Xorg crashes when firefox used.

Szelek · 2010-04-18 09:56:04

Every time I open in firefox a youtube video on facebook whole Xorg restarts and kicks me back to GDM. The same thing happens when I type something in the firefox's search box. Anyone is having the same problem, or knows the solution?

n0dix · 2010-04-18 14:15:53

Is there something in Xorg log?
Do you try with another browser?

MacPlaceq · 2010-04-19 18:31:25

Same here. This happened on KDE before and now on XFCE. Konqueror seemed not to be affected, though.

Here's something strange for me from Xorg.0.log. This gives me no clue.

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x809f81b]
1: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x54745) [0x809c745]
2: (vdso) (__kernel_rt_sigreturn+0x0) [0xb781240c]
3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so (0xb71b1000+0xb15f9) [0xb72625f9]
4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0xb719b000+0x91d0) [0xb71a41d0]
5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0xb719b000+0xdd99) [0xb71a8d99]
6: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0xc44e6) [0x810c4e6]
7: /usr/bin/X (CompositePicture+0x298) [0x8104808]
8: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0xb7a3d) [0x80ffa3d]
9: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0xb4723) [0x80fc723]
10: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x40437) [0x8088437]
11: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a705) [0x8062705]
12: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0xb7408b86]
13: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a2f1) [0x80622f1]
Segmentation fault at address (nil)

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting

And of course - hardware. It's Radeon Mobility 7500 32 MB on Thinkpad T42.

Last edited by MacPlaceq (2010-04-19 20:33:53)

Szelek · 2010-04-20 10:33:11

MacPlaceq wrote:

Same here. This happened on KDE before and now on XFCE. Konqueror seemed not to be affected, though.

Here's something strange for me from Xorg.0.log. This gives me no clue.

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x809f81b]
1: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x54745) [0x809c745]
2: (vdso) (__kernel_rt_sigreturn+0x0) [0xb781240c]
3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so (0xb71b1000+0xb15f9) [0xb72625f9]
4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0xb719b000+0x91d0) [0xb71a41d0]
5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0xb719b000+0xdd99) [0xb71a8d99]
6: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0xc44e6) [0x810c4e6]
7: /usr/bin/X (CompositePicture+0x298) [0x8104808]
8: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0xb7a3d) [0x80ffa3d]
9: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0xb4723) [0x80fc723]
10: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x40437) [0x8088437]
11: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a705) [0x8062705]
12: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0xb7408b86]
13: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a2f1) [0x80622f1]
Segmentation fault at address (nil)

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting

And of course - hardware. It's Radeon Mobility 7500 32 MB on Thinkpad T42.

I could't see logs from Xorg, I was away from home for few days.
I also have Radeon Mobility 7500 32 MB on Thinkpad T40.
I've tried to replicate the problem on other browsers (Chromium, Epiphany) but nothing like that happened when using them.

jarda-wien · 2010-04-21 05:49:47

I am reporting exactly the same behavior. Opera is affected as well, I temporarily switched to chromium. It happens mostly when I write something in the search bar in firefox.
Same hardware here as well: thinkpad t41 mobility radeon 7500.

I may try to disable kms, compile xf86-video-ati-git or do some xorg magic. I have do not have time for this until the end of this week though.

I am not sure which update caused this, but I suspect kernel 2.6.33. It was the first to enable kms by default...

edit:
btw It is definitely not DE dependent, as I currently use plain i3.

From xorg log, there seems to be an error in libexa, so disabling EXA acceleration may help as well (xorg magic...)

Last edited by jarda-wien (2010-04-21 05:51:40)

sshadow · 2010-04-24 14:27:43

Hello,
I have exactly the same problem: T41 mobility radeon 7500. Haven't found a solution, yet.

sshadow

jarda-wien · 2010-04-26 16:47:06

ok so I may have a solution... As I said, disabling kms might work, and It actually does, BUT firefox and thunderbird are unusable after disabling kms, because you see just some garbage that only resembles to those program interfaces.

I know that it solves the issue, because I had a tab in opera, which caused this very crash upon every execution of the browser. After disabling kms, opera starts as expected, but then again no firefox and thunderbird...

btw building xf86-video-ati-git had no effect on this issue.

I need you guys to try and disable kms (see ati page on the wiki) and then report back here. This might be some special bug that has something to do with the 7500 radeon series, or possibly something with thinkpads in general.:/

cookiecaper · 2010-04-26 18:09:33

Someone should report this to the appropriate upstream vendors.

poliocertes · 2010-04-27 07:31:06

I can confirm this. Using dell D 600 with radeon 9000 and have same story. I will try to solve this by disable kms.

legiv · 2010-04-27 14:39:53

I can confirm as well on a T41 Radeon mobility 7500 and a desktop with a Radeon Radeon RV100 QY [7000/VE] - Slacker radio crashes X every time.

ugeuder · 2010-05-06 09:52:15

I'm not an Arch Linux user, but just for your information, I experience the same crash on Kubuntu Lucid.

