Archie Live Cd 0.6RC5

firewalker · 2006-12-16 22:51:23

Have anyone used Archie Live Cd 0.6RC5 ??? I recently downloaded this version and can't make it work. I have tried it to three computers and always the same problem occurs. When the cd tries to start it can't pass the point

Scanning ide partitions [BUSY]

It stays there for ever. I tried it to a virtual machine (Vmware in my arch) and it works fine without problems. I tried it to a virtual machine in Windows and it also works fine. Have anyone the same problem ???

P.S. I tried to make a question to Archie's forum but I can't sign up. The following error occurs:

Could not connect to smtp host : 553648127 :
DEBUG MODE
Line : 112
File : smtp.php

dtw · 2006-12-16 23:32:34

I think Archie is now defunct.

hugin · 2006-12-18 20:52:32

dtw wrote:

I think Archie is now defunct.

Unfortunatly, I have gotten the same feeling.

/swogs

ndlarsen · 2006-12-18 21:38:10

firewalker wrote:

Scanning ide partitions [BUSY]

Same problem here I am afraid.

Cotton · 2006-12-18 23:27:37

I've used it successfully on two different desktop machines and one laptop. Have not seen this bug.

md5sum reports: 18f6e69fde0fc33691a6e02842ff608d archie-0.6rc5-xfce.iso

Did you get the iso via torrent or ftp? Seems like http://archie.dotsrc.org/ is struggling to respond at times.

Is it an acpi issue? Does your cd burner app check the result matches the original?

Romashka · 2006-12-19 12:25:31

dtw wrote:

I think Archie is now defunct.

Any plans to reanimate it?
I mean, can we release Archie without z4ggy?

arooaroo · 2006-12-19 15:16:42

dtw wrote:

I think Archie is now defunct.

I don't know any better, but what I do know is that I often have huge gaps between releases of things because of so many other commitments. So perhaps Archie is merely sleeping

dtw · 2006-12-19 19:31:20

Archie was asleep for a very long time. I ressurected it, bought it up to release status, then ziggy came back into the picture and sat on the release until a new beyond kernel was released. I have no knowledge of why.

I understand that ziggy has made some code changes which he has not commited to CVS. I plan to fork the current code when I have time.

Romashka · 2006-12-19 20:39:37

dtw wrote:

Archie was asleep for a very long time. I ressurected it, bought it up to release status, then ziggy came back into the picture and sat on the release until a new beyond kernel was released. I have no knowledge of why.

Yeah, I dunno too. :? And beyond is here already.
It's sad that development stopped.

dtw wrote:

I understand that ziggy has made some code changes which he has not commited to CVS. I plan to fork the current code when I have time.

Hmm, what name it will have then?
I like "Archie" (though something like Arch Linux Live CD will be fine too).

BTW, thank you for your work on Archie.

firewalker · 2006-12-21 12:52:30

Cotton wrote:

I've used it successfully on two different desktop machines and one laptop. Have not seen this bug.
md5sum reports: 18f6e69fde0fc33691a6e02842ff608d archie-0.6rc5-xfce.iso
Did you get the iso via torrent or ftp? Seems like http://archie.dotsrc.org/ is struggling to respond at times.
Is it an acpi issue? Does your cd burner app check the result matches the original?

My md5 hash: 437c190f5368b45343ce4251c9162cf6

Can you upload the files vmlinuz and initram.gz located to ISOLINUX folder of the cd? I 'm very curius bacause mine boots fine on virtuals machines.

Cotton · 2006-12-26 11:58:42

Just tried it on another machine and its failing at the same point as you describe.

Are there any boot switches that can be used to disable the ide scan?

dtw · 2006-12-26 12:07:20

Got an email from Ziggy. He is well it seems but technical problems his end have prevented any release. Hopefully I might again be able to help out with that again.

firewalker · 2006-12-26 17:46:33

dtw wrote:

Got an email from Ziggy. He is well it seems but technical problems his end have prevented any release. Hopefully I might again be able to help out with that again.

Let's hope for a new release.

Mikos · 2006-12-27 12:12:36

I don't understand this splitted effort. Archie development is really slow for a very very long time (well, in my strict criterion it is dead). But there is excelent larch - a live CD construction kit for Arch Linux. Larch is actively developed and works like a charm.

Why not join efforts with Larch developer, throw away current Archie scripts and make Archie based on Larch scripts? Development will be much faster this way...

Mr Green · 2006-12-27 13:00:45

suggested that a while back but was told Archie and larch are very different projects :?

Maybe a new release if possible should come after 0.8 is released ....

