Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

seth · 2025-09-29 07:52:00

08: Internal micro-controller halt (newer drivers)
62: GPU stopped processing

W/o context it's hard to tell why that might have happened.
But you're now also no longer running on the nvidia GPU anyway (but either on software or intel), no?

injiniero · 2025-09-29 08:45:46

seth wrote:

But you're now also no longer running on the nvidia GPU anyway (but either on software or intel), no?

I have two monitors connected to nvidia DVI ports. I have no monitor connected to intel GPU yet. I want to try connecting main monitor to iGPU and the second one to nvidia.

I don't quite understand what the information in glxinfo and eglinfo means.
On the one hand, glxinfo says it uses the Nvidia GPU for rendering.
On the other hand, eglinfo says it uses llvmpipe.
I understand that Wayland uses egl, but I don't know when glx is used.

If I try the separate monitor setup, will each GPU render only on the monitor connected to it?
Does this mean I'll only get hardware acceleration on the Intel monitor?

seth wrote:

W/o context it's hard to tell why that might have happened.

About the freezes, while in xorg many times after reboot and doing normal things: moving a window from one monitor to the other, playing a video, or just opening nautilus I got the xid 62 error and the process responsible was nvidia.
But this is not what worries me.

catting · 2025-09-29 16:10:09

I think I have the same issue on my laptop with a 4080 mobile GPU. GNOME apps work fine, since they can just run with the integrated Intel GPU, but I have issues around certain apps that are more sensitive to this issue like OBS (doesn't open) or Firefox (WebGL force-disabled.)

For reference, here is my eglinfo -B

GBM platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Wayland platform:
MESA: warning: Support for this platform is experimental with Xe KMD, bug reports may be ignored.
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: Mesa Project
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL OpenGL_ES 
OpenGL core profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL core profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60
OpenGL ES profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL ES profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

X11 platform:
MESA: warning: Support for this platform is experimental with Xe KMD, bug reports may be ignored.
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: Mesa Project
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL OpenGL_ES 
OpenGL core profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL core profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60
OpenGL ES profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL ES profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Surfaceless platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Device platform:
Device #0:

Platform Device platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Device #1:

Platform Device platform:
libEGL warning: pci id for fd 25: 10de:27e0, driver (null)

pci id for fd 28: 10de:27e0, driver (null)
pci id for fd 29: 10de:27e0, driver (null)
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
libEGL warning: pci id for fd 25: 10de:27e0, driver (null)

pci id for fd 28: 10de:27e0, driver (null)
pci id for fd 29: 10de:27e0, driver (null)
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
libEGL warning: pci id for fd 25: 10de:27e0, driver (null)

eglinfo: eglInitialize failed

Device #2:

Platform Device platform:
MESA: warning: Support for this platform is experimental with Xe KMD, bug reports may be ignored.
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: Mesa Project
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL OpenGL_ES 
OpenGL core profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL core profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60
OpenGL ES profile vendor: Intel
OpenGL ES profile renderer: Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (RPL-S)
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Device #3:

Platform Device platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: Mesa Project
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL OpenGL_ES 
OpenGL core profile vendor: Mesa
OpenGL core profile renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 20.1.8, 256 bits)
OpenGL core profile version: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.50
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: Mesa
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 20.1.8, 256 bits)
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.5 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.50
OpenGL ES profile vendor: Mesa
OpenGL ES profile renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 20.1.8, 256 bits)
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 Mesa 25.2.3-arch1.2
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Forcing eglinfo to use my NVIDIA card with __EGL_VENDOR_LIBRARY_FILENAMES=/usr/share/glvnd/egl_vendor.d/10_nvidia.json eglinfo -B:

GBM platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Wayland platform:
eglinfo: eglInitialize failed

X11 platform:
eglinfo: eglInitialize failed

Surfaceless platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.82.09
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

glxinfo shows only the working Intel GPU.

seth · 2025-09-29 19:33:45

The OP is struggling w/ a GBM incapable nvidia driver - that's not your problem at all.

glxinfo shows only the working Intel GPU.

prime-run glxinfo # nvidia-prime package

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PRIME

@injiniero

On the one hand, glxinfo says it uses the Nvidia GPU for rendering.
On the other hand, eglinfo says it uses llvmpipe.

Because you told libglvnd to use that w/ "__GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia"

I understand that Wayland uses egl, but I don't know when glx is used.

