The WMFS Thread (Window Manager From Scratch)

saschakb · 2011-04-18 16:11:59

Thanks to this thread, I was last thursday aware of wmfs - and I'm using it consequently since that day. I've setup it to my own wishes, just a last little thing is missing: the stack layout from wmii. Is there any chance, it might find it's way into wmfs?

Last edited by saschakb (2011-04-18 16:13:21)

sironitomas · 2011-04-18 16:45:02

saschakb wrote:

Thanks to this thread, I was last thursday aware of wmfs - and I'm using it consequently since that day. I've setup it to my own wishes, just a last little thing is missing: the stack layout from wmii. Is there any chance, it might find it's way into wmfs?

Same thing to me. The only super uncomfortable bug of this WM is when you are in the MAX layout mode and you open a new window. That window will be send to the bottom of the clients layer, making you have to switch clients to see the recently opened window.

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bacardi55 · 2011-04-19 10:02:24

saschakb wrote:

Thanks to this thread, I was last thursday aware of wmfs - and I'm using it consequently since that day. I've setup it to my own wishes, just a last little thing is missing: the stack layout from wmii. Is there any chance, it might find it's way into wmfs?

We are aware that this feature is wanted. I don't think that it will be done soon cause we are working already on a new layout. If i remember correctly, there is already a feature request about this stack layout.

sironitomas wrote:

Same thing to me. The only super uncomfortable bug of this WM is when you are in the MAX layout mode and you open a new window. That window will be send to the bottom of the clients layer, making you have to switch clients to see the recently opened window.

I'm aware of this bug and i'll try to fix it very soon.

sironitomas · 2011-04-19 18:09:58

bacardi55 wrote:

sironitomas wrote:
Same thing to me. The only super uncomfortable bug of this WM is when you are in the MAX layout mode and you open a new window. That window will be send to the bottom of the clients layer, making you have to switch clients to see the recently opened window.
I'm aware of this bug and i'll try to fix it very soon.

Thanks! I'm being a little bit reiterative because that's the layout I most use in my netbook. The reolution is too small if I want to have multiple clients with any other layout. I'd be happy to make a patch but i'm not very good programming.

Regards!

saschakb · 2011-04-19 22:18:25

@bacardi55 Well, for the sessions, where stacking is needed, I can switch, that's not the huge problem. For me, wmfs is 99% perfect! What more do I expect?

thayer · 2011-04-25 05:52:50

Can anyone clarify the purpose of, or difference between, the following options:

1. raisefocus
2. raiseswitch (I read this was deprecated in February, but it remains in the default wmfsrc)
3. client_tile_raise

Also, what is the purpose of focus_follow_movement? It would seem that focus would *have* to follow movement, assuming 'movement' is the selection of clients by use of a shortcut (Mod+J, Mod+k, etc.).

bacardi55 · 2011-04-26 07:24:24

thayer wrote:

Can anyone clarify the purpose of, or difference between, the following options:
1. raisefocus
2. raiseswitch (I read this was deprecated in February, but it remains in the default wmfsrc)
3. client_tile_raise
Also, what is the purpose of focus_follow_movement? It would seem that focus would *have* to follow movement, assuming 'movement' is the selection of clients by use of a shortcut (Mod+J, Mod+k, etc.).

raisefocus : true or false. Indicate if the window have to raise (go over the other) when it has the focus (when you have floating window)
raiseswitch : deprecated
client_tile_raise : true or false. Indicate if the tile client can raise over the floating window

focus_follow_movement: true or false. Indicate if the client under the mouse takes the focus

archangar · 2011-04-28 07:03:16

Thanks for this marvelous WM, i enjoy WMFS everyday!

xunil9025 · 2011-05-01 17:07:24

archangar wrote:

Thanks for this marvelous WM, i enjoy WMFS everyday!

I agree it's the best wm i've ever seen just amazing!
I tried some others (Awesome, Subtle) but they are crashing after updating.
Wmfs is a mix between openbox but with tiling and very light!

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thayer · 2011-05-01 19:43:45

bacardi55 wrote:

thayer wrote:
Can anyone clarify the purpose of, or difference between, the following options:
raisefocus : true or false. Indicate if the window have to raise (go over the other) when it has the focus (when you have floating window)
raiseswitch : deprecated
client_tile_raise : true or false. Indicate if the tile client can raise over the floating window
focus_follow_movement: true or false. Indicate if the client under the mouse takes the focus

Thanks, bacardi, that helped, but I am still unclear about focus_follow_movement. The description you provided sounds more like focus_follow_mouse. Can you or anyone else provide a bit more detail?

xunil9025 · 2011-05-02 13:56:48

Hello,
I've saw this script
http://wmfs.info/attachments/13/scandesktop.sh
I need to add this line to generate applications menu.
# @include "~/.config/wmfs/wmfsrc-appmenu-items"
But it wont't work has anyone got a way to make it work?

Something like this image?

Read the rules about image posting --Inxsible

Does anyone know a way to generate applications menu?

Thank u!

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anonymous_user · 2011-05-02 14:27:31

First you don't need to include the beginning "#" so its just "@include "~/.config/wmfs/wmfsrc-appmenu-items". Secondly, you need to run the "scandesktop.sh" at startup such as ~/.xinitrc (if you use it).

xunil9025 · 2011-05-02 15:48:02

I allready tried that but that didn't work.
When I add the line
"@include "~/.config/wmfs/wmfsrc-appmenu-items" to wmfsrc items menu and reload wmfs it falsback.

