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Hi,
Just checked the SMART status of my 4 HDDs:
fackamato@ion:~$ for a in a b c d; do sudo smartctl -Hc /dev/sd$a; done
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (4620) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 77) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (9540) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 159) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (9360) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 156) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (19440) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 255) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 34) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
fackamato@ion:~$ for a in a b c d; do sudo smartctl -A /dev/sd$a; done
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0026 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0023 082 082 025 Pre-fail Always - 5629
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 377
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 252 252 051 Old_age Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0024 252 252 015 Old_age Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3998
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 051 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 49
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 064 055 000 Old_age Always - 34 (Lifetime Min/Max 11/45)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 252 252 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0036 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
223 Load_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
225 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 388
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0026 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0023 072 071 025 Pre-fail Always - 8708
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1187
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 252 252 051 Old_age Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0024 252 252 015 Old_age Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3677
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 051 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 41
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 064 054 000 Old_age Always - 35 (Lifetime Min/Max 12/46)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 252 252 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0036 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
223 Load_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
225 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1195
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0026 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0023 072 072 025 Pre-fail Always - 8568
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 158
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 252 252 051 Old_age Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0024 252 252 015 Old_age Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2458
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 051 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 20
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 064 060 000 Old_age Always - 34 (Lifetime Min/Max 16/40)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 252 252 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0036 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
223 Load_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0
225 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 159
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 072 072 011 Pre-fail Always - 9340
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 13
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 253 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0025 100 100 015 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1744
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0033 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 13
13 Read_Soft_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0033 100 100 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 067 064 000 Old_age Always - 33 (Lifetime Min/Max 11/36)
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 066 064 000 Old_age Always - 34 (Lifetime Min/Max 11/38)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2786548382
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
Should I be worried?
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ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 064 055 000 Old_age Always - 34 (Lifetime Min/Max 11/45) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 064 054 000 Old_age Always - 35 (Lifetime Min/Max 12/46) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 064 060 000 Old_age Always - 34 (Lifetime Min/Max 16/40) 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 067 064 000 Old_age Always - 33 (Lifetime Min/Max 11/36) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 066 064 000 Old_age Always - 34 (Lifetime Min/Max 11/38)
I am not sure about interpreting s.m.a.r.t. values but the temperatures (over 60°C!) are very high.
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Actually, these are the temperatures:
fackamato@ion:~$ for a in a b c d; do sudo hddtemp /dev/sd$a; done
/dev/sda: SAMSUNG HD502HJ: 35°C
/dev/sdb: SAMSUNG HD103SJ: 36°C
/dev/sdc: SAMSUNG HD103SJ: 35°C
/dev/sdd: SAMSUNG HD154UI: 36°C
What I'm worried about is all the Pre-fail and Old_age.. these harddrives are not even 1 year old!
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What I'm worried about is all the Pre-fail and Old_age.. these harddrives are not even 1 year old!
Those are the type of the value, not indicators. Install hdsentinel from AUR, it will guess the health status of your drives.
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Ah, nice one. Here's some data:
fackamato@ion:~/aur/hdsentinel$ sudo hdsentinel
Hard Disk Sentinel for LINUX console 0.03 (c) 2008-2009 info@hdsentinel.com
Start with -r [reportfile] to save data to report, -h for help
Examining hard disk configuration ...
HDD Device 0: /dev/sda
HDD Model ID : SAMSUNG HD502HJ
HDD Serial No: S20BJ90S816578
HDD Revision : 1AJ100E4
HDD Size : 476940 MB
Interface : S-ATA II
Temperature : 35 °C
Health : 100 %
Performance : 100 %
Power on time: 166 days, 17 hours
Est. lifetime: more than 1000 days
HDD Device 1: /dev/sdb
HDD Model ID : SAMSUNG HD103SJ
HDD Serial No: S246JDWSA13244
HDD Revision : 1AJ100E4
HDD Size : 953870 MB
Interface : S-ATA II
Temperature : 36 °C
Health : 100 %
Performance : 100 %
Power on time: 153 days, 7 hours
Est. lifetime: more than 1000 days
HDD Device 2: /dev/sdc
HDD Model ID : SAMSUNG HD103SJ
HDD Serial No: S246JDWSA13250
HDD Revision : 1AJ100E4
HDD Size : 953870 MB
Interface : S-ATA II
Temperature : 35 °C
Health : 100 %
Performance : 100 %
Power on time: 102 days, 12 hours
Est. lifetime: more than 1000 days
HDD Device 3: /dev/sdd
HDD Model ID : SAMSUNG HD154UI
HDD Serial No: S1XWJ1KZ119290
HDD Revision : 1AG01118
HDD Size : 1548170 MB
Interface : S-ATA II
Temperature : 36 °C
Health : 100 %
Performance : 100 %
Power on time: 72 days, 19 hours
Est. lifetime: more than 1000 days
Looks a lot better thanks for the tip!
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Aarggh! I don't like the look of this:
HDD Device 1: /dev/sdb
HDD Model ID : SAMSUNG HD753LJ
HDD Serial No: S13UJ1KS306111
HDD Revision : 1AA01113
HDD Size : 774090 MB
Interface : S-ATA II
Temperature : 43 °C
Health : 58 %
Performance : 100 %
Power on time: 223 days, 22 hours
Est. lifetime: 538 days
Relatively new 750gb drive and all!
