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#601 2014-01-30 13:06:27

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hi,

broken pipe wrote:

is it possible to enable window tiling?

You can replace Marco with a tiling window manager if you want. In MATE 1.8 (due later this year) Marco has had some tiling/snapping functionality added.

Last edited by flexiondotorg (2014-01-30 13:06:55)


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#602 2014-04-13 22:50:21

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Mate keyring is compiled with libgcrypt.so.11, and pacman requires the newest version (libgcrypt.so.20) otherwise it throws a tantrum. I basically have to manually install the old version of libgcrypt to /usr/local/lib, and softlink  /usr/local/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 to /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 to keep my system stable, this is a quick and dirty patch that breaks every time there is a sufficiently large update. I don't know how long the patch will work before I can't get Mate to start properly because Mate keyring is a core component that is required fore mate-session to function properly.

mate power manager  requires libupower-glib.so.1, and the newest version in the Arch repo is libupower-glib.so.2, I have been manually softlinking /usr/lib/libupower-glib.so to /usr/lib/libupower-glib.so.1 as a stopgap measure for this, but again, I'm not sure how long the patch will continue to hold. mate-session treats mate power manager as a critical component, and refuses to start properly without it.

If I didn't start Mate using startx -- vt11, and then dig through the errors that were printed in vt1, I would have a brick, and no way to figure out what went wrong. Please release a version of these core components that are compiled against current libraries so more of these problems don't accumulate.

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#603 2014-04-13 23:07:05

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

mate-keyring and libmatekeyring were obsoleted in MATE 1.8. See the following for details on how to upgrade from 1.6 to 1.8.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MA … 1.6_to_1.8

I'll investigate mate-power-manager tomorrow.


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#604 2014-04-13 23:45:41

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

flexiondotorg wrote:

mate-keyring and libmatekeyring were obsoleted in MATE 1.8. See the following for details on how to upgrade from 1.6 to 1.8.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MA … 1.6_to_1.8

I'll investigate mate-power-manager tomorrow.

I see. Thank you.

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#605 2014-04-14 06:47:23

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

I recently updated my machine running the mesa radeon drivers, rebooted, and then I tried to start MATE. I end up with a black screen with a cursor, no panels, no desktop, no keyboard shortcuts. Nothing but what appears to be a fully functioning mouse pointer. It's sister install, which uses the fglrx driver is perfectly fine. I tried reconfiguring xorg.conf, and wiping my settings, but the problem persists. I can't even figure out where the MATE settings are located, so I just wiped the entire account and loaded it with config files from the working install. Nothing worked. The terminal output suggests that all of the startup applications are up and running, but they do not show up. Usually I can find errors that point to the problem, but as far as that install is concerned, there is no problem.

EDIT: I couldn't find the problem, so I will be nuking that install, and replace it with a backup.

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#606 2014-04-14 10:48:05

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

l0vot wrote:

mate power manager  requires libupower-glib.so.1, and the newest version in the Arch repo is libupower-glib.so.2, I have been manually softlinking /usr/lib/libupower-glib.so to /usr/lib/libupower-glib.so.1 as a stopgap measure for this, but again, I'm not sure how long the patch will continue to hold. mate-session treats mate power manager as a critical component, and refuses to start properly without it.

The upower package from the official reposities provides `libupower-glib.so.1` not `libupower-glib.so.2`. The version you have installed appear to be from the testing repositories. See the package contents below.

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/upower/
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/X86_64/upower/

Therefore the MATE packages in the [community] repository are correct.

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#607 2014-04-14 12:22:38

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

flexiondotorg wrote:
l0vot wrote:

mate power manager  requires libupower-glib.so.1, and the newest version in the Arch repo is libupower-glib.so.2, I have been manually softlinking /usr/lib/libupower-glib.so to /usr/lib/libupower-glib.so.1 as a stopgap measure for this, but again, I'm not sure how long the patch will continue to hold. mate-session treats mate power manager as a critical component, and refuses to start properly without it.

