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#51 2011-07-28 07:19:10

Cdh
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

triplesquarednine wrote:

ya, the new flash isn't very good (especially since i am a compiz user).

Could it be worse with compiz?

I used it with xfwm4 with no compositing. In fullscreen videos the image often freezes for several seconds while the audio is still processing. Leaving fullscreen takes 10-15 seconds (!).
And I have a HD 6550 (with catalyst)  and i5 480M.

I'm now back to the multilib flashplugin. It's not good either, needs > 80% CPU to play a video, but still much better.


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#52 2011-07-28 14:25:09

triplesquarednine
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

Cdh wrote:
triplesquarednine wrote:

ya, the new flash isn't very good (especially since i am a compiz user).

Could it be worse with compiz?

I used it with xfwm4 with no compositing. In fullscreen videos the image often freezes for several seconds while the audio is still processing. Leaving fullscreen takes 10-15 seconds (!).
And I have a HD 6550 (with catalyst)  and i5 480M.

I'm now back to the multilib flashplugin. It's not good either, needs > 80% CPU to play a video, but still much better.

hmmmm....

no, i don't think it is worse with compiz (on my machine), than what you have said above.

I've only had it freeze/hang 1 time so far (which actually may have been compiz, as i had been playing around with my setting), and my CPU usage isn't anywhere near 80% ... max=50-60% on no more than 1-2 cores, while the others will usually be around 15-20%. but that is still much to high, for my tastes. it should function as is does in Umplayer... ie: very little CPU usage... I'm not using ATI though, i always buy Nvidia. so maybe your issues are different than mine to begin with.

I don't think the problem on my end, is vdpau + compiz, i think adobe flash just sucks wink

I might switch back to the old 64bit plugin (square) as it worked just fine for me.

cheerz

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#53 2011-07-28 17:47:37

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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

If anyone is interested in old 10.x package (it works better for me than 11.x):

http://andromeda.kiwilight.com/~dule/up … pkg.tar.xz

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#54 2011-07-30 00:37:53

triplesquarednine
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

Hey folks,

I solved my high CPU usage with the Latest 64bit Flash!  now, no core is using over 10% CPU!!! in fact, usually only one of my 4 cores will peak at 10%, while the rest stay around 4-5% smile smile

I had forgotten to do this;

su -c 'echo "OverrideGPUValidation=true"  > /etc/adobe/mms.cfg'

here's a link to some info that may be useful to you, regarding Adobe Flash;

http://www.webgapps.org/tutorials/firef … timization

I'm also using Flash with compiz enabled, haven't noticed any unstable crap yet ... it's been a few hours of using flash too - i basically have been running it, while i continue to setup this machine.

you might want to try it out, and see if the situation improves. My Nvidia card is nothing fancy on this machine, just a Geforce GT 440 ($70CDN).

cheerz

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#55 2011-07-30 09:22:13

Cdh
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

On fglrx it has absolutely no effect as well as "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1".


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#56 2011-07-30 14:30:13

triplesquarednine
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

Cdh wrote:

On fglrx it has absolutely no effect as well as "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1".

crappy.  that's too bad that the override has no effect, on my machine it was super obvious after adding it.

I hope Adobe and/or AMD gets this fixed, for those having troubles.

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#57 2011-07-30 15:02:12

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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

I reverted to the "unstable" 64bit version that flashplugin-prerelease once provided (an alpha of 10.3 or so) because flash 11 has major issues.
- Hardware decoding via VDPAU crashes the driver almost every second time I try it. Might be a driver issue of course, but VDPAU via mplayer and vlc works without any problems.
- With hardware decoding disabled, video decoding is even slower than it was in 10.3.
- After viewing a video on youtube, it sometimes locks up, consuming an entire CPU core. killall -9 plugin-container seems to be the only solution.
- Fullscreen mode? Not with more than two frames per second.

I've got an AMD Athlon X2 4000+ and a GeForce 9800GT, which obviously should be more than enough to playback 1080p in fullscreen, even in software if not using a h.264 codec, flash is the only software which doesn't manage to do it. And it's a shame that an official beta runs far worse than some random alpha version.

I've never been the biggest fan of flash, but this release is actually worse than I expected. Although it is of course great that Adobe finally supports an architecture which I've been using for more than 4 years without major problems.

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#58 2011-08-14 22:38:58

keks
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

karabaja4 wrote:

If anyone is interested in old 10.x package (it works better for me than 11.x):

http://andromeda.kiwilight.com/~dule/up … pkg.tar.xz

Much appreciated!

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#59 2011-08-17 08:45:27

ScionicSpectre
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

This is actually quite good- I'm lovin' it. D:

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#60 2011-08-18 05:06:58

BabyDoc
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Registered: 2008-03-20
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

Been using it for some time now, works pretty well. Seems to be lighter on my system than previous versions.

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#61 2011-08-18 18:32:33

Nepherte
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

Does someone know where I can find version 11 beta 1? A Google search turned up nothing.

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#62 2011-08-18 19:02:34

siriusb
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

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#63 2011-08-18 21:31:21

Nepherte
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

I only see beta 2 up there, not beta 1 :s

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#64 2011-08-19 05:36:45

siriusb
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Re: Flash 11 beta with x86_64 support!!!

I missed the 1. Sorry.

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