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What does hdsentinel say?
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Sorry to hijack this thread but when I try hdsentinel it just give me nosuch file or directory. I tried both aur and the gzip.
Mind if I ask how you proceeded ?
Last edited by lymphatik (2010-05-25 10:35:53)
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Aarggh! I don't like the look of this:
HDD Device 1: /dev/sdb HDD Model ID : SAMSUNG HD753LJ HDD Serial No: S13UJ1KS306111 HDD Revision : 1AA01113 HDD Size : 774090 MB Interface : S-ATA II Temperature : 43 °C Health : 58 % Performance : 100 % Power on time: 223 days, 22 hours Est. lifetime: 538 days
Relatively new 750gb drive and all!
I wouldn't worry, the program may just look at the raw values and compute how close they are to the thresholds but it doesn't know how close they were to the thresholds when the drive was brand new.
Also the smart values are to be interpreted by the manufacturer, I'm not completely sure but I think I've seen somewhere that the meaning and how fast the values change differ from manufacturer to manufacturer. However if some value is bellow the threshold then that's bad news.
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@ fackamato:
That was hdsentinel.
@ rookie
Thanks. I'll report back in 538, ah, 537 days Hang on, just run hdsentinel again and it remains at 538 days although the power on time has increased appropriately.
I'll file that one as a dud and do a pacman -Rs hdsentinel. Still, interesting...
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I'll file that one as a dud and do a pacman -Rs hdsentinel. Still, interesting...
It is nothing more than a guess. If it says your drive has health problems you should check the values yourself, it could indicate something is wrong. Don't think it will count down the days exactly till the death of your drive, that is just not possible.
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Cheers ijanos,
like your signature I installed smartmontools just for the fun of it and my sdb threw up all over the place as well. I am now considering looking further into this issue, especially as my laptop drive has only a 37% health status! Question is, how do I check the values myself? The wiki has shown me the way to SMART but doesn't take it from there...
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Cheers ijanos,
like your signature I installed smartmontools just for the fun of it and my sdb threw up all over the place as well. I am now considering looking further into this issue, especially as my laptop drive has only a 37% health status! Question is, how do I check the values myself? The wiki has shown me the way to SMART but doesn't take it from there...
Well smarmontools will show you the whole report, one was posted in this thread before and hdsentinel also can list all values in a report.txt if you add the -r command line flag.
Look out for these particular values:
Reallocated sector count - should be 0. It means the drive found bad sectors, and disabled it. If it is low and not increasing over the time, that could mean your driver fallen/have been hit which caused one time damage. If this value if increasing then the drive is failing and the data is not safe in it!
Current pending sector count - candidates for reallocation, should be 0. Panic is its increasing.
Spin retry count - should be 0. It count how many time the drive failed to spin up. This predicts motoric failure.
Load/Unload cycle count - this is interesting for laptop disk, it counts how many time your disk turned off for power saving. When this reach 20 000 the disk is considered old, the 20-40 thousand is the average lifetime. There was an annoying bug a few years ago causing disk to turn on/off constantly.
note that hdsentinel will tell you the raw values in hexadecimal encoding.
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Sorry to hijack this thread but when I try hdsentinel it just give me nosuch file or directory. I tried both aur and the gzip.
Mind if I ask how you proceeded ?
Same here... Some dependency that is not found...
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lymphatik wrote:Sorry to hijack this thread but when I try hdsentinel it just give me nosuch file or directory. I tried both aur and the gzip.
Mind if I ask how you proceeded ?
Same here... Some dependency that is not found...
Oh hey guys, can you tell me the exact error message? I'm maintining the AUR package, so I could fix it once we figure out what is missing. (It is strange though, since i checked the executable with ldd and its only links to glibc, you have glibc installed, right?)
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Load/Unload cycle count - this is interesting for laptop disk, it counts how many time your disk turned off for power saving. When this reach 20 000 the disk is considered old, the 20-40 thousand is the average lifetime. There was an annoying bug a few years ago causing disk to turn on/off constantly.
Please tell me you got that number wrong..
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0022 032 032 000 Old_age Always - 136385
Laptop which is almost two years old. The value is not near the threshold though.
Last edited by Ramses de Norre (2010-05-26 11:57:43)
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Please tell me you got that number wrong..
Whooops. Sorry guys, i misremembered an order of magnitude.
"The typical lifetime rating for laptop (2.5-in) hard drives is 300,000 to 600,000 load cycles."
Consult with wikipedia for further info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T. … attributes
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Did a proper SMART test as per the wiki and my sdb passed fine.
Unfortunately my laptop drive appears to be not SMART capable. It is an IDE drive and I always end up with having to append -T permissive upon which it tells me that I don't have an ATA/ATAPI device.
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@toad
Check in the bios if you have smart enabled.
Notebook disks seem to have very aggressive power management defaults that will make them continuously park/unpark unless you either adjust the power management or increase the time between journal (?) commits to disk.
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Thanks, rookie!
Checked the BIOS but alas, no smart options on my T41. We are talking about reasonably old hardware (and in the case of BIOS software) here...
Haven't looked into it any deeper though, so any hidden features might be exactly that - hidden
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