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#101 2011-12-21 16:06:36

Zom
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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

KlavKalashj wrote:
masteryod wrote:
KlavKalashj wrote:

Edit: I take that back. I can only get GStreamer to work reliably.

What about phonon-vlc? BTW what phonon backend is now the best?

I did not try that... Well, from what I've read, GStreamer is the 'official', recommended one, but I have always preferred mplayer becouse of it's few dependencies. Other than the dependencies and this html5 thing, I have never noticed any difference between the three.

Gstreamer had some difficulty with pulseaudio last time I tried. It flooded .xsession-errors until /home ran out of disk space. Didn't happen on my laptop which didn't use pulse. This was about... maybe around 6-12 months ago and was apparently a known issue. I switched to vlc and haven't tried since.

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#102 2011-12-22 15:31:39

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

Hello bash,

Thanks for the beta packages. I noticed that the new KSecretsService will be released with 4.8. It is a part of kdeutils group.
It is meant to replace KWallet and by default will be off for 4.8 but it can be enabled by the user.

I made a PKGBUILD for ksecrets 4.7.95 using the other kdeutils-* pkgbuilds:

# $Id$
# Maintainer: Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>

pkgname=kdeutils-ksecrets
pkgver=4.7.95
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc='Secrets Management Infrastructure for KDE'
url='http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Utils/ksecretsservice'
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
license=('GPL' 'LGPL' 'FDL')
depends=('kdebase-runtime')
makedepends=('cmake' 'automoc4')
groups=('kde' 'kdeutils')
install=${pkgname}.install
source=("http://download.kde.org/unstable/${pkgver}/src/ksecrets-${pkgver}.tar.bz2")
sha1sums=('5c9936a62b0592efcdd9966da84572f8ba7bb71f')

build() {
  cd "${srcdir}"
  mkdir build
  cd build
  cmake ../ksecrets-${pkgver} \
    -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release \
    -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
  make
}

package() {
  cd $srcdir/build
  make DESTDIR=$pkgdir install
}

kdeutils-ksecrets.install

post_install() {
    xdg-icon-resource forceupdate --theme hicolor &> /dev/null
    update-desktop-database -q
}

post_upgrade() {
    post_install
}

post_remove() {
    post_install
}

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#103 2011-12-22 23:02:48

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

@zephyr
Thanks for the PKGBUILD! I really appreciated it. (only s/kdebase-runtime/kdebase-workspace was needed wink
But I've one question, where did you read ksecrets is part of the kdeutils group? AFAIK is only a plugin for kdelibs.

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#104 2011-12-22 23:48:46

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

RC 1 is out:

http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.8-rc1.php

About KSecretsService, it's meant to replace KWallet, hence why it's in the kdeutils group ?


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#105 2011-12-23 01:54:34

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

bash wrote:

@zephyr
Thanks for the PKGBUILD! I really appreciated it. (only s/kdebase-runtime/kdebase-workspace was needed wink
But I've one question, where did you read ksecrets is part of the kdeutils group? AFAIK is only a plugin for kdelibs.

No problem!

It is under the kdeutils repo in git: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeutils/ksecrets

Initially [1] it had components in kdelibs and kde-runtime(ksecretsserviced) along with the utillities(ksecrets binary,secretsync and kio etc. ) in kdeutils/ksecrets.
Now everything should be in kdeutils/ksecrets because kdelibs is in feature freeze [2].

There was also a cyclic dependency issue between kdelibs and ksecrets [2] where you had to build kdelibs, then ksecrets and then rebuild kdelibs on top of that.
(Because libksecretservice should be in kdelibs 4.8 but kdelibs master is frozen due to frameworks development etc..)

I don't know if the cyclic dep issue still exists but looking at the RC1 tarballs, I guess it still does. I don't know if it will be fixed for 4.8 final.
Also kwallet makedepends on ksecrets if its features are required. I presume that if it is used as a build time dep then it is also a runtime dep.

[1] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel& … 931879&w=3
[2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kd … core/72760

When RC1 packages are out, I will check into it further.

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#106 2011-12-23 08:21:21

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

zephyr wrote:

There was also a cyclic dependency issue between kdelibs and ksecrets [2] where you had to build kdelibs, then ksecrets and then rebuild kdelibs on top of that.
(Because libksecretservice should be in kdelibs 4.8 but kdelibs master is frozen due to frameworks development etc..)

I don't know if the cyclic dep issue still exists but looking at the RC1 tarballs, I guess it still does. I don't know if it will be fixed for 4.8 final.

Luckily, ATM there's no code in kdelibs which uses KSecrets yet, then there's no cyclic dep ATM.

I'll name it kdeutils-ksecret, we could rename it in future.