GLX clients, nothing wayland but maybe some xwayland GL clients. For some the implementation is configurable (egl, glx, vulkan)

If I try the separate monitor setup, will each GPU render only on the monitor connected to it?
Does this mean I'll only get hardware acceleration on the Intel monitor?

The renderer is independent from the crtc provider, you'll be running what's called https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PRIME#Reverse_PRIME (ideally you should™ not have to configure anything for that)
Everything will be rendered (accelerated) on the intel chip and then the relevant framebuffer is copied to the nvidia one for display.
There're downsides w/ this approach because you'll have to keep the second GPU powered and vblank synchronization can be an issue.
So if you can, you'd rather want the outputs connected to the intel chip.

the process responsible was nvidia

No, that's the kernel module

catting · 2025-09-29 20:10:16

Ah, alright. I've been reading a lot of the forums recently after all the GNOME 49 issues and this happened to catch my eye as I've had a similar issue for months and nothing I've tried has fixed it.

seth · 2025-09-29 20:15:33

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Open_B … re#Wayland - do you have qt6-wayland?
And what happens if you https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefo … able_WebGL ?

Either way, this is OT here - please open a new thread for this.

injiniero · 2025-09-30 15:47:35

seth wrote:

So if you can, you'd rather want the outputs connected to the intel chip.

I'll try that and post the results here.

injiniero · 2025-10-04 09:44:26

I have connected the main monitor to the DP output of the iGPU and the screen goes blank. I have disconnected the second monitor from the nvidia dGPU and still no output in the main monitor.
I've checked the BIOS settings for the graphic card and the iGPU multimonitor is enabled. My motherboard is an Asus Z87-Deluxe
I think that despite of the BIOS settings the motherboard gives priority to the dGPU and closes the iGPU output for some reason I don't know.

I don't want to pull off the nvidia card from the motherboard just for testing the iGPU.

I'm happy now with my Wayland session and I have solved the blender problem launching it with

WAYLAND_DISPLAY="" blender

forcing it to use xorg into Wayland.

I haven't been able to fix the fps drop in Firefox, but it's not serious and I'll be able to live with it until I decide whether to change the graphics card or I am forced to do so.

injiniero · Yesterday 18:51:46

Only FYI, finally I bought a NVIDIA RTX 5060 Ti 16 Gb and this is another world.

glxinfo -B
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
    Dedicated video memory: 16311 MB
    Total available memory: 16311 MB
    Currently available dedicated video memory: 15385 MB
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL profile mask: (none)

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

eglinfo -B
GBM platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Wayland platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

X11 platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Surfaceless platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Device platform:
Device #0:

Platform Device platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: NVIDIA
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenGL
OpenGL core profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL core profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL ES profile renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 580.105.08
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Device #1:

Platform Device platform:
libEGL warning: pci id for fd 26: 10de:2d04, driver (null)

pci id for fd 30: 10de:2d04, driver (null)
pci id for fd 31: 10de:2d04, driver (null)
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
libEGL warning: pci id for fd 26: 10de:2d04, driver (null)

pci id for fd 30: 10de:2d04, driver (null)
pci id for fd 31: 10de:2d04, driver (null)
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
libEGL warning: pci id for fd 26: 10de:2d04, driver (null)

eglinfo: eglInitialize failed

Device #2:

Platform Device platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: Mesa Project
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL OpenGL_ES 
OpenGL core profile vendor: Mesa
OpenGL core profile renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 21.1.5, 256 bits)
OpenGL core profile version: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 25.2.7-arch1.1
OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.50
OpenGL compatibility profile vendor: Mesa
OpenGL compatibility profile renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 21.1.5, 256 bits)
OpenGL compatibility profile version: 4.5 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 25.2.7-arch1.1
OpenGL compatibility profile shading language version: 4.50
OpenGL ES profile vendor: Mesa
OpenGL ES profile renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 21.1.5, 256 bits)
OpenGL ES profile version: OpenGL ES 3.2 Mesa 25.2.7-arch1.1
OpenGL ES profile shading language version: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

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#26 2025-09-29 07:52:00

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

#27 2025-09-29 08:45:46

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

#28 2025-09-29 16:10:09

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

#29 2025-09-29 19:33:45

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

#30 2025-09-29 20:10:16

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

#31 2025-09-29 20:15:33

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

#32 2025-09-30 15:47:35

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

#33 2025-10-04 09:44:26

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

#34 Yesterday 18:51:46

Re: Wayland + GNome with nvidia-470xx drivers segfaults

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