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#101 2011-08-24 19:52:50

totex71
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

karol wrote:
totex71 wrote:

got an error sad    :

error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/applications/session-properties.desktop exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/session-properties.svg exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

You may need to force the upgrade.


Thanks you so much!
damn it feels so awesome to be back on gnome 2. Thanks you Perberos for the great fork!! smile

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#102 2011-08-24 20:01:45

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

I took some time to install, I had to restart downloading is slow i'm using yaourt.
But it now it works very good.
Thank u!

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#103 2011-08-24 20:56:39

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

nicedream wrote:

Perberos uploaded the Mate DE packages for i686 and x86_64 to my server. 
For anyone who has been having trouble downloading Mate, you can try getting it from my mirror:

http://cptl.org/mate/

Awesome. Thank you.

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#104 2011-08-24 21:04:33

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

whats up with, that i need mate-volume-controle to get into my sound prefenses?? i cant find it anywhere sad

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#105 2011-08-25 00:31:42

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

ff is evil.
I hope to remove all file conflicts soon. When that happens, I'll post a list of packages that must be reinstalled. Because some files will disappear when fix the problems of conflict. (Those GNOME3 related)

xunil9025 wrote:

Hi
Can I ask why is it called Mate? Why not users-desktop-environment or simple-desktop-environment etc.....?
Mate sounds like something you can drink.


After posting I googled Mate and it's indeed something you can drink see wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29

Sorry my English is bad.

Yes.

Wikipedia wrote:

Drinking the yerba mate is considered to be more than just good for the body; it's also considered to be good for the soul. Drinking it can be a form of meditation or reflection - allowing the goodness to infuse into the body while stimulating and resting the mind. Those who share the mate join in a kind of bond of total acceptance and friendship. Generally the server will start a new infusion and then take the first drink. This is considered an act of kindness by the other people in the circle, because usually the first serving is considered the worst.

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#106 2011-08-25 00:36:11

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Will mate eventually have its own email since it has its own keyring? Like "mate-evolution" or "mate-email" etc.. Also, interested in if it will have a mateconf-editor like gconf-editor.

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#107 2011-08-25 00:53:55

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

dodo3773 wrote:

Will mate eventually have its own email since it has its own keyring? Like "mate-evolution" or "mate-email" etc.. Also, interested in if it will have a mateconf-editor like gconf-editor.

It already has a 'mateconf', it's mate-conf-editor.

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#108 2011-08-25 00:59:34

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Tea2 wrote:
dodo3773 wrote:

Will mate eventually have its own email since it has its own keyring? Like "mate-evolution" or "mate-email" etc.. Also, interested in if it will have a mateconf-editor like gconf-editor.

It already has a 'mateconf', it's mate-conf-editor.

All I have is "mateconftool-2". Is that what you mean?

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#109 2011-08-25 01:23:44

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

editor https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49983 or pacman -S mate-conf-editor

about email client or web browser, I suggest use thunderbird and firefox instead of evolution and ephiphany

Last edited by Perberos (2011-08-25 01:24:20)

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#110 2011-08-25 01:35:24

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Perberos wrote:

editor https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49983 or pacman -S mate-conf-editor

Thanks. I did not know there was one.

about email client or web browser, I suggest use thunderbird and firefox instead of evolution and ephiphany

I currently have thunderbird as my back up. I like evolution too much though. It works well in mate. It just will not remember passwords.

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#111 2011-08-25 07:02:14

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Try run pacman -S gnome-polkit

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#112 2011-08-25 09:24:32

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Perberos wrote:

Try run pacman -S gnome-polkit

If this was directed at me then polkit-gnome is already installed. I tried reinstalling and it did not make any difference.

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#113 2011-08-25 14:50:15

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Why multimedia keys doesn't work?

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#114 2011-08-25 19:12:58

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Current conflicts with GNOME 3:
http://pastebin.com/7mAM9KTw (es_ES)
http://pastebin.com/Z31WC2z1 (en_US)

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#115 2011-08-26 07:35:03

Perberos
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

oskar.einstein wrote:

Why multimedia keys doesn't work?

I can't tell you. I don't have a keyboard with multimedia keys.

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#116 2011-08-26 08:11:14

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Found a solution for the Evolution keyring problem after scouring the net:

#! /bin/bash

eval \`gnome-keyring-daemon\`
export GNOME_KEYRING_PID
export GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET

exit

It worked for me. I will test it further and see if I run into any problems before adding it to wiki.