The upower package from the official reposities provides `libupower-glib.so.1` not `libupower-glib.so.2`. The version you have installed appear to be from the testing repositories. See the package contents below.

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/upower/
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/X86_64/upower/

Therefore the MATE packages in the [community] repository are correct.

So, i'm guessing it's too soon for a mate-testing repo. I can deal with that, but in this case, mate power manager just needs to look for libupower-glib.so instead of libupower-glib.so.1. I never really got the point of the libxxx.so.x version labeling, because if it's actually an incompatible version the program will spit out errors involving libxxx.so being the wrong version anyways.

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#608 2014-04-14 13:23:07

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

When a package is promoted from testing that changes the version of the shared library all dependant packages are flagged for a rebuild. Only when all the packages have been rebuilt against the new version will they be released. So when upower is due for promotion from testing, I will be notified and will have to submit new builds to [community-testing].


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#609 2014-04-14 21:34:37

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

OK, just done an update and now I can't start MATE with this error:

/etc/mdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
/etc/mdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- mate-session

And then complains about some "libupower-glib.so" file (I didn't catch the last few characters, and logging into Cinnamon overwrote .xsession-errors file).

This is the list of upgraded packages:

[2014-04-14 21:37] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syyu'
[2014-04-14 21:37] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2014-04-14 21:38] [PACMAN] starting full system upgrade
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded glib2 (2.38.2-1 -> 2.40.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded at-spi2-core (2.10.2-1 -> 2.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded atk (2.10.0-1 -> 2.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded at-spi2-atk (2.10.2-1 -> 2.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gdk-pixbuf2 (2.30.6-1 -> 2.30.7-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gtk-update-icon-cache (2.24.22-1 -> 2.24.23-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded pango (1.36.3-1 -> 1.36.3-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gtk3 (3.10.7-1 -> 3.12.1-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gmime (2.6.18-1 -> 2.6.20-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gsettings-desktop-schemas (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded glib-networking (2.38.2-1 -> 2.40.1-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libsoup (2.44.2-1 -> 2.46.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded totem-plparser (3.10.1-1 -> 3.10.2-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded dconf (0.18.0-1 -> 0.20.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libtracker-sparql (0.16.4-1 -> 1.0.0-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libsecret (0.16-2 -> 0.18-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gvfs (1.18.3-3 -> 1.20.1-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded brasero (3.10.0-1 -> 3.11.3-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-desktop (2.0.4-1 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] installed js17 (17.0.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded polkit (0.112-1 -> 0.112-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libplist (1.10-1 -> 1.11-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] installed libusbmuxd (1.0.9-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libimobiledevice (1.1.5-2 -> 1.1.6-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded upower (0.9.23-2 -> 0.99.0-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-settings-daemon (2.0.8-4 -> 2.0.8-6)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-session (2.0.6-2 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-translations (2.0.3-1 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gobject-introspection (1.38.0-1 -> 1.40.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cjs (2.0.0-1 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cogl (1.16.2-1 -> 1.18.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded json-glib (0.16.2-1 -> 1.0.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] installed libinput (0.1.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded clutter (1.16.4-3 -> 1.18.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded clutter-gtk (1.4.4-4 -> 1.5.2-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-icon-theme-symbolic (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-icon-theme (3.10.0-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-themes-standard (3.10.0-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libgnome-keyring (3.10.1-2 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded muffin (2.0.5-2 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded webkitgtk (2.2.5-2 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-screensaver (2.0.3-4 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] installed cinnamon-menus (2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded nemo (2.0.8-3 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon (2.0.14-3 -> 2.2.1-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded rest (0.7.90-2 -> 0.7.91-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded telepathy-glib (0.22.1-1 -> 0.24.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gcr (3.10.1-3 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-online-accounts (3.10.2-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded libgweather (3.10.2-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded libgdata (0.14.1-1 -> 0.15.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded evolution-data-server (3.10.4-1 -> 3.12.1-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded fontsproto (2.1.2-1 -> 2.1.3-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded glibmm (2.38.1-1 -> 2.40.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-common (3.10.0-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-desktop (1:3.10.2-1 -> 1:3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gtk2 (2.24.22-1 -> 2.24.23-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gtkmm3 (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gucharmap (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded js (17.0.0-1 -> 24.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded libgee (0.12.0-1 -> 0.14.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded libgpod (0.8.3-1 -> 0.8.3-2)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded pygobject-devel (3.10.2-2 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded python2-gobject (3.10.2-2 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded python2-atspi (2.10.0-2 -> 2.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded seahorse (3.10.2-1 -> 3.12.0-2)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded usbmuxd (1.0.8-2 -> 1.0.9-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded vala (0.22.1-1 -> 0.24.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded vte-common (0.34.9-1 -> 0.36.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded webkitgtk2 (2.2.5-2 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded yelp-xsl (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded yelp (3.10.2-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded yelp-tools (3.10.0-1 -> 3.12.0-1)

