[SOLVED]Can't add files larger than 4GB in K3b

warnec · 2009-09-19 19:58:40

Hi. I wanted to burn a file over 4 GB on a DVD5 today in K3b. No luck. When adding a file which is greater than 4.0GB, I am being told I should use mkisofs >=2.01.01a33 / genisoimage >=1.1.4.

K3b says my mkisofs is 2.1, and my genisoimage is 1.1.9. (checked via genisoimage --version)

I am sure it is going to fit on a DVD5, I split my file in WinRAR so that it would fit DVD5 size perfectly. I did some googling, tried changing parameters, and still no luck. I can workaround this by doing

genisoimage -allow-limited-size filename > isoname.iso

But obviously that's not what I want. Any ideas?

PS.: k3b 1.66.0alpha2-3, cdrkit 1.1.9-2

PPS.: Looks like nobody cares:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/398626

Bug #398626 reported by martinpm24 on 2009-07-13

Last edited by warnec (2009-09-21 16:33:50)

deej · 2009-09-19 21:11:07

I gave up on K3b a long time ago; I use Brasero now. No-frills and it works every time.

Deej

warnec · 2009-09-20 08:10:35

But Brasero is GTK, right? I would prefer a KDE4 app, if there is one.

ugkbunb · 2009-09-20 09:10:39

warnec wrote:

But Brasero is GTK, right? I would prefer a KDE4 app, if there is one.

Yes it is... but there is a brasero-lite in the AUR that doesn't depend on the gnome dependencies.

R00KIE · 2009-09-20 14:41:56

Big files and ISO only filesystems do not go hand in hand very well I believe. I have never looked into the rainbow books very closely to know exactly why but while using nero (I have never had any compatibility problem when using nero so I regard it as being good in that respect) it would always complain while adding files larger than 2GB to ISO only discs, to add files larger than 2GB I would need to use an UDF only filesystem, maybe that's your problem.

ugkbunb · 2009-09-20 17:44:03

^^

Seems like that is indeed the case... from brasero when I attempted to add a large file to a data project

The size of the file is over 2 GiB. Files larger than 2 GiB are not supported by ISO9660 standard in its first and second versions (the most widespread ones).
It is recommended to use the third version of ISO9660 standard which is supported by most of the operating systems including Linux and all versions of Windows ©.
However MacOS X cannot read images created with version 3 of ISO9660 standard

Alejandro Nova · 2009-09-21 03:26:38

The answer to this is only one.

CDRecord.

From upstream, with love:
"What are the problems when running programs from the broken fork (cdrkit)?
The original mkisofs added support for multi-extent files that may be > 4 GB (up to 8 TB) while the fork does not support single files to be bigger than 4 GB."

Archlinux must switch from cdrkit to cdrecord, and those issues are gone.

Last edited by Alejandro Nova (2009-09-21 03:27:51)

skottish · 2009-09-21 03:41:12

Alejandro Nova wrote:

Archlinux must switch from cdrkit to cdrecord, and those issues are gone.

crdtools is in AUR if you want to use it.

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We will not have the discussion on cdrtools vs. cdrkit again. It's a very volatile subject that has been covered here a couple of times. I recommend searching the forums for cdrtools to find out why I'm saying this. Just look for the closed threads.

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Alejandro Nova · 2009-09-21 03:56:54

OK, I'm revisiting this only to say that the actual fix to the problem described is to use CDRecord. I've been out of this forum for so long time and I didn't know that it has been already discussed. But it's great to see that you actually removed the requirement to use cdrkit from all important burning packages.

Now I can use cdrtools (that's the name ) freely, from AUR. It would be great to see a community package, but nothing more than that, that would be OK.

skottish · 2009-09-21 04:37:00

Alejandro Nova wrote:

I've been out of this forum for so long time and I didn't know that it has been already discussed.

If you weren't searching for the discussions, you may not have found them anyway. I'm just trying to prevent the inevitable collapse if the "conversation" is allowed. It's too political to stay sane.

Anyway, I use cdrtools myself. I've burnt a lot of coasters with cdrkit and haven't had my first one yet with cdrtools that wasn't my fault.

ugkbunb · 2009-09-21 04:47:38

^^
lol that thread is quite heated.. googling about leads to even more heated discussions -- never had a problem with cdrkit but going to give cdrtools a whirl

Last edited by ugkbunb (2009-09-21 04:47:54)

warnec · 2009-09-21 14:52:52

So, if I understand that correctly, cdrkit doesn't support >4GB files, and cdrtools does?

