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#151 2015-07-21 17:05:07

Weegee
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

How is linux-zen compared to the more popular linux-ck patchset, which also aims for desktop performance/interactivity?


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#152 2015-07-21 18:49:46

heftig
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

I have made no comparisons against linux-ck.

We've carried BFS in ZEN for a long while but I'm not building with it enabled. It has caused problems in the past and is missing cgroup support. Con is also slow to port it to new kernels, so I won't wait for it.

Liquorix is a rebranding of ZEN providing binary packages for Debian. The code is identical.

Last edited by heftig (2015-07-21 18:50:11)

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#153 2015-07-21 23:48:28

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Is firefox-developer-edition less protected than arch firefox package?

hardening-check /usr/bin/firefox-developer-edition
/usr/bin/firefox-developer-edition:
Position Independent Executable: yes
Stack protected: yes
Fortify Source functions: no, only unprotected functions found!
Read-only relocations: yes
Immediate binding: no, not found!

hardening-check /usr/bin/firefox
/usr/bin/firefox:
Position Independent Executable: yes
Stack protected: yes
Fortify Source functions: yes (some protected functions found)
Read-only relocations: yes
Immediate binding: no, not found!

Is it normal fortify is not enabled?

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#154 2015-08-12 08:18:59

AnAkkk
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Since the update to v42, I am getting some random lockups. Anyone else getting the same issue?

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#155 2015-08-12 11:30:41

heftig
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

AnAkkk wrote:

Since the update to v42, I am getting some random lockups. Anyone else getting the same issue?

Are you using DRI3? I've seen similar lockups when DRI3 is enabled.

(A shame, since DRI3 is tear-free and butter-smooth and doesn't have the frame rate problems DRI2+TearFree has.)

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#156 2015-08-12 11:32:04

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

heftig wrote:
AnAkkk wrote:

Since the update to v42, I am getting some random lockups. Anyone else getting the same issue?

Are you using DRI3? I've seen similar lockups when DRI3 is enabled.

(A shame, since DRI3 is tear-free and butter-smooth and doesn't have the frame rate problems DRI2+TearFree has.)

Right, I just started using it to try to solve crashes with Plasma 5.

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#157 2015-08-14 06:33:13

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Linux-zen is on community, what the difference with you inux-zen?


Well, I suppose that this is somekind of signature, no?

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#158 2015-08-14 07:06:06

heftig
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Jristz wrote:

Linux-zen is on community, what the difference with you inux-zen?

It's the same package. It was moved.

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#159 2015-08-14 09:01:40

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

- Tweaks and fixes to improve usability and interactivity for desktops and laptops

Does this include CONFIG_HZ=1000?

If not, could you possibly add it? It is supposed to improve interactivity for desktops, and is the value used by the Fedora and openSUSE kernels.

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#160 2015-08-14 09:10:50

heftig
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

It doesn't seem to matter much these days. High resolution timers provide precise wake-ups even without having a frequent interrupt timer, while NO_HZ prevents the timer from running while idling.

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#161 2015-08-17 10:12:54

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

- Defaults to YeAH for TCP congestion control

Is there any specific reason for this? All benchmarks I can find on TCP congestion control algorithms seem to show that the default "cubic" is the best.

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#162 2015-08-17 12:45:33

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

AnAkkk wrote:

- Defaults to YeAH for TCP congestion control

Is there any specific reason for this? All benchmarks I can find on TCP congestion control algorithms seem to show that the default "cubic" is the best.

See the YeAH paper for the conclusions and some comparisons.

Last edited by Earnestly (2015-08-17 12:45:48)

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#163 2015-08-17 19:18:22

AnAkkk
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

I found another paper yesterday which was also talking about YeAH and was showing that cubic was the best, but I can't find it anymore now hmm

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#164 2015-08-18 01:35:04

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

YeAH as default was added by Damentz.

Here's another paper that shows how the algorithms react to each other: http://www.satnac.org.za/proceedings/20 … ies/15.pdf

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#165 2015-08-18 12:45:59

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

I just benchmarked linux-zen vs linux-bfq (from AUR) and I have a better performance with linux-bfq for some reason.
In TF2 (the test was done twice on both kernel to ensure that the result was correct):
linux-zen 123 FPS
linux-bfq 132 FPS

With compress-7zip in phoronix-test-suite:
linux-zen 17 899 MIPS
linux-bfq 18 457 MIPS

I build linux-bfq with CPU native optimizations and CONFIG_HZ=1000, not sure if these two are making the difference.

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#166 2015-09-07 17:23:28

heftig
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

I am currently running FDE with these settings, and scrolling is butter-smooth most of the time:

layers.acceleration.force-enabled = true
layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled = true
layers.enable-tiles = true
gfx.canvas.azure.backends = skia,cairo
dom.ipc.processCount = 20
browser.tabs.remote.autostart = true

The critical settings in this case are electrolysis, APZ and tiling.

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#167 2015-09-23 09:12:55

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Since the update to v43, HTML5 youtube videos no longer work for me.

EDIT: Had to set media.fragmented-mp4.gmp.enabled back to false.

Last edited by AnAkkk (2015-09-23 09:13:57)

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#168 2015-11-05 14:53:19

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Thanks!! This repo is awesome!


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#169 2016-03-30 22:05:41

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

With GTK 3.20 there seem to be rendering issues in firefox. GTK 3.20 is currently in the gnome-unstable repo.
The firefox package received a patch to fix these issues:

https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit … f2a0e722a3

Could you please apply this on your package?

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#170 2016-03-30 22:06:28

heftig
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Not before gtk 3.20 lands in extra, sorry.

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#171 2016-04-09 16:19:15

AnAkkk
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

It has landed in extra now.

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#172 2016-05-15 10:39:56

beta990
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Hi heftig, thanks for providing the firefox-dev package. Unfortunately it keeps crashing for me.
Is it just me?

Thanks.

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#173 2016-05-15 10:43:16

AnAkkk
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

It started crashing for me as well few days ago, I've switched to nightly for now.

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#174 2016-05-15 11:13:02

beta990
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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Hi AnAkkk,

Did you compile or installed the bin? smile

Thanks.

Edit: New version doesn't seem to crash anymore smile

Last edited by beta990 (2016-05-17 19:58:18)

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#175 2017-04-27 16:38:04

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Re: heftig's nightlies: Firefox, Freetype, and more

Hi @heftig,
I was wondering what will be the fate of firefox-developer-edition in your repo now [1]?

[1]: https://arstechnica.com/information-tec … illed-off/

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