Claire is fine.
Problems? I have dysgraphia, so clear and concise please.
My public GPG key for package signing
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#610 2014-04-15 05:10:22

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

clfarron4 wrote:

OK, just done an update and now I can't start MATE with this error:

/etc/mdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
/etc/mdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- mate-session

And then complains about some "libupower-glib.so" file (I didn't catch the last few characters, and logging into Cinnamon overwrote .xsession-errors file).

This is the list of upgraded packages:

[2014-04-14 21:37] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syyu'
[2014-04-14 21:37] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2014-04-14 21:38] [PACMAN] starting full system upgrade
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded glib2 (2.38.2-1 -> 2.40.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded at-spi2-core (2.10.2-1 -> 2.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded atk (2.10.0-1 -> 2.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded at-spi2-atk (2.10.2-1 -> 2.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gdk-pixbuf2 (2.30.6-1 -> 2.30.7-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gtk-update-icon-cache (2.24.22-1 -> 2.24.23-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded pango (1.36.3-1 -> 1.36.3-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gtk3 (3.10.7-1 -> 3.12.1-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gmime (2.6.18-1 -> 2.6.20-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gsettings-desktop-schemas (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded glib-networking (2.38.2-1 -> 2.40.1-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libsoup (2.44.2-1 -> 2.46.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded totem-plparser (3.10.1-1 -> 3.10.2-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded dconf (0.18.0-1 -> 0.20.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libtracker-sparql (0.16.4-1 -> 1.0.0-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libsecret (0.16-2 -> 0.18-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gvfs (1.18.3-3 -> 1.20.1-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded brasero (3.10.0-1 -> 3.11.3-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-desktop (2.0.4-1 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] installed js17 (17.0.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded polkit (0.112-1 -> 0.112-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libplist (1.10-1 -> 1.11-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] installed libusbmuxd (1.0.9-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libimobiledevice (1.1.5-2 -> 1.1.6-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded upower (0.9.23-2 -> 0.99.0-2)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-settings-daemon (2.0.8-4 -> 2.0.8-6)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-session (2.0.6-2 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-translations (2.0.3-1 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gobject-introspection (1.38.0-1 -> 1.40.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cjs (2.0.0-1 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded cogl (1.16.2-1 -> 1.18.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded json-glib (0.16.2-1 -> 1.0.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] installed libinput (0.1.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded clutter (1.16.4-3 -> 1.18.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded clutter-gtk (1.4.4-4 -> 1.5.2-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-icon-theme-symbolic (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-icon-theme (3.10.0-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-themes-standard (3.10.0-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded libgnome-keyring (3.10.1-2 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:44] [PACMAN] upgraded muffin (2.0.5-2 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded webkitgtk (2.2.5-2 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon-screensaver (2.0.3-4 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] installed cinnamon-menus (2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded nemo (2.0.8-3 -> 2.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded cinnamon (2.0.14-3 -> 2.2.1-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded rest (0.7.90-2 -> 0.7.91-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded telepathy-glib (0.22.1-1 -> 0.24.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gcr (3.10.1-3 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-online-accounts (3.10.2-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded libgweather (3.10.2-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded libgdata (0.14.1-1 -> 0.15.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded evolution-data-server (3.10.4-1 -> 3.12.1-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded fontsproto (2.1.2-1 -> 2.1.3-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded glibmm (2.38.1-1 -> 2.40.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-common (3.10.0-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gnome-desktop (1:3.10.2-1 -> 1:3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gtk2 (2.24.22-1 -> 2.24.23-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gtkmm3 (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded gucharmap (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded js (17.0.0-1 -> 24.2.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded libgee (0.12.0-1 -> 0.14.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded libgpod (0.8.3-1 -> 0.8.3-2)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded pygobject-devel (3.10.2-2 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded python2-gobject (3.10.2-2 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded python2-atspi (2.10.0-2 -> 2.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded seahorse (3.10.2-1 -> 3.12.0-2)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded usbmuxd (1.0.8-2 -> 1.0.9-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded vala (0.22.1-1 -> 0.24.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded vte-common (0.34.9-1 -> 0.36.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded webkitgtk2 (2.2.5-2 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded yelp-xsl (3.10.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded yelp (3.10.2-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2014-04-14 21:45] [PACMAN] upgraded yelp-tools (3.10.0-1 -> 3.12.0-1)

