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#26 2011-05-11 06:31:20

lawliet
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

eihon wrote:

關鍵應該在於不解壓縮吧，記得下載下來才400多解壓縮2G(超大)
小弟亂猜測

回taylorchu
對，就是下面那個工作列



另外順便詢問如果我要裝
RADIOTRAY.DEB這個檔案的話該怎做呢

謝謝

AUR有
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php? … _Search=Go

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#27 2011-05-11 07:33:53

taylorchu
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

@eihon
你是指 我製作的live cd (https://github.com/taylorchu/march/wiki)嗎？
那個工具列叫作tint2 目前評價還不錯
如果有bug去他們的專案回報

@lawliet
你好 我一開始也是看你的介紹文來到arch
我後來使用arch兩年多 Linux大大小小的事都懂了

CD 700 mb再使用xz壓縮下其實非常夠用
但是問題是要上傳到哪裡呢？
總不能上傳到badongo, megaupload吧?
我目前是上傳到github專案但是專案只給300mb
我不知道上傳700mb會怎樣
好像有點濫用...

@everyone
為了省點空間 我的live cd只用GTK2 套件 (完全沒有用到gnome或是kde, xfce)
從arch lnf 選了一些很有代表性的GUI套件(我想一般人用ncurses或是commandline會瘋掉)
目前已經完全包好了 約450mb (基於openbox...為此我又進步不少...我想我明年就去arch dev team試試)

我的計劃是成立"Linux Lighweight Apps Foundation"推廣minimal dependency apps
而這個計劃的主軸就是把最好的minimal dependency apps放進 March live CD
鼓勵小型軟體開發者 專案有點類似lxde 但是卻不是固定開發者 而是有點類似聯盟的感覺
最後當然是由archlinux把成果包起來

"After you do enough distro research, you will choose Arch."

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#28 2011-05-11 07:45:31

eihon
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

0.0另外問個笨問題..........aur下載後，該如何使用><

第一次使用這套作業系統，真的很多不會...希望前輩不吝指教

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#29 2011-05-11 08:13:38

lawliet
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

其實WIKI都有答案，寫的很清晰明瞭
多加善用搜尋

AUR
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar … 6%96%87%29

makepkg
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ma … 6%96%87%29

Last edited by lawliet (2011-05-11 08:13:56)

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#30 2011-05-11 08:19:15

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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

贊成talorchu的想法，
史嘟雖然還只是初學者，
在套件的選擇也是儘可能輕量，
史嘟想以LXDE為基礎，
將套件改為更輕量的。
史嘟也必須考慮到好用。
外觀……XP等級就夠了。

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#31 2011-05-11 09:19:26

taylorchu
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

@stu2731652
lxde是建立在 Openbox上的
所以我已經找到"最小構成"了

我今天在打包一次
kernel更新真是快

"After you do enough distro research, you will choose Arch."

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#32 2011-05-11 09:56:19

leaf
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

各位先進好。
前陣子開始摸索 Arch,
儘管安裝系統與簡單的套件管理大致上已經沒有問題，
卻一直困惑於 mirrorlist 的配置。

mirrorlist 若是胡亂啟用一堆鏡像站點似乎很容易引起套件同步的混亂。

官方有個同步列表，但並不是那麼容易理解：
http://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/
請問我該如何判斷哪些站點應該啟用與否？
又，最好把 mirror 數量控制在多少？

另外還有查到 reflector 這個工具，
好像和 apt-spy 是一樣的意思？ @@?

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#33 2011-05-11 10:04:55

lawliet
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

其實在這裡討論不太好，討論的類型太雜了
有鑑於此所以我弄了一個ArchLinux中文支援站
http://www.archlinux-tw.ddns.info/bbs/index.php

之後會想辦法爭於Arch官方的支持
成為官方中文站，在此之前大家先將就一下

Last edited by lawliet (2011-05-11 10:06:24)

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#34 2011-05-11 10:47:31

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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

eihon wrote:

0.0另外問個笨問題..........aur下載後，該如何使用><

第一次使用這套作業系統，真的很多不會...希望前輩不吝指教

裝 yaourt 最方便
http://archlinux.fr/yaourt-en#get_it
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Yaourt

然後
yaourt -S radiotray

Last edited by jhtsai0825 (2011-05-11 10:48:35)

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#35 2011-05-11 10:53:09

jhtsai0825
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

leaf wrote:

各位先進好。
前陣子開始摸索 Arch,
儘管安裝系統與簡單的套件管理大致上已經沒有問題，
卻一直困惑於 mirrorlist 的配置。

mirrorlist 若是胡亂啟用一堆鏡像站點似乎很容易引起套件同步的混亂。

官方有個同步列表，但並不是那麼容易理解：
http://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/
請問我該如何判斷哪些站點應該啟用與否？
又，最好把 mirror 數量控制在多少？