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#107 2011-12-23 20:21:15

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

hi,  could someone please test if adding the veromix plasmoid in the system tray, panel or desktop crashes plasma?

edit: nevermind, i had an issue with python

Last edited by Box0 (2011-12-23 20:27:14)

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#108 2011-12-24 00:53:29

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

Works great. Upgraded from 4.7.4 to RC1 without issues. Everything works ok. If I find some bug/problem, I'll post it here.

Good job bash!

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#109 2011-12-24 08:41:50

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

In the new Ariya theme, why is there one wallpaper in the login screen, another in the loading screen, and then only the first one available as desktop wallpaper? Or am I doing something wrong?

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#110 2011-12-24 09:55:34

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

KlavKalashj wrote:

In the new Ariya theme, why is there one wallpaper in the login screen, another in the loading screen, and then only the first one available as desktop wallpaper? Or am I doing something wrong?

here too. i don't know if it is intended. BTW i'm using the new qml splash which has no background

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#111 2011-12-24 12:08:47

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

Did you install the kde-wallpapers package?

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#112 2011-12-24 12:19:34

Box0
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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

yep

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#113 2011-12-24 15:54:26

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

Box0 wrote:

hi,  could someone please test if adding the veromix plasmoid in the system tray, panel or desktop crashes plasma?

edit: nevermind, i had an issue with python

hi, I use veromix without problem because I still have problems to high cpu usage with kmix


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#114 2011-12-24 15:57:32

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

@desaparecido
about kmix, try removing kmix configurations files (~/.kde4/share/{apps,config}/kmix*)

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#115 2011-12-24 17:04:11

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

For me even Veromix didn't even solve the problem as with it my plasma-desktop consumed the same ammount of CPU as KMix did before. I tried removing KMix confugration files but that didn't help either. If there's something else I could try please tell me. Pulseaudio is essential for me so I can give up on that.

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#116 2011-12-24 17:33:04

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

bash wrote:

@desaparecido
about kmix, try removing kmix configurations files (~/.kde4/share/{apps,config}/kmix*)

sad nothing change, kmix still eat a lot of CPU sad


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#117 2011-12-24 22:42:34

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

Same here about KMix. Still unuseable and crashy.

Other than that, no issues so far, and I haven't seen plasma-desktop eat my CPU since Beta 2.


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#118 2011-12-25 13:07:07

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

I too am still “suffering” from the KMix CPU usage problem.
I use veromix for now, but it does not work as good as KMix and it is still a bit buggy…

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#119 2011-12-26 13:30:36

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

KDE SC 4.8 RC1 :
Login => no plasma

4.8 betas were working.

Panel and kwin work, but no icons on desktop

I'll try to get a stacktrace when I relogin.

EDIT :
no more crashing but when I try to edit the folder view :

Application: Outil de gestion de fenêtres Plasma (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7fc3433dc760 (LWP 2891))]