If you have the testing repo enabled, you have the wrong version of upower, softlinking /usr/lib/libupower.so to /usr/lib/libupower.so.1 will allow mate to start, BUT, power management will not work, which is mostly a problem on laptops because you cannot control the backlight, and suspend on lid close doesn't seem to work either. You could install an older version of upower to /usr/local, and then softlink /usr/local/libupower.so to  /usr/lib/libupower.so.1 to get power management back (not tested, yet)

EDIT, the newest version of upower has been moved from testing to extra, so mate-power-manager will break on you If you update your system before a new version of mate-power-manager is released. In the case that you do update upower, the above "solutions" will at least allow you to get mate-session to run.

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#611 2014-04-15 05:19:30

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Or do the right thing and rebuild mate-session against the new lib.

Please don't suggest symlinking incompatible versions of libraries.

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#612 2014-04-15 05:39:26

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Scimmia wrote:

Or do the right thing and rebuild mate-session against the new lib.

Please don't suggest symlinking incompatible versions of libraries.

My "solutions" as ugly as they may be are only meant to allow mate-session to start until the devs update mate-power-manager, and are unlikely to spawn more problems. I do "fixes" like this out of desperation, not because I think they are the best solution. Also, I already suggested updating mate-power-manager in my previous posts, and I was shot down.

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#613 2014-04-15 10:03:42

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hey there! I'm new in the forum.
I've got the same problem yesterday when I was updating the system.
I made a workaround for now by making a symbolic link:

sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libupower-glib.so.2 /usr/lib/libupower-glib.so.1

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#614 2014-04-15 10:23:44

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hi all,

Oh dear. The upower 0.99 release happened and didn't trigger the usual rebuild notification that would require me to rebuild the affected packages. This means, all you fine MATE users got a borked system. I'm really sorry about that!

I have released updated packages, so when your mirror sync you should find updates for:

  • mate-session-manager 1.8.1-2 which disables upower completely as the Fedora team are currently doing to Fedora 21.

  • mate-power-manager 1.8.0-2 which adds patches to (hopefully) support upower 0.99.

  • mate-applets 1.8.0-3 which is simply a rebuilt against upower 0.99 since it is upower 1.0 ready.