另外還有查到 reflector 這個工具，
好像和 apt-spy 是一樣的意思？ @@?

wiki
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mi … _Reflector
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Reflector

另外可參考
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Im … erformance

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#36 2011-05-11 11:03:55

leaf
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

jhtsai0825 wrote:
leaf wrote:

各位先進好。
前陣子開始摸索 Arch,
儘管安裝系統與簡單的套件管理大致上已經沒有問題，
卻一直困惑於 mirrorlist 的配置。

mirrorlist 若是胡亂啟用一堆鏡像站點似乎很容易引起套件同步的混亂。

官方有個同步列表，但並不是那麼容易理解：
http://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/
請問我該如何判斷哪些站點應該啟用與否？
又，最好把 mirror 數量控制在多少？

另外還有查到 reflector 這個工具，
好像和 apt-spy 是一樣的意思？ @@?

wiki
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mi … _Reflector
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Reflector

另外可參考
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Im … erformance

嗯嗯……感謝幫助～

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#37 2011-05-11 12:49:07

eihon
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

lawliet wrote:

其實在這裡討論不太好，討論的類型太雜了
有鑑於此所以我弄了一個ArchLinux中文支援站
http://www.archlinux-tw.ddns.info/bbs/index.php

之後會想辦法爭於Arch官方的支持
成為官方中文站，在此之前大家先將就一下

我也贊同這麼做，在UBUNTU正體中文那邊也是因為一整串，整個問題要看很多頁才會找到
用這樣分門別類，反而更方便，希望大家一起換來這邊討論^^

另外我有個問題
我就順便以此作為頭
希望大家來這邊解答
http://www.archlinux-tw.ddns.info/bbs/v … c.php?id=3

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#38 2011-05-12 21:15:12

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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

這裡有另外一個Archlinux討論區 提克論壇 http://tailinchu.tk/bbs/viewforum.php?id=10
能夠轉信或把資源整合嗎? 目標是盡量讓正體中文的Archlinux資源不要太分散

Arch Linux i686(kernel: 3.1.7-ck, xfce) running on Toshiba s100 (Pentium M 1.73GHz, 1.5GB RAM, 40GB HD, Nvidia 6600/6200 TE 64MB)

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#39 2011-05-15 04:16:07

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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

@taylorchu

maybe you should make x86_64.iso, too?

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#40 2011-05-15 21:27:06

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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

@once
I will need a 64bit machine so that i can test the iso.
I will probably upgrade the entire iso to 64bit after one year.

"After you do enough distro research, you will choose Arch."

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#41 2011-05-16 08:26:11

once
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

taylorchu wrote:

@once
I will need a 64bit machine so that i can test the iso.
I will probably upgrade the entire iso to 64bit after one year.

ok, but 64bit is very cheaper now, in my case athlonx2+mb+4gram=NT$3000.

btw, how to change resolution to 1024x768 on March livemode?

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#42 2011-05-16 09:51:51

taylorchu
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

xorg will auto detect your hardware.
If not, please post xorg config.

"After you do enough distro research, you will choose Arch."

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#43 2011-05-16 09:56:28

once
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

taylorchu wrote:

xorg will auto detect your hardware.
If not, please post xorg config.

no, it does not auto detect hardware, and no xorg.conf out there.

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#44 2011-05-17 09:47:37

taylorchu
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

I finally have a 64bit cpu from my roommate. he is such a nice guy!
so march64 is coming!

BTW, are you using march with virtualbox?

"After you do enough distro research, you will choose Arch."

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#45 2011-05-17 12:20:21

once
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

taylorchu wrote:

BTW, are you using march with virtualbox?

no, livemode with real hardware.

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#46 2011-05-18 01:36:16

taylorchu
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

what video driver did you use for this computer?
March has intel, ati, nouveau, and vesa video driver. (which is ok for almost all modern computer.)
It is really likely that your hardware is not in the list above, so by default, it uses vesa.

Last edited by taylorchu (2011-05-18 01:37:09)

"After you do enough distro research, you will choose Arch."

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#47 2011-05-18 03:26:02

once
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

its nvidia needed.

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#48 2011-05-22 03:02:27

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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

fixed now

"After you do enough distro research, you will choose Arch."

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#49 2011-05-22 04:37:30

once
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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

taylorchu wrote:

fixed now

no, you don't.

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#50 2011-05-22 05:02:52

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Re: ArchLinux 推廣教學起跑！

this will not fix fermi card.

"After you do enough distro research, you will choose Arch."

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