling me this, I was very ashamed yesterday because of this and having your reminder made me feel a little better and showed me the differences between cultures.:p
Oh gosh, I just realized my post title is in Chinese!:o
Oh, Grammatik.oh my God. Please forgive my poor English.:o
:)谢谢你告诉我这些，昨天因为这件事我感到十分羞愧，有了你的提醒后才好受了一些，并且你告诉文化之间的差异。:p

Bah!,  I guarantee your English is better than my Chinese.  I (We) don't judge on the basis of that.  And we attempt to accommodate cultural and political differences.
All we demand is that members take the initiative to learn.

You are doing just fine.

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Wayfly

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From: Chengdu China

Registered: 2023-07-09

Posts: 24

Re: (Sorry for past behavior.)为过去的行为道歉

Thank you very much.

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