My machine is a Thinkpad T40 with a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] rev 2

My Ubuntu bug report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/575140

We should really get this to upstream, but my experience of working with Xorg is zero

jarda-wien · 2010-05-06 20:49:07

ok so this is not arch specific, which is good.
I tried to chat with some people on #radeon irc the other day, but nobody answered, maybe, if there are more bug fillings from different distros, they will react...

ancient_archer · 2010-05-09 20:26:43

Well, I thought I was the only one with the strange problems like that.

My X session restarts as well (and as someone wrote above) usually when typing something in Opera. In var/log/Xorg.0.log however, I couldn't find anything suspicious.

My hardware is Radeon 9600 Pro, drivers are open-source radeon (xf86-video-ati version 6.12.192-1) + Xorg server 1.7.6-3. KMS is disabled, but it happens in spite of that.

jarda-wien · 2010-05-09 20:55:04

ancient_archer wrote:

Well, I thought I was the only one with the strange problems like that.
My X session restarts as well (and as someone wrote above) usually when typing something in Opera. In var/log/Xorg.0.log however, I couldn't find anything suspicious.
My hardware is Radeon 9600 Pro, drivers are open-source radeon (xf86-video-ati version 6.12.192-1) + Xorg server 1.7.6-3. KMS is disabled, but it happens in spite of that.

Well, this might not be our case, as the 9600pro is very different from our 7500 and 9000 cards. And we get a strange Segmentation fault at address (nil) in xorg.log.
Plus as I have shown, disabling KMS fixes the issue. So get the same symptoms, but from a possibly other issue.

Stay focused, maybe there are even more people having such problems...

sshadow · 2010-05-09 21:25:15

Well,
using Chromium fixed it for me. Strange that it doesn't appear on chromium, but just on firefox,opera etc.

ancient_archer · 2010-05-09 22:36:22

Very strange. Problems seems the same, but source of it is different... Perhaps a particular key combination restarts the X? I doubt that since the only one used for that is Ctrl+alt+backspace.

Perhaps it's the issue with xf86-ati driver or a kernel issue...

MacPlaceq · 2010-05-10 15:04:47

Switched to GNOME, crash are less likely to happen, however the firefox has crashed X three times since then.

It may not be the best solution, but I started using Vimperator in FF

Last edited by MacPlaceq (2010-05-10 15:05:10)

jarda-wien · 2010-05-16 11:40:42

hello there, as you might have noticed, we had two minor kernel upgrades since we observed the issue. As for my part, I have to say, that I have not had any x crashes lately.

So what about the others? If this is fixes, I might as well mark this thread as solved.

ancient_archer · 2010-05-17 10:02:45

It happened to me again today when typing into Gmail in Opera even though I made a complete update yesterday evening... I don't know even where to start to search for an error but it seems to me that all this happened when I upgraded to kernel 2.6.33 and/or updated open-source radeon driver as well

redkiwi · 2010-05-17 21:50:32

xorg-server runs with xf86-video-vesa stable.
I think the problem is the xf86-video-ati driver.
In my opinion, the xf86-video-ati driver has too many bugs.

I had horrible freezes with my Radeon HD 4350 in Ubuntu 10.04.

[RV730] GPU soft reset infinite loop scrolling in firefox with compiz
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid … bug/564181

:edit
i sold my old system with the 4350 card and bought a new one.
With my "new" board (Intel DH55TC) and cpu (Intel Core i5-661) everything runs stable again.
i know intel drivers are not perfekt, but at the moment less painfull and more stable.

Last edited by redkiwi (2010-05-17 21:59:51)

jarda-wien · 2010-05-18 21:20:18

I had another two crashes this evening, so the problem definitely is not fixed. I think it might have something to do with the introduction of the 2.6.33 kernel version and its KMS support. A solution might be to downgrade to 2.6.32 (I haven't tried this myself).

As to the bugs that are in xf86-video-ati I have to say, that this is actually the first one I've encoutered since the two years-or-so that I use arch on my laptop. The bug seems to appear in this form only on the R100/R200 chip and its variants (e.g. radeon 7500, 9200 and so on). Those are chips that are about 9 years old and the driver code is considered stable for a long time now. It is perfectly understandable, that the support for newer cards (like the recent HD4xxx series...) is not perfect yet. Blame ATI (or is it AMD now?).

ancient_archer · 2010-05-21 11:06:06

It crashed again and I think that Opera wasn't running. Only Chromium!
I guess it's either a kernel problem, or video driver or Xorg problem or a combination. I'll try to downgrade the kernel to 2.6.27-lts first and then see what happens.

Last edited by ancient_archer (2010-05-21 12:29:15)

Lothium · 2010-05-22 10:43:16

Same here on my machine with chromium. I have an ATI X700 with active testing repo and the zen kernel.

ancient_archer · 2010-05-23 16:26:51

Well, I installed kernel 26-lts and headers, modified GRUB, and I have been running this old kernel for 2 days and no X restarts...

So I don't know if it helps all, but install the kernel26-lts + headers and use it. It should solve the problem for the time being, thought it's a temporary solution.

Please report if this works.

Thank you

trunomad · 2010-05-23 19:36:59

Hi, I had the sam problem on my Dell D600 and Radeon Mobility FireGL 9000. I've used solution written by ancient_archer and it looks that problem is solved. I hope this bug will be repaired and we can use newer kernel.

Thank's for help.

Arch Linux

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