Edit: Added to Evolution wiki instead of Mate wiki. Linked back to it in the troubleshooting section of Mate wiki.

Last edited by dodo3773 (2011-09-04 19:48:13)

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#117 2011-08-26 14:51:14

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Question - why are programs such as gucharmap being added into mate?  If the goal is to eventually convert these to GTK 3, then why don't we just use the versions that come with GNOME 3?  I mean, things like GNOME 3 panel don't have the full functionality of GNOME 2's, and we should convert those.  But forking gucharmap seems counterproductive to me; just fork GNOME 3's version.  This also applies to totem and nautilus; it's better to just fork the GTK 3 versions because they don't conflict with the GTK 2 panel and mate-session.

Last edited by RetroX (2011-08-26 14:56:25)

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#118 2011-08-26 18:25:36

Perberos
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Feel the magic of the fork

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#119 2011-08-26 18:28:00

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Perberos wrote:

Feel the magic of the fork


I definitely do so, Perberos! Thank you very much for doing this! You've done a really great job! Thanks God, I've got a usable desktop-environment again! big_smile wink

Last edited by Kopfweh (2011-08-26 18:28:44)

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#120 2011-08-26 18:28:39

Perberos
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

RetroX wrote:

Current conflicts with GNOME 3:
http://pastebin.com/7mAM9KTw (es_ES)
http://pastebin.com/Z31WC2z1 (en_US)

Thankyou so much.

I will put here what I miss to fix, like a self note.

mate-settings-daemon: /usr/bin/gsd-datetime-mechanism exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/bin/gsd-locate-pointer exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/touchpad-disabled.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/touchpad-enabled.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/gsd-xrandr.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/touchpad-disabled.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/touchpad-enabled.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/gsd-xrandr.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/actions/touchpad-disabled.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/actions/touchpad-enabled.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/gsd-xrandr.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/actions/touchpad-disabled.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/actions/touchpad-enabled.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/gsd-xrandr.png exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/actions/touchpad-disabled.svg exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/actions/touchpad-enabled.svg exists in filesystem
mate-settings-daemon: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/gsd-xrandr.svg exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/applications/session-properties.desktop exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/session-properties.png exists in filesystem
mate-session-manager: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/session-properties.svg exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/bin/gmenu-simple-editor exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/GMenu-2.0.typelib exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/__init__.py exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/__init__.pyc exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/__init__.pyo exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/config.py exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/config.pyc exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/config.pyo exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/main.py exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/main.pyc exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/main.pyo exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/maindialog.py exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/maindialog.pyc exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/maindialog.pyo exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/menufilewriter.py exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/menufilewriter.pyc exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/menufilewriter.pyo exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/menutreemodel.py exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/menutreemodel.pyc exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GMenuSimpleEditor/menutreemodel.pyo exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gmenu.so exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/applications/gmenu-simple-editor.desktop exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/AudioVideo.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Development.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Education.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Game.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Graphics.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Hardware.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Network.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Office.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Personal.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/System-Tools.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/System.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Utility-Accessibility.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/desktop-directories/Utility.directory exists in filesystem
mate-menus: /usr/share/gir-1.0/GMenu-2.0.gir exists in filesystem

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#121 2011-08-26 18:32:54

Kopfweh
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Perberos, I see now that I can not click on the shut-down-button in my panel, because it's greyed-out(not sure how I can spell it in english). I wanted to take a screenshot, but that also doesn't work and I get an error-message. Maybe you should try it yourself(making a screenshot) because I've the german language-packages installed and therefore the error-message won't help you very much.

Last edited by Kopfweh (2011-08-26 18:33:27)

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#122 2011-08-26 18:33:28

wonder
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

i still don't get it why your packages cannot be installed along with gnome 3. you can easy use /opt and get over this madness and also you can share some modules with gnome.

Give what you have. To someone, it may be better than you dare to think.

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#123 2011-08-26 18:44:46

RetroX
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Perberos wrote:

Feel the magic of the fork

But I still use the versions from GNOME 3... sad

The packages shouldn't conflict. hmm

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#124 2011-08-26 18:45:51

Perberos
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Already tried /opt, but it's hard and hurt to compile.
Mostly file conflicts are with generic names. GNOME is... GTK, and GTK is... GNOME, that's the question.

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#125 2011-08-26 18:47:17

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Actually, GTK is GIMP.  And even GIMP hasn't upgraded to GTK 3.  It should, though.

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