How do I switch to cdrtools, then? I suppose cdrkit and cdrtools are conflicting with each other.

And I can't remove cdrkit because dvd+rw-tools depends on it. Will dvd+rw-tools works with cdrtools as well?

There is also something called "dvdrtools" in /extra, described as:
"A fork of cdrtools, with the primary goal of supporting writable DVD drives"

Of course, I've got a DVD drive, so if it would support my drive better than cdrtools, I'll give it a shot. But will it support >4GB files as cdrtools does?

ugkbunb · 2009-09-21 16:07:50

warnec wrote:

So, if I understand that correctly, cdrkit doesn't support >4GB files, and cdrtools does?
How do I switch to cdrtools, then? I suppose cdrkit and cdrtools are conflicting with each other.
And I can't remove cdrkit because dvd+rw-tools depends on it. Will dvd+rw-tools works with cdrtools as well?
There is also something called "dvdrtools" in /extra, described as:
"A fork of cdrtools, with the primary goal of supporting writable DVD drives"
Of course, I've got a DVD drive, so if it would support my drive better than cdrtools, I'll give it a shot. But will it support >4GB files as cdrtools does?

sudo pacman -Rd cdrkit
yaourt -S cdrtools

I am 99% sure dvd+rw-tools should work with cdrtools... I would try out cdrtools first... then if it doesn't work for you perhaps then try out dvdrtools... it is IIRC just a fork of cdrtools... cdrtools is able to burn DVD just fine here.

warnec · 2009-09-21 16:33:35

Ha! Works now! Big thanks! Why isn't cdrtools included in Arch by default? I reckon it's because of the license?

ugkbunb · 2009-09-21 16:49:04

warnec wrote:

Ha! Works now! Big thanks! Why isn't cdrtools included in Arch by default? I reckon it's because of the license?

lol search teh forums for topics with title cdrtools and read the now closed thread on it

thetrivialstuff · 2009-09-29 22:23:44

cdrtools vs. cdrkit controversy... I must have missed all of that. But it does potentially explain why long ago my DVD burner worked great under Arch and now refuses to burn faster than 3x and is very sensitive to I/O activity -- is that cdrkit's fault? I'll let you know when I get home and try cdrtools.

So if I understand this correctly: The reason k3b has stopped burning large files is that the KDE developers took the cdrtools side of the giant flamewar/debate?

thetrivialstuff · 2009-10-03 04:44:34

Hmm... so I don't get complaints about the media only supporting 3x anymore, so it looks like cdrkit was causing that. Still missing some burn speeds, but on my system there's plenty of other explanations for that (Using a really old base system with the latest k3b.)

So yeah... if you've got burn problems, try cdrtools.

ungoliant · 2009-10-29 13:34:02

ugkbunb wrote:

warnec wrote:
So, if I understand that correctly, cdrkit doesn't support >4GB files, and cdrtools does?
How do I switch to cdrtools, then? I suppose cdrkit and cdrtools are conflicting with each other.
And I can't remove cdrkit because dvd+rw-tools depends on it. Will dvd+rw-tools works with cdrtools as well?
There is also something called "dvdrtools" in /extra, described as:
"A fork of cdrtools, with the primary goal of supporting writable DVD drives"
Of course, I've got a DVD drive, so if it would support my drive better than cdrtools, I'll give it a shot. But will it support >4GB files as cdrtools does?
sudo pacman -Rd cdrkit
yaourt -S cdrtools
I am 99% sure dvd+rw-tools should work with cdrtools... I would try out cdrtools first... then if it doesn't work for you perhaps then try out dvdrtools... it is IIRC just a fork of cdrtools... cdrtools is able to burn DVD just fine here.

Followed the steps here, didnt work.
When I yaourt -S cdrtools, it just installs cdrkit-1.1.9-2 , and k3b is still unable to burn >4Gb dvds. These are the kind of things that kill the user experience in our OS.

Its real sad, im using a windows app through wine to burn dvd's.

fsckd · 2009-10-29 14:59:35

ungoliant wrote:

Followed the steps here, didnt work.
When I yaourt -S cdrtools, it just installs cdrkit-1.1.9-2 , and k3b is still unable to burn >4Gb dvds. These are the kind of things that kill the user experience in our OS.
Its real sad, im using a windows app through wine to burn dvd's.

Then try yaourt -S --aur cdrtools.

michalm · 2009-10-30 19:00:10

@ungoliant: what version of K3b do you use? On 1.68 alpha3 this problem should be fixed. Previous version incorrectly read version number of genisoimage (see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206737).

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