Last edited by xunil9025 (2011-05-02 15:49:21)

flamingmoe1979 · 2011-05-02 16:28:45

Hey first off all this is the best wm i used for linux so far ( i prefer floting wms). You did a great job.

Ive got a question concerning rules setting for libre office.

I use this rule but it doest work nicely.

[rule]
instance = "VCLSalFrame" # First part of WM_CLASS
class = "libreoffice-startcenter" # Seconf part of WM_CLASS, not needed if first part is correct
screen = 0 # Screen to use
tag = 5 # Tag number of apps
free = true # Set automatic free client
[/rule]

Maybe someone has a better solution?
Greetz

anonymous_user · 2011-05-02 16:35:47

@flamingmoe1979 - try without using "instance". Also are you sure the class is correct?

flamingmoe1979 · 2011-05-02 17:20:31

anonymous_user wrote:

@flamingmoe1979 - try without using "instance". Also are you sure the class is correct?

Im not definetly sure, i used xprop to check ou the wm class. I try your suggestion!

The problem is when i try to open a document with the mouse the tag changes immediatly. Thats a strange behaviour.

bacardi55 · 2011-05-02 18:47:58

flamingmoe1979 wrote:

anonymous_user wrote:
@flamingmoe1979 - try without using "instance". Also are you sure the class is correct?
Im not definetly sure, i used xprop to check ou the wm class. I try your suggestion!
The problem is when i try to open a document with the mouse the tag changes immediatly. Thats a strange behaviour.

Unfortunatly, this is a known issue… http://wmfs.info/issues/28

xunil9025 · 2011-05-03 08:23:32

xunil9025 wrote:

Hello,
I've saw this script
http://wmfs.info/attachments/13/scandesktop.sh
I need to add this line to generate applications menu.
# @include "~/.config/wmfs/wmfsrc-appmenu-items"
But it wont't work has anyone got a way to make it work?
Does anyone know a way to generate applications menu which reloads automatic?
Thank u!

Anyone?

thayer · 2011-05-06 17:52:27

xunil9025 wrote:

I allready tried that but that didn't work.
When I add the line
"@include "~/.config/wmfs/wmfsrc-appmenu-items" to wmfsrc items menu and reload wmfs it falsback.

You need to run the script before reloading WMFS; as per the instructions inside the script:

# Application list
# Add the following line to your .wmfsrc in the appmenu's [item] list
# @include "~/.config/wmfs/wmfsrc-appmenu-items"
# then launch this script or make the .xinitrc do it

The script itself generates ~/.config/wmfs/wmfsrc-appmenu-items so it must be run before you load WMFS, else the @include will be invalid.

cyrusza · 2011-05-18 11:58:28

Hi mates, i'm a new Arch user and thanks to all of your posts in this forum i achieved very good results in a little time.

My problem with wmfs (my tiling wm of choice) is that i need a lot of status indicator and i'm trying to put them in a second status bar in the bottom of the screen that doesn't overlap with windows. I tried with dzen2 but it seems that wmfs doesn't like the "-dock" parameter of dzen2. There's something i can do with wmfs to reserve a small region in the bottom of the screen or there are other tools around that can achieve a similar result (with wmfs, of course)?

Thank you!

saschakb · 2011-05-23 18:40:23

At the moment, wmfs is eating up much too much cpu ressources. I made 3 screenshots of wmfs, wmii and fluxbox. All 3 wms running in idle mode. No background programs are running. Just take a look, at - how many full power cicles (2.3 MHz) wmfs needs in idle mode, compared to wmii or fluxbox. That of cause heatens up my notebook. For me, wmfs is the best of all wms, but at the moment, it consumes too much ressources and power.
wmfs: http://666kb.com/i/btqmc5mhfwc94bjwb.png
Fluxbox: http://666kb.com/i/btqmab3c3bg37eauz.png
wmii: http://666kb.com/i/btqmb4rzuq6wi7t6j.png

I'm using the most actual git version from AUR. If there are any ideas, how to fix that behaviour - that would be very welcome!

Thanks

karol · 2011-05-23 18:52:12

saschakb wrote:

At the moment, wmfs is eating up much too much cpu ressources. I made 3 screenshots of wmfs, wmii and fluxbox. All 3 wms running in idle mode. No background programs are running. Just take a look, at - how many full power cicles (2.3 MHz) wmfs needs in idle mode, compared to wmii or fluxbox. That of cause heatens up my notebook. For me, wmfs is the best of all wms, but at the moment, it consumes too much ressources and power.
wmfs: http://666kb.com/i/btqmc5mhfwc94bjwb.png
Fluxbox: http://666kb.com/i/btqmab3c3bg37eauz.png
wmii: http://666kb.com/i/btqmb4rzuq6wi7t6j.png
I'm using the most actual git version from AUR. If there are any ideas, how to fix that behaviour - that would be very welcome!
Thanks

Sorry, but where's the number you're referring too? I'm a bit confused and I don't know what to look at on those screenshots.

Edit: Oh, do you mean 2.3 Ghz?

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sironitomas · 2011-05-23 18:56:35

Is this bug (http://wmfs.info/issues/92) ever going to be so solved? More than a month ago, bacardi said the team will take care about this soon, but the bug in the project page isn't even assigned to anyone.

Thanks.

Last edited by sironitomas (2011-05-23 18:57:11)

saschakb · 2011-05-23 19:07:22

Yes, I was speaking about the 40%-50% 2.30 GHz in idle mode. That's much too much. For the moment - I return to wmii, waiting for a solution too this.

xorg62 · 2011-05-23 19:15:08

sironitomas: https://github.com/xorg62/wmfs/commit/7 … 7b4d6af956
I began to work on it on active dev branch.

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