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fc320007700 (LWP 2893)):
#0  0x00007fc3409e3173 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007fc33d989d58 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007fc33d98a219 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007fc34202d0ff in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#4  0x00007fc341ffce92 in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#5  0x00007fc341ffd0e7 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#6  0x00007fc341efdd47 in QThread::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0x00007fc341fdccdf in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#8  0x00007fc341f00d6b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#9  0x00007fc341c6fdf0 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#10 0x00007fc3409eb3ed in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#11 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fc31d21f700 (LWP 2894)):
#0  0x00007fc3409e5223 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007fc341fdb181 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007fc341f00d6b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x00007fc341c6fdf0 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x00007fc3409eb3ed in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fc31c7e6700 (LWP 2896)):
#0  0x00007fc341c73b54 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fc33678abd2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtScript.so.4
#2  0x00007fc33678ac09 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtScript.so.4
#3  0x00007fc341c6fdf0 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x00007fc3409eb3ed in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7fc3433dc760 (LWP 2891)):
[KCrash Handler]
#6  0x00007fc3411656d8 in QAction::text() const () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#7  0x00007fc329a14e6d in ?? () from /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_folderview.so
#8  0x00007fc32f76d3bb in BackgroundDialog::BackgroundDialog(QSize const&, Plasma::Containment*, Plasma::View*, QWidget*, QString const&, KConfigSkeleton*) () from /usr/lib/libplasmagenericshell.so.4
#9  0x00007fc33006ee25 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#10 0x00007fc3300756e3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#11 0x00007fc342011f51 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0x00007fc3387bf652 in Plasma::Containment::configureRequested(Plasma::Containment*) () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#13 0x00007fc342011f51 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#14 0x00007fc3411663a2 in QAction::triggered(bool) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#15 0x00007fc34116658f in QAction::activate(QAction::ActionEvent) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#16 0x00007fc3415b42e9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#17 0x00007fc3415ba3f2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#18 0x00007fc342e861a0 in KMenu::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#19 0x00007fc3411bcf64 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x00007fc3415bb98b in QMenu::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#21 0x00007fc34116c854 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#22 0x00007fc341171fa3 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#23 0x00007fc342dc55a6 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#24 0x00007fc341ffe0ac in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#25 0x00007fc34116d822 in QApplicationPrivate::sendMouseEvent(QWidget*, QMouseEvent*, QWidget*, QWidget*, QWidget**, QPointer<QWidget>&, bool) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#26 0x00007fc3411ea231 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#27 0x00007fc3411e8a4a in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#28 0x00007fc341210292 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#29 0x00007fc33d98984d in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#30 0x00007fc33d98a048 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#31 0x00007fc33d98a219 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#32 0x00007fc34202d0ff in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#33 0x00007fc34120ff1e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#34 0x00007fc341ffce92 in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#35 0x00007fc341ffd0e7 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#36 0x00007fc3415b7d21 in QMenu::exec(QPoint const&, QAction*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#37 0x00007fc3387ca41f in Plasma::Containment::contextMenuEvent(QGraphicsSceneContextMenuEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3
#38 0x00007fc34174e065 in QGraphicsItem::sceneEvent(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#39 0x00007fc34177626e in QGraphicsScene::contextMenuEvent(QGraphicsSceneContextMenuEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#40 0x00007fc341785254 in QGraphicsScene::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#41 0x00007fc34116c854 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#42 0x00007fc3411716d3 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#43 0x00007fc342dc55a6 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#44 0x00007fc341ffe0ac in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#45 0x00007fc34179aecb in QGraphicsView::contextMenuEvent(QContextMenuEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#46 0x00007fc3411bccb4 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#47 0x00007fc341579396 in QFrame::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#48 0x00007fc3417a364b in QGraphicsView::viewportEvent(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#49 0x00007fc341ffe238 in QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendThroughObjectEventFilters(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#50 0x00007fc34116c81f in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#51 0x00007fc341171b8d in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#52 0x00007fc342dc55a6 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#53 0x00007fc341ffe0ac in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#54 0x00007fc3411e9be8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#55 0x00007fc3411e8a4a in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#56 0x00007fc341210292 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#57 0x00007fc33d98984d in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#58 0x00007fc33d98a048 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#59 0x00007fc33d98a219 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#60 0x00007fc34202d0ff in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#61 0x00007fc34120ff1e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#62 0x00007fc341ffce92 in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#63 0x00007fc341ffd0e7 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#64 0x00007fc342001c45 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#65 0x00007fc33005a9c3 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
#66 0x00000000004082f4 in _start ()

Looks like it may come from Qt...

EDIT 2 :
Bug has been already been reported : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289774

Last edited by maxi_jac (2011-12-26 14:37:38)

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#120 2011-12-27 14:13:33

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

Hi!

1. After upgrade from Beta to RC1 Icon-Only Task Manager stopped working. I've got only icon with red cross on panel and it's described as unrecognized element.
[SOLVED] It wasn't installed. There was a bug and I had to force install this addon.
2. Also after upgrade NM is no longer connecting to my home WiFi. Once signal is great, after moment there is no signal at all, then it connects, but I don't have internet, and it disconnets after few seconds. Once or twice it connected after 5 or 10 minutes of trying… Ethernet works fine. I'm installing all updated since RC1 was released. A few days ago after another update MN started working, but yesterday after another update it stopped working again… Now I'm on wired connection.
[Solved] Removing connection from NM and adding it again solved the problem.

Last edited by Druedain (2011-12-28 16:21:13)

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#121 2011-12-29 18:28:26

teekay
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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

arojas wrote:
Pyruzan wrote:

Oh, I forgot something, not sure if it was there before upgrading to 4.8 beta or not, but I get this trying to run digikam:

➜  ~  digikam                                          
digikam: error while loading shared libraries: libmarblewidget.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Anyone else having the same problem?

This happens in every major KDE update. You need to recompile digikam against marble 4.8

Unfortunately digikam will not compile against boost-1.48. I ended up compiling last boost-1.47 from packages.git, downgrading boost and then re-compiling digikam (upgraded to 2.4.1 while at it).

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#122 2011-12-30 23:00:19

adaptee
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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

The kmix probem has been fixed in trunk.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288675

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#123 2011-12-31 18:27:44

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

monshin wrote:

Works great. Upgraded from 4.7.4 to RC1 without issues

how?

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#124 2012-01-01 14:12:52

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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

1archgamenon2 wrote:
monshin wrote:

Works great. Upgraded from 4.7.4 to RC1 without issues

how?

Enable kde-unstable repo in pacman.conf

[kde-unstable]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

Update your system:

pacman -Syu

There you go!


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#125 2012-01-01 17:51:43

1archgamenon2
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Re: [kde-unstable] KDE 4.8

Thx homie! now...when do I have to erase the kde-unstable 'repo'?

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