Romashka · 2006-12-27 14:24:01

IIRC phrakture was working on some unified mkinitcpio-based base for LiveCDs, that could be used by Install CD, Archie and larch.
Dunno about its current status...

iphitus · 2006-12-27 21:59:52

Mikos wrote:

I don't understand this splitted effort. Archie development is really slow for a very very long time (well, in my strict criterion it is dead)....

No releases doesnt mean dead. z4ziggy has been working on it.

Why not join efforts with Larch developer, throw away current Archie scripts

You honestly expect the Archie developers to want to completely ditch everything they've done just to base it on some other scripts?

and make Archie based on Larch scripts? Development will be much faster this way...

....which from what i've seen, are horribly hacky.

IMHO, the unified and simpler base for liveCDs that phrakture and tpowa have worked on is a better approach.

James

dtw · 2006-12-28 10:40:13

iphitus wrote:

IMHO, the unified and simpler base for liveCDs that phrakture and tpowa have worked on is a better approach.

Admittedly I dropped out of development of this stuff so I am hardly in the loop but I have seen and heard very little about this.

We're extremely unlikely to see any hard core documentation for it, which will make it hard to adapt without going through the code with a fine tooth comb and figuring out how it works. I have the greatest respect for the abilities of phrak and tpowa but they _are_ busy and in all honesty don't have the time to develop such a tool to a useful level. Sure, they can code it so it works, but that's only really half the battle.

_alexmyself · 2006-12-28 14:45:31

larch will slow... : http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … ight=larch
choice is hard, chooze your zombie

thanks for those two projects, hope they'll survive

Cotton · 2006-12-28 23:42:28

@firewalker: Although my machine stops at "Scanning ide partitions [BUSY] " whilst booting Archie 0.6rc5 from the CD, it boots the same version of Archie without problem from a USB stick.

Bizarre.

firewalker · 2007-05-14 21:28:53

From Archie's site:
http://archie.dotsrc.org/?q=node/25

I saw it today. I 'm looking forward for the new release. I hope that it won't be a back step the decision of Iphitus to stop the development of beyond kernel patch set.

Live and kicking...
Submitted by z4ziggy on Thu, 2007-04-19 16:30.

Well, its been a LONG time... But we can't say its been boring.

Although 0.6 release was LONG due, we have continued working on it, crafting it, and basically, adding and fixing tons (and i mean TONS of stuff). The changelog will reveal much more information once we release, but changes include usb-boot fix, grub splash boot, readahead (yey!), gui installer (yey again!), squashfs-lzma (did i hear yey?) and much, much more.
We are currently waiting for the next kernel 2.6.21 release, which iphitus will make a new 'beyond' patch for it and all the modules. only then we can release 0.6. In the meantime, im working on adding beryl support to the xfce iso - it might work on the kde iso as well (or any other user's iso, as long as mkliveiso is in charge...) - still need to make it automatic...

The squashfs-lzma proves to be an outstanding addition, in both terms of size (isos are ~20% smaller) and speed (everything works a tad faster). Im guessing the new use of aufs also contributes to the speed factor. We had to build our own squashfs-lzma patch and not use the ones from squashfs-lzma.org since those cant be built into the kernel tree and we wanted the squashfs-lzma to be integrated into the kernel package.

Also, for those who kept an eye on the project, you might know the 'modules' addon which dtw introduced (each iso type is a 'module' thus allowing you to create an iso using our own 'modules' or your own home-made 'module'). I have completed another mini-xfce iso module which creates a 255mb iso for using a 256mb pendrives (at least they will be useful something now...) - the iso consists of a complete xfce WM plus some list of selected software: gparted, firefox, abiword, graveman, exaile, to name a few. I hope it will prove useful for some.

All in all, as you can see - we're not dead yet, but live and kicking. Some screenshots will be posted soon or maybe along the release itself, depends on the release date ofcourse...

That is all for now. Hope we'll have a successful release in this life time :-)

Last edited by firewalker (2007-05-14 21:29:44)

dtw · 2007-05-15 07:50:47

Ziggy's getting it there. Kernel problems are a constant issue.

firewalker · 2007-05-15 11:55:13

dtw wrote:

Ziggy's getting it there. Kernel problems are a constant issue.

I there going to be a release soon? To Arches site?

aRcHaTe · 2007-05-15 23:11:16

archie for what?

dtw · 2007-05-16 10:53:02

Firewalker, when we get the kernel sorted yes. We were using beyond but it died.

We're also splitting the way the project works. On one hand we will have the archiegen scripts, which can be used to build a custom live-cd or one based on an existing "module", and on the other we will have the Archie live-cds themselves, which will be built based on some of the most popular modules and distributed as ISOs.

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