A ticket was raised, which is now closed.

When your mirror sync, update with 'pacman -Syu' and if you created symlinks for '/usr/lib/libupower-glib.so.1' please remove them.

Terribly sorry for this mess. It shouldn't have happened this way, but the updated packages above should fix your systems.

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#615 2014-04-15 14:54:56

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flexiondotorg wrote:

snip

Thank you.

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#616 2014-05-03 08:57:45

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hey, so if anyone's daring, there's now a MATE GTK3 development branch for Arch!

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/archlinux_custom_repo#gtk3


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#617 2014-05-04 19:08:19

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hey everyone,

I'm trying to use MATE + compiz, but am having trouble figuring out where to change the window decoration themes. I found instructions here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Co … -decorator, but they only seem to apply to gnome. Mate doesn't have the appropriate keys. To get compiz working I installed compiz-mate and the other recommended packages. Anyone have any pointers? I guess I could try installing compiz-core instead and going from there.

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#618 2014-05-29 18:22:16

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hello! Thanx for mate :-)

I have been testing gtk3, and there is something wrong with the panels and themes. The items i add are not visible. When I downgrade back to gtk2, i have some 20-30 items on the panel which i have to remove one by one. I have logged in and out and tested various themes, but it does not seem to help much.

Also the themes are a bit weird looking. Mostly all windows have the black lines not exactly around the windows like in gtk2, but some 10's of millimeters inside the window border, making it look as if the window decorator was not able to draw the lines correctly. Otheriwse the text and menus look great. But it kinda feels a bit unfinished yet to be used without constant irritation as to the aesthetics of it.

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#619 2014-05-30 11:22:23

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

linfan wrote:

Hello! Thanx for mate :-)

I have been testing gtk3, and there is something wrong with the panels and themes. The items i add are not visible. When I downgrade back to gtk2, i have some 20-30 items on the panel which i have to remove one by one. I have logged in and out and tested various themes, but it does not seem to help much.

Also the themes are a bit weird looking. Mostly all windows have the black lines not exactly around the windows like in gtk2, but some 10's of millimeters inside the window border, making it look as if the window decorator was not able to draw the lines correctly. Otheriwse the text and menus look great. But it kinda feels a bit unfinished yet to be used without constant irritation as to the aesthetics of it.

The best thing is to go over to the MATE Github and contribute there. I think there have been issues with getting mate-panel to behave in GTK3, so that, in part, explains some of the issues.


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#620 2014-06-07 05:31:19

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

The system monitor applet is b0rked, this is new. That specific applet is one of the main reasons I use MATE instead of LXDE, and is absurdly useful to me. I have an entire panel dedicated to system monitoring and control with the system monitor applet as the centerpiece. Seriously, that is the one and only system monitor applet that actually monitors everything and can be placed on a panel, there are no others that are as complete as it is. Now it doesn't even start.

The timer applet is missing it's alarm option, and the timer dialogue does not open upon clicking, it can be reached by right clicking and going to preferences, but that is a bit clunky for an applet that's sole purpose is to operate as a timer. Props to whoever actually got it to work at all (it has been completly broken from the beginning).

Mate-panel panels (still) do not always show up if auto hide is enabled unless you activate said panel manually using Ctrl-Alt-Tab, which leads me to my next issue

Ctrl-Alt-Tab only selects the next item, pressing tab more times does not move the panel cursor, so using Ctrl-Alt-Tab will only toggle the first two items in the list. In order to select a specific item (if there are more than 2) then Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Tab must be used, which selects items at the end of the list, and once those items have been selected they move to the front, thus allowing you to select a specific item, but it's still clunky and inefficient, and broken from the beginning.

I still can't find a way to prevent caja from starting upon login without renaming caja so mate-session can't locate it.

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#621 2014-06-07 10:52:14

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

l0vot wrote:

The system monitor applet is b0rked, this is new. That specific applet is one of the main reasons I use MATE instead of LXDE, and is absurdly useful to me. I have an entire panel dedicated to system monitoring and control with the system monitor applet as the centerpiece. Seriously, that is the one and only system monitor applet that actually monitors everything and can be placed on a panel, there are no others that are as complete as it is. Now it doesn't even start.

The timer applet is missing it's alarm option, and the timer dialogue does not open upon clicking, it can be reached by right clicking and going to preferences, but that is a bit clunky for an applet that's sole purpose is to operate as a timer. Props to whoever actually got it to work at all (it has been completly broken from the beginning).

Mate-panel panels (still) do not always show up if auto hide is enabled unless you activate said panel manually using Ctrl-Alt-Tab, which leads me to my next issue

Ctrl-Alt-Tab only selects the next item, pressing tab more times does not move the panel cursor, so using Ctrl-Alt-Tab will only toggle the first two items in the list. In order to select a specific item (if there are more than 2) then Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Tab must be used, which selects items at the end of the list, and once those items have been selected they move to the front, thus allowing you to select a specific item, but it's still clunky and inefficient, and broken from the beginning.

I still can't find a way to prevent caja from starting upon login without renaming caja so mate-session can't locate it.

Hey, which branch of MATE is this? [community] (1.8) or GTK3 1.9?


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#622 2014-06-07 21:42:00

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

clfarron4 wrote:
l0vot wrote:

The system monitor applet is b0rked, this is new. That specific applet is one of the main reasons I use MATE instead of LXDE, and is absurdly useful to me. I have an entire panel dedicated to system monitoring and control with the system monitor applet as the centerpiece. Seriously, that is the one and only system monitor applet that actually monitors everything and can be placed on a panel, there are no others that are as complete as it is. Now it doesn't even start.

The timer applet is missing it's alarm option, and the timer dialogue does not open upon clicking, it can be reached by right clicking and going to preferences, but that is a bit clunky for an applet that's sole purpose is to operate as a timer. Props to whoever actually got it to work at all (it has been completly broken from the beginning).

Mate-panel panels (still) do not always show up if auto hide is enabled unless you activate said panel manually using Ctrl-Alt-Tab, which leads me to my next issue

Ctrl-Alt-Tab only selects the next item, pressing tab more times does not move the panel cursor, so using Ctrl-Alt-Tab will only toggle the first two items in the list. In order to select a specific item (if there are more than 2) then Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Tab must be used, which selects items at the end of the list, and once those items have been selected they move to the front, thus allowing you to select a specific item, but it's still clunky and inefficient, and broken from the beginning.

I still can't find a way to prevent caja from starting upon login without renaming caja so mate-session can't locate it.

Hey, which branch of MATE is this? [community] (1.8) or GTK3 1.9?

GTK2 1.8.1, I tried gtk3 unstable but that was completely broken so I had to switch back to GTK2 1.8.1

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#623 2014-07-05 19:15:38

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Will Mate 1.9.1 be added to the Arch repos, or will I have to install it manually?
http://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.9/

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#624 2014-07-05 19:55:42

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

l0vot wrote:

Will Mate 1.9.1 be added to the Arch repos, or will I have to install it manually?
http://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.9/

Good question. The GTK3 builds should be staying as additional repositories because there are still bits to work out.

I see no problem with GTk2 builds being pushed to [community], but we should wait for flexiondotorg.


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#625 2014-07-17 11:42:53

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

When I try to install mate 1.9 manually, I get this error from the configure script in a few packages:

checking for MATEDESKTOP... no
configure: error: Package requirements (mate-desktop-2.0 >= 1.9.0) were not met:

Requested 'mate-desktop-2.0 >= 1.9.0' but version of mate-desktop-2.0 is 1.8.1

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables MATEDESKTOP_CFLAGS
and MATEDESKTOP_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.

But mate-desktop 1.9 has been installed in /usr/local, how do I fix this?

make install installs to